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Model Forum / General / Rockets / May 2005Be nice to Jerry thread
Folks, Given all the love and compassion we have for Jerry I thought what a neat idea to just start a thread where we can focus all that kindness, love and affection I know we all have for this poor man. I mean to be burdened with such serious and terminal afflictions, it has surely taken a toll on his sanity and as we were all taught one must be kind to those less fortunate amongst us. So please feel free to add to this thread your outpourings so poor Jerry knows not every one in the world hates him and he doesn't need to go eat worms. Insincerely David ps: Jerry remember a Lithium a day keeps the men in white coats (not to mention the monsters) away > Folks, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > ps: Jerry remember a Lithium a day keeps the men in white coats (not to > mention the monsters) away Yes, but a shipment of class 1 hazmat, in any form, "labeled as model airplane parts", will not keep the DOT away..(:-))) I don't know but some here would like to donate a full length dinner coat to Jerry ( the kind with the buckles in the back) from the Bellview Limited collection via their Camarillo outlet store. > Folks, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > ps: Jerry remember a Lithium a day keeps the men in white coats (not to > mention the monsters) away Or maybe David can find a better use of his time. It would be nice to keep this thread to rockets! >I don't know but some here would like to donate a full length dinner coat >to Jerry ( the kind with the buckles in the back) from the Bellview Limited [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> ps: Jerry remember a Lithium a day keeps the men in white coats (not to >> mention the monsters) away > Or maybe David can find a better use of his time. Highly unlikely. > It would be nice to keep > this thread to rockets!  SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 But this is a "be nice to Jerry thread"; not a rocket thread. As Jerry is so fond of saying, "try to stay on topic".. (:-) > Or maybe David can find a better use of his time. It would be nice to keep > this thread to rockets! > "nitram578" <nitram578@charter.net> wrote in message > >SNIPPED>> I'm not exadurating when I say Jerry must spend 100 times more time here than David. Besides Jerry has a bash me sign on his back. 8-) >Or maybe David can find a better use of his time. It would be nice to keep >this thread to rockets! [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>> ps: Jerry remember a Lithium a day keeps the men in white coats (not to >>> mention the monsters) away >I'm not exadurating when I say Jerry must spend 100 times more time >here than David. You got it wrong Phil, that was a gross under estimate, he spends many orders of magnitude more time in RMR than I do we all know the stats. >Besides Jerry has a bash me sign on his back. Now this thread is about extended the hand of kindness and understanding to the poor man, after all he is very very sick and the government would appear to have been deficient in taking him into care. Regards David >>I'm not exadurating when I say Jerry must spend 100 times more time >>here than David. > >You got it wrong Phil, that was a gross under estimate, he spends many >orders of magnitude more time in RMR than I do we all know the stats. I know but I didn't want to appear to be grossly exadurating. >>Besides Jerry has a bash me sign on his back. > >Now this thread is about extended the hand of kindness and >understanding to the poor man, after all he is very very sick and the >government would appear to have been deficient in taking him into care. I really do feel for Jerry and his type. Here in the states, almost all the state run institutions have been closed. They still institutionalize the criminally insane but Jerry hasn't reached that point yet. >Regards > >David Poor Jerry >>>I'm not exadurating when I say Jerry must spend 100 times more time >>>here than David. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > institutionalize the criminally insane but Jerry hasn't reached that > point yet. Phil, are you saying jerry is not insane? >>>>I'm not exadurating when I say Jerry must spend 100 times more time >>>>here than David. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Phil, are you saying jerry is not insane? Criminally insane mostly refers to violent criminals and some repeat offenders - Jerry's behavior is to inconsistent to fall into that category. > You got it wrong Phil, that was a gross under estimate, he spends many > orders of magnitude more time in RMR than I do we all know the stats. When you are here, THIS is what you do with your time and energy. