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Model Forum / General / Rockets / November 2004Airframe material
I need a section of air frame in 2.56'' x 24'' for a project but i want ether carbon fiber or fiberglass (fillament)...but i'm lost ot know where to begin on trying to find ether..don't care if it's states side or in the uk or where but is neeeded asap http://hawkmountain.blastzone.com/ http://www.performancerocketry.com > http://hawkmountain.blastzone.com/ Hi, I have brought fiberglass cloth from www.publicmissiles.com before for a reasonable price. They sell 6oz to 10oz, along with pre glassed airframes in both fiberglass and carbon. I have brougt carbon form carb.com. They are located in Hawwii I believe, so it may take awhile to get your order. Hawk mountain sells pre made, all composite tubing. They are EXTREAMLY strong, but somewhat pricy. If you want to make your own composite tubes,you should check out http://www.shadowaero.com/. They sell a 3 tape video set to get you started in composites for $75. They are located in California. If you are on a tight budget, I would suggest making your own tubes, because it is a lot cheaper. PML sell glassed tubes for about $100 for a 4" tube. If you wrap it your self, you could make 3 or 4 tubes for the same price. Good luck with your project, Tom Sak NAR# 82966 >> http://hawkmountain.blastzone.com/ >Hi, >I have brought fiberglass cloth from www.publicmissiles.com before for >a reasonable price. They sell 6oz to 10oz, along with pre glassed >airframes in both fiberglass and carbon. I have brougt carbon form >carb.com. They are located in Hawwii I believe, so it may take awhile >to get your order. PML is located in Michigan. There are a lot better/cheaper places to get fiberglass cloth than PML. Try a sailboat store for fiberglass cloth. If they don't sell it, ask where to buy it locally. We have a store here in Minneapolis that does nothing but sell fiberglass/kevlar/carbon fiber cloth, epoxy, and other composite supplies. Brian Elfert > We have a store here in Minneapolis that does nothing but sell > fiberglass/kevlar/carbon fiber cloth, epoxy, and other composite supplies. > > Brian Elfert Who's that??? >> We have a store here in Minneapolis that does nothing but sell >> fiberglass/kevlar/carbon fiber cloth, epoxy, and other composite supplies. >> >> Brian Elfert >Who's that??? Express Composites in Northeast Minneapolis. Web site is www.expresscomposites.com. The address on the website is old, so you have to call them for the address. Brian Elfert Thank you all for your replys. The motors i shall be using will be 5 estes D's and E's, also 1 D and E to 7 A's to C's, 3 Estes D's or E's and now possibley a 29M MMT. I want to convert the kit to do dual but not sure how with 24'' long BT to play with and im going to use my Gwiz LC delux. I was wandering how heavy the the stuff is form Hawk...$11.80 per foot and i only 2 feet and it's coming to the uk. I do have a LOC BT ready to use currently and have thought about using aero sleav on that. Peeling off as much of the tube as i can so it's still the perfect dia (you know what i mean where you don't get a bigger dia where it join at the nose cone due tothe laying up....ie so it would be glassed, carbon or carbo kevilar but just same dia as std tube) but would i have to glass on top of the carbo or carbon kevilar stuff?? I did work out what power i'd get from 5 E9's but have lost it...but for 5 D's i'll ge t:- Total Newtons 85Newtons-Seconds Total Pounds of Thrust 19.101123595505616 LBS Size of Combined Motors 53.125% of a G Motor Oh by the way the rocket in question is a Phonex Rockety Might Kat. Yep i'm modding her a lot. So i think for a small 2.56'' x 31'' oddd long rocket it should go some on 5 D's let alon a 3 second bun on 5 E9's. If i am to glass it will be my first time/ I'd rather have it done for me and everything. All ya help is vital here and any tips on fitting dual deployment will be needed. Pete If you are only at 54% of a G you DO NOT need Carbon fiber or Fiberglass. Plain old loc tubing is fine for mid power stuff.. You don' need to worry about Carbon or Glass until you start using J sized motors and up. OK maybe of you are considering Minimum diameter 38mm motor mount. But for Estes engines use paper!  SignatureJames Dean Cory TRA # L2 DrDiff952@msn.com > Thank you all for your replys. > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Pete > If you are only at 54% of a G you DO NOT need Carbon fiber or Fiberglass. > Plain old loc tubing is fine for mid power stuff.. You don' need to worry > about Carbon or Glass until you start using J sized motors and up. OK > maybe > of you are considering Minimum diameter 38mm motor mount. But for Estes > engines use paper! Most of Ady Waters' entries in the UKRA altitude table were set with unglassed, lightly built rockets made from LOC tubing, flying on everything up the 'old' Pro38 J360... Perhaps if you're using Estes-type tubing a wrap of light glass would make the rocket more resistant to landing and transportation damage. Niall >We have a store here in Minneapolis that does nothing but sell >fiberglass/kevlar/carbon fiber cloth, epoxy, and other composite supplies. And the name of that store is? ... Glen >>We have a store here in Minneapolis that does nothing but sell >>fiberglass/kevlar/carbon fiber cloth, epoxy, and other composite supplies. > > And the name of that store is? ... > > Glen Yeah Brian, and the location too! Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75 |
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