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Model Forum / General / Rockets / September 2004[trolls] a sad life
I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product at all, especially from U.S. Rockets ona "bill on delivery basis". In other words pay after you receive and approve ONLY. We need condoms over our condoms over our condoms. </sarcasm> Jerry "I deal with with special education teenagers exhibiting emotional and behavioral problems all week at work. I don't have the energy or patience to deal with the same stuff here." - Gary Bolles "Jerry - feel free to come to my house for a beer anytime....any person who commands this much attention from a group has to be an OK guy." - anon  SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv Jerry what;s the big deal with bill on delivery? You keep talking about it & I just don't see it as a big deal. >I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to >protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >who commands this much attention from a group has to be an OK guy." >- anon > Jerry what;s the big deal with bill on delivery? You keep talking > about it & I just don't see it as a big deal. Well, with all the noise that's been spread about how "Jerry's products are all vaporware", perhaps he wants to provide a means of assurance that orders can be placed without having to "front him the money" if the rumors (whether true or false) have made potential customers nervous about doing that... at least that's how I read it. YMMV. -dave w Dave W. wrote: << Well, with all the noise that's been spread about how "Jerry's products are all vaporware", perhaps he wants to provide a means of assurance that orders can be placed without having to "front him the money" if the rumors (whether true or false) have made potential customers nervous about doing that... at least that's how I read it. >> I said the same thing on TRF, and Jerry called me a troll and said my comment was "FUD". Let's see if he does the same to you. Didn't you testify that there is no such company as U.S. Rockets? SignatureChristopher Brian Deem NAR 12308 TRA 2256 Level II > I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to > protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > who commands this much attention from a group has to be an OK guy." > - anon > Didn't you testify that there is no such company as U.S. Rockets? Does it really matter if "US Rockets" is a "company" rather than a "product line"? Explain and defend your answer. -dave w > > Didn't you testify that there is no such company as U.S. Rockets? > > Does it really matter if "US Rockets" is > a "company" rather than a "product line"? > > Explain and defend your answer. Don't do it! He'll suck you into an inane conversation then start throwing 'calculations' at you!!! You've been warned!!! No. SignatureChristopher Brian Deem NAR 12308 TRA 2256 Level II > > > > Didn't you testify that there is no such company as U.S. Rockets? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -dave w > No. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > -dave w How unsurprising :) SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv > > No. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > -- > Jerry Who was fined $40 gran? Explain and defend..(;-) > > > No. > > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Who was fined $40 gran? Explain and defend..(;-) Dave W: > The only evidence I've seen of any such communication > is allegations made by Phil Stein (and previously by [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > (Is that what you meant when you said that you were expendable > but this could be an opportunity for someone?) Note I have an answer. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv Dave W. asked: << Does it really matter if "US Rockets" is a "company" rather than a "product line"? Explain and defend your answer. >> We've been through this before, Dave. If it's just a "product line", who owns it? > Dave W. asked: > << Does it really matter if "US Rockets" is a "company" rather than a "product [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > We've been through this before, Dave. If it's just a "product line", who owns > it? And if it's just a product line, who do I ask to send me a few kits on a "pay after shipment" basis? Dave? steve > I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to > protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jerry "BIG FINE" Irvine Did DOT finally make a believer out of you?? > > I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to > > protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Did DOT finally make a believer out of you?? Yes. Non Hazmat products rule and protect against wild allegations even --with-- in-hand paperwork and lab tests. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv >> > Jerry "BIG FINE" Irvine >> >> Did DOT finally make a believer out of you?? > >Yes. Non Hazmat products rule and protect against wild allegations even >--with-- in-hand paperwork and lab tests. Jerry - I have to ask you this - Why do you keep saying you have in hand paperwork and lab tests when you were told by DOT that the ones you have are no longer valid? Saying you have them after you were told they are invalid, makes you look like a liar. > Why do you keep saying you have in hand paperwork and lab tests when > you were told by DOT that the ones you have are no longer valid? Can you cite the communication from DOT where he was "told" that the existing classification was "no longer valid" - you keep alleging the existence of such a communication, but have yet to show us a copy of it. -dave w > > Why do you keep saying you have in hand paperwork and lab tests when > > you were told by DOT that the ones you have are no longer valid? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -dave w Or me. Or DOT me. Or anybody me. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv > > > Why do you keep saying you have in hand paperwork and lab tests when > > > you were told by DOT that the ones you have are no longer valid? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Or anybody me. The only evidence I've seen of any such communication is allegations made by Phil Stein (and previously by "Dave Grayvis"). Is DOT supposed to have told you that the stuff that "fell out the bottom" of class 1 testing (unless larger than a stated minimum size) had suddenly turned back into "New Explosives" all over again after all? --- --- --- One of the several things in the DOT "action" that seemed just a little odd - how does someone have to "transfer ownership interest" etc. etc. on something being "not even explosive" (as distinct from a situation involving something that _was_ an "officially classified explosive")? I mean it's like you go down to the DMV and they tell you "we don't sell license plates for bicycles, you don't need one" - and then they turn around and bust you for "operating an Unlicensed Vehicle" because you didn't file a change of address, properly transfer the ownership, etc., etc., on the act of "not-needing-a-license-plate"! All I can say (expand the metaphor to all the hoops that DOT claimed you didn't jump through but should have) is, if they're gonna be that way about it, they damn well better sell me a license plate for my bicycle or it could leave a big hole in their ability to make the sh.t stick to you. (Is that what you meant when you said that you were expendable but this could be an opportunity for someone?) -dave w > > > > Why do you keep saying you have in hand paperwork and lab tests when > > > > you were told by DOT that the ones you have are no longer valid? [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > -dave w Yep. I was right. I proved to be expendable :) See Jerry **IS** always right!! SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv Dave W. wrote: << The only evidence I've seen of any such communication is allegations made by Phil Stein (and previously by "Dave Grayvis"). >> Wow, you've really got a short memory, Dave. The link to the document was posted here not very long ago. Do a google search, I'm sure you can find it again if you actually try. >>>>Jerry "BIG FINE" Irvine >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Saying you have them after you were told they are invalid, makes you > look like a liar. Or an Idiot. > > > I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to > > > protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Jerry You really don't understand and that is what I really don't understand. Jerry Irvine wrote: << I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any produc at all, especially from U.S. Rockets on a "bill on delivery basis". In other words pay after you receive and approve ONLY. >> Just for the record, I don't have a problem with folks buying your kits, especially on a C.O.D basis. (If it _wasn't_ C.O.D., then I yes I would warn against it.) When I used to buy motors from you, I always paid cash on delivery, and never got ripped off. > Jerry Irvine wrote: > << I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to protect [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > When I used to buy motors from you, I always paid cash on delivery, and never > got ripped off. If you had nothing but positive experiences, why all the bad karma? Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv > I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to > protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > who commands this much attention from a group has to be an OK guy." > - anon I find it interesting, and instructive, that you include that quote in this particular message. It was originally meant to include YOU as much as anyone else. SignatureGary Bolles summum jus, summa injuria est To contact me; bollesg at comcast dot net http://home.comcast.net/~bollesg/rockets/rockets.html Help make r.m.r. a No Flame Zone > > I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to > > protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > this particular message. It was originally meant to include YOU as much > as anyone else. Ironic, eh? But at least you and I can have a real debate about it. I do not feel compelled to attack you personally for being so bold as to bring up the subject! Jerry "A very small number of trolls post repetitive "responses" to my posts, often three to five trolls per post. I am posting sense. Trolls are posting nonsense." - Jerry Irvine SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv Hello Richard, See what I am talking about now?! Until Irvine's heart stops beating and his lungs no longer take in breath, this is the bullshit that this newsgroup is founded upon. Basically, rec.models.rockets has been for the last 4-5 years: wreck.us.rockets . Most Born Again Rocketeers are "long in the tooth". They are in their 50s and 60s. They only have another 15 - 30 years left alive and a good percentage of them will lose their ability to type due to malfiesence, parkansins, alzhiemer, and other "old age" afflictions. So if you can wait another 2-3 decades, Irivine, Bundick, Kaplow ... all of the people who make this newsgroup so useless, will be gone for ever ... thank God! So if you and I are still around, this will hopefully be a much better place :) Good luck to us both! P.s. I wonded if Irvine has made a pack with Satan and plans to HAUNT rec.models.rockets once his body starts to rot? The Ghost in the Machine ... > I am just glad we have sufficient trolls slinging sufficient mud to > protect the buying public from "making a mistake" by buying any product [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > who commands this much attention from a group has to be an OK guy." > - anon > P.s. I wonded if Irvine has made a pack with Satan and plans to HAUNT > rec.models.rockets once his body starts to rot? The Ghost in the > Machine ... I don't know about that, but I'm fairly certain his brain has been festering for many, many years. >Until Irvine's heart stops beating >and his lungs no longer take in breath, this is the bullshit that this >newsgroup is founded upon This should be in the Jerry FAQs. |
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