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 >When you are here, THIS is what you do with your time and energy Oh you mean correcting your ill informed advice about Australian legislation as it relates to rocketry is a bad thing. Or encouraging folks to be nice to you in light of your handicaps, or are you asking that I should abuse you? wow you are in a far more serious situation than I could have imagined. Remember Jerry, we really are here to help you its all a mater of perspective David > >When you are here, THIS is what you do with your time and energy > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > David When you are here, THIS is what you do with your time and energy SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 >Oh you mean correcting your ill informed advice about Australian >legislation as it relates to rocketry is a bad thing. This is why we should all be nice to Jerry. He is doing for you what he does for us (in the US.) He just a giving kind of guy. 8-) >He just a giving kind of guy. 8-) Yeah he is such a giving kinda person, just like Typhoid Mary, they just go on giving and giving and giving. And when you try to help them they become so irrational.. Poor Jerry.. David >>You got it wrong Phil, that was a gross under estimate, he spends many >>orders of magnitude more time in RMR than I do we all know the stats. > > When you are here, THIS is what you do with your time and energy. > > Jerry Poor criminally insane jerry. > I'm not exadurating when I say Jerry must spend 100 times more time > here than David. Besides Jerry has a bash me sign on his back. 8-) Wow. Learn to spell, Phil. >> I'm not exadurating when I say Jerry must spend 100 times more time >> here than David. Besides Jerry has a bash me sign on his back. 8-) > >Wow. > >Learn to spell, Phil. OOPs. That was a test - I just wanted to see if anyone would notice. 8-) >Or maybe David can find a better use of his time. It would be nice to keep this thread to rockets! Yes and you could simply walk past the poor man lying in the street without extending a helping hand. For me the small amount of time it takes is rewarded by that warm inner glow that I have done humanity a service in being kind to one less fortunate than myself. I mean really the government should have taken him into their care and placing him with others of his persuasion for a few years, rather than leaving him destitute and out on the streets where he will no doubt be tempted into more harm. Regards David Who gives a rat's a.s? >Who gives a rat's a.s? If I had one, I'd donate it to Jerry - (only if I could watch him eat it.) 8-) Bill looks like we're having an air show this weekend. You going? > Bill looks like we're having an air show this weekend. You going? I can't make the show. I work close to Willow Grove and have been watching the Blue Angels practice for the last few days. WOW! Awesome! Bill Sullivan "Well, if you're going to *have* delusions, you may as well go for the really *satisfying* ones." -- Marcus Cole > Who gives a rat's a.s? Phil Stein Fred Wallace Ray Dunakin Dave Grayvis This is their purpose in life. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 >> Who gives a rat's a.s? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >This is their purpose in life. Poor Jerry > >> Who gives a rat's a.s? > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Poor Jerry See? SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 I suspect a tongue in cheek troll to generate personal epithets or a flame war? Not to insult anyone but I do enjoy reading all views on an issue even if I do not agree with it. The repartie can be very entertaining although the personal epithets get old sometimes. Glue sniffing, really. Can't you come up with something new? I suspect Mr. Irvine desires that we all be allowed to enjoy this great hobby without interference. He would have to speak for himself on this point but I bet he would agree that my inference is valid as far as he is concerned. As far as certain legal situations are concerned I only have one observation based on incomplete information. Uncle (ie. Uncle Sam, nee' "The Government") doesn't like to be lied to. Now I do believe that APCP propellant is relatively safe and if someone wants to keep it in their house, heck that is the best place for it. Most folks don't want their house burning down and take appropriate precautions. Look at the insurance industry. Try to get insurance on an empty house and you will pay more than if you live in it. They like the homes occupied. Do there need to be limits? Sure, but not the totalitarian controls that will kill the hobby if the government wins the "lawsuit". The major rocketry groups can review what is in place already and make changes if need be. Personally, I see no need for an LEUP for rocketry. Yes I know the law says you need it if you are at a certain level but I do not think that