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default - 30 Nov 2004 16:01 GMT

In the words of one DOT official..., "Mr.
Irvine's violations and subsequent violation penalties may well
hurt/prevent any chance or possibility of relaxing DOT hazmat shipping
regulations, especially where HPR motors are concerned".

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Jerry Irvine - 30 Nov 2004 17:15 GMT

> In the words of one DOT official..., "Mr.
> Irvine's violations and subsequent violation penalties may well
> hurt/prevent any chance or possibility of relaxing DOT hazmat shipping
> regulations, especially where HPR motors are concerned".
>
> Thanks Jerry

All that from a single shipment and one DOT itself says is the very
first violation of a shipper? Wow, the power!

I suspect the chatting in the DOT ear by Fred Wallace during the entire
timeframe and admitedly continuing today, has nothing to do with forming
opinion at DOT? Hmmm?

Jerry

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Dave Grayvis - 30 Nov 2004 17:57 GMT

>>In the words of one DOT official..., "Mr.
>>Irvine's violations and subsequent violation penalties may well
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> All that from a single shipment and one DOT itself says is the very
> first violation of a shipper? Wow, the power!

The DOT did not say that. That was your claim to the DOT.

> I suspect the chatting in the DOT ear by Fred Wallace during the entire
> timeframe and admitedly continuing today, has nothing to do with forming
> opinion at DOT? Hmmm?
>
> Jerry

jerry, If you had legal paperwork, why did you intentionally and
illegally mislabel untested HAZMAT, as "model airplane parts" instead of
using some of those "fifty or so" EX numbers you used to boast about?

How did Fred's communications to the DOT, force you to illegally and
intentionally ship a two hundred pound load of HAZMAT?

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default - 30 Nov 2004 19:50 GMT

I know, we'll play a new game, okay, Jerry? Since you never answer direct
questions with direct answers*, (because you're trolling) I'll answer the
questions, and you then choose which answer fits best for you today.

> jerry, If you had legal paperwork, why did you intentionally and
> illegally mislabel untested HAZMAT, as "model airplane parts" instead of
> using some of those "fifty or so" EX numbers you used to boast about?

"Because even I didn't believe my lies about having valid papers"
"Another employee of the company with less than two employees had the papers"
"I needed _fifty one_ numbers to complete the mosaic"
"The dog ate my paperwork"
"doh!"
"I was trying to avoid scrutiny by a Federal Agency who could fine my a.s big
time if they found out I was shipping what they considered to be an explosive
compound."

> How did Fred's communications to the DOT, force you to illegally and
> intentionally ship a two hundred pound load of HAZMAT?

"Fred told me to "ship away", he'd take care of the trivial details"
"HAZMAT! I thought it was door mats!"
"Heh heh, two hundred pounds, gives me the sniffles just thinking about it. Oh,
wrong controlled substance"
"I thought Fred was going to smooth things over with the DOT, you know, schmooze
them. Instead he told the truth!!"

Go ahead Jerry, pick your answers. Or, if'n you can't come to it, let Jerr
Junior have a stab at it.

all in fun,
steve

*Jerryspeak - The opposite of being forthright.

"forthright" The admirable quality in people when they tell the truth so it is
understood as the truth.

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Jerry Irvine - 30 Nov 2004 20:52 GMT

> "HAZMAT! I thought it was door mats!"

> "I thought Fred was going to smooth things over with the DOT, you know,
> schmooze
> them. Instead he speculated!!"
>
> Go ahead Jerry, pick your answers.

> all in fun,
> steve

"I apologize Jerry. You are correct as usual.. "
- Fred Wallace

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-Steve Bloom

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setup will now search for previously installed versions of intelligence.
setup is unable to find any form of intelligence in your skull.
please clean out the stuff between your ears and run setup again."
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