is right. I bought a kit from USR asked some general questions about some topics and Jerry gave me some very nice pointers. I believe I had a very nice experience. If I'm successful I feel inclined to share the event by email/jpegs as many rocketry purveyors seem inclined to take satisfaction at their customers triumphs. Also may lead to repeat business.:) Perhaps I would feel different if I was personally involved in some of the situations alluded to here about certain alleged events but this is the way I see it after 9 months of involvement with rocketry again. Let the flames begin! Kurt Savegnago > I suspect a tongue in cheek troll to generate personal epithets > or a flame war? > I suspect Mr. Irvine desires that we all be allowed to enjoy this great > hobby without interference. Then jerry should sit down an hush, especially his bad mouthing of certain individuals and organizations, as what good information he may share on occasion is more often than not drownded out by the bad mouthing. > As far as certain legal situations are concerned I only have one > observation based on incomplete information. Uncle (ie. Uncle Sam, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Yes I know the law says you need it if you are at a certain level but I > do not think that is right. Most of us agree with what you say in principle, but unlike Jerry, we choose not to "live the life stile", as Jerry claims or alleges he does.. (:-) Your correct about uncle and not liking to be lied to; Jerry obviously didn't understand.. > I bought a kit from USR asked some general questions about some topics > and Jerry gave me some very nice pointers. I believe I had a very nice > experience. If I'm successful I feel inclined to share the event by > email/jpegs as many rocketry purveyors seem inclined to take > satisfaction at their customers triumphs. Also may lead to repeat > business.:) Understand about the kits; just happen to have a couple of them myself, even a 6" Stub: modifies it with a 75mm motor mount and added a 24" upper section and payload section for two stage deployment. No doubt the rocket will be a great performer when I get around to launching it. Gota make sure Phil is there, so he can do a review for HPR..(:-) > Perhaps I would feel different if I was personally involved in some of > the situations alluded to here about certain alleged events but this is > the way I see it after 9 months of involvement with rocketry again. I would say, Jerry's involvement with those "certain alleged events" especially DOT, is a bit more than just alleged.. (;-) > Let the flames begin! > Kurt Savegnago No flames, Fred >Understand about the kits; just happen to have a couple of them myself, >even a 6" Stub: modifies it with a 75mm motor mount and added a 24" >upper section and payload section for two stage deployment. No doubt the >rocket will be a great performer when I get around to launching it. Gota >make sure Phil is there, so he can do a review for HPR..(:-) You're giving Jerry to much credit. All you did was reuse SOME of the parts in his kit. HPR is one area where Jerry and I agree on quite a few things. Anyone care to guess how many issues of HPR have shipped so far this year? - Not you Fred, David or Kevin. Clue - there are two working days left in May. >Anyone care to guess how many issues of HPR have shipped so far this >year? - Not you Fred, David or Kevin. Clue - there are two working >days left in May. One? - Rick "Eternal Optimist" Dickinson Signature"I've always been taught that if you code an arbitrary limit, try to make it a power of two, or at least avoid powers of ten, so people think there's a good technical reason for it." -- Good advice from Peter Corlett >>Anyone care to guess how many issues of HPR have shipped so far this >>year? - Not you Fred, David or Kevin. Clue - there are two working [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - Rick "Eternal Optimist" Dickinson To put it in Jerry Speak - less that two. I love that one. Jerry tells DOT that he works for a company that employs 'less than two people.' > although the personal epithets get old sometimes. Glue sniffing, > really. Can't you come up with something new? No he cannot. > I suspect Mr. Irvine desires that we all be allowed to enjoy this great > hobby without interference. Correct. And I have walked the walk. > As far as certain legal situations are concerned I only have one > observation based on incomplete information. Uncle (ie. Uncle Sam, > nee' "The Government") doesn't like to be lied to. But they have no compunction whatsoever about doing the lying. > Do there need to be limits? No. > major rocketry groups can review what is in place already and make > changes if need be. But cannot simply use existing exemptions. Or make changes with REDUCTIONS in access controls on a "known safe" activity. > I bought a kit from USR asked some general questions about some topics > and Jerry gave me some very nice pointers. I believe I had a very nice [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Let the flames begin! > Kurt Savegnago Point. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 Kurt, Pleased to see your happy with the kit you received, and I do wish you the very best with your flying attempts. Unfortunatly I once thought as you do, that all this cannot be true, but alas as soon as I joined a particular rocketry club, he got all irrational. I guess to most folks Jeffery Dahmer was just your average nice guy, right up to the point they opened the freezer and found that a leg roast took on a new meaning. > Kurt, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > right up to the point they opened the freezer and found that a leg > roast took on a new meaning. Cripes, I didn't want to promote a firefight. Just tolerate different points of views and if one disagrees,fine. We can all get together for drinks later on like all the mother-f__k'in lawyers and rant and rave about how we lost this case and that case BUT still made a bunch of money off of the stupid assed CLIENT. AKS > BUT still made a bunch of money off of > the stupid assed CLIENT. That's what Teeling's lawyer said :) SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 >>BUT still made a bunch of money off of >>the stupid assed CLIENT. > > That's what Teeling's lawyer said :) yes, He was quoting your lawyer. :| When are you going to pay up on your fraud judgment? When are you going to pay that hefty (and still growing) DOT fine? When are you going to pay back all that child support you owe. >So please feel free to add to this thread your outpourings so poor >Jerry knows not every one in the world hates him and he doesn't need to >go eat worms. Um, gosh, I can't think of what to write. >>So please feel free to add to this thread your outpourings so poor >>Jerry knows not every one in the world hates him and he doesn't need to >>go eat worms. > >Um, gosh, I can't think of what to write. Yeah. There are so many possibilities. 8-) > Folks, rmr is what YOU make it. Don't suppose you've heard of filters? All I see in the message list is about 6 replys by you,.. and now, not any more,... I actually commend Jerry for donating so much to the rocketry fund and I challange anyone to match that. > Folks, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > ps: Jerry remember a Lithium a day keeps the men in white coats (not to > mention the monsters) away > I actually commend Jerry for donating so much to the rocketry fund and I > challange anyone to match that. Impossible for a troll. Any of many. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 >> I actually commend Jerry for donating so much to the rocketry fund and I >>challange anyone to match that. > > Impossible for a troll. > > Any of many. I think anyone who is serious about the hobby should contribute to the legal fund either directly or through the Save Rocketry fund. Might even win something in the S.R. raffle. I am proud to say I have donated to a major rocketry group to the legal fund and also through the S.R. raffle. If I don't win anything that is absolutely fine with me. If we win the lawsuit to get the BATF off of our backs that will be satisfaction enough for me. If we don't win, won't matter as the hobby will become so regulated that I probably will have to give it up. Come on, an LEUP requirement just to have some low current igniters? Sheeee_____t! a terrorist bast__d will just use a bigger battery in their bomb!!! Makes no sense whatsoever to me. To the idiot who suggested that one of our fine altimeter/dual deployment (R) devices could be used for an airliner bomb I hope you die a thousand deaths. First off, they all detect acceleration and would never even arm in the belly of an airplane. Second off, if there was a perverse enough engineer out there who wanted to design a destructive device, they would only have to go to Mouser or Digikey to purchase the parts they would need. Thirdly, the sniffers at the airports are getting better in the detection of such explosives. Kurt Savegnago I think that is so dumb too, its not like they are blasting caps. I have allways made my own igniters, but I am sure if the leo's found them I would be labled a terrorist and procecuted. When there are too many laws everyone becomes a criminal!!! > I think anyone who is serious about the hobby should contribute to the > legal fund either directly or through the Save Rocketry fund. Might [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Kurt Savegnago > When there are too many laws everyone > becomes a criminal!!! Welcome to the machine. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 |
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