Deaths of key people involved with the Apollo program
Hoax believers allege that the deaths of 10 astronauts and others
related to the program were part of a cover-up, and that NASA or other
U.S. government agencies were disposing of people who they feared would
'blow the whistle'. However, given that many tens (or hundreds) of
thousands of individuals, often with US Air Force-related careers, were
involved in the Apollo program, it is perhaps unsurprising that some
individuals have died in the intervening decades.
* Ed Givens (car accident)
* Ted Freeman (T-38 crash)
* C. C. Williams (T-38 accident)
* Elliott See and Charlie Bassett (T-38 accident)
* Virgil "Gus" Grissom (supposedly an outspoken critic of the Space
Program) (Apollo 1 fire)
* Ed White (Apollo 1 fire)
* Roger Chaffee (Apollo 1 fire)
* X-15 pilot Mike Adams (the only X-15 pilot killed during the X-15
flight test program - not a NASA astronaut, but had flown X-15 above 50
miles).
* Robert Lawrence, scheduled to be an Air Force Manned Orbiting
Laboratory pilot who died in a jet crash shortly after reporting for
duty to that (later cancelled) program.
* NASA worker Thomas Baron (claimed to be a coverup of a 500 page
report on the Apollo 1 accident).
* Lee Gelvani claims to have almost convinced James Irwin, an
Apollo 15 astronaut whom Gelvani referred to as an "informant", to
confess about a cover-up having occurred. Irwin was supposedly going to
ring Kaysing about it; however he died of a heart attack before any
such telephone call occurred.
The landing believers point out that spacecraft testing and flying high
performance jet aircraft can be dangerous, and that all but one of the
astronaut deaths (Irwin's) were directly related to their rather
hazardous job. The hoax believers include two non-astronauts in their
collection of 10 'astronauts' - (Mike Adams was only considered an
astronaut because he had flown the X-15 above 50 miles altitude, but
was not associated otherwise with manned spaceflight. Robert Lawrence
died in a jet crash shortly before reporting to the Air Forces Manned
Orbiting Laboratory program, not NASA's space program). Astronaut James
Irwin had suffered several heart attacks in the years prior to his
death. Gelvani's claim that Irwin was about to come forward would be
difficult to confirm and must be considered as hearsay.
James L. Marino - 30 May 2005 12:17 GMT
Are you on dope? Quit posting this crap here, you dolt. If you're on
dope, seek help. If you're not on dope, try some. It might help.
> Deaths of key people involved with the Apollo program
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> death. Gelvani's claim that Irwin was about to come forward would be
> difficult to confirm and must be considered as hearsay.
Mike - 30 May 2005 14:55 GMT
There was a guy just like you, telling us that the government was after him
because he was devulging secrets about weapons that can kill a person like a
heart attack, and every car has a device that can emit microwaves and kill
you. I havent seen him in a while, and soon it will be the same for you.
MIB
> Are you on dope? Quit posting this crap here, you dolt. If you're on
> dope, seek help. If you're not on dope, try some. It might help.
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> > death. Gelvani's claim that Irwin was about to come forward would be
> > difficult to confirm and must be considered as hearsay.
Tad Danley - 30 May 2005 17:12 GMT
> There was a guy just like you, telling us that the government was after him
> because he was devulging secrets about weapons that can kill a person like a
> heart attack, and every car has a device that can emit microwaves and kill
> you. I havent seen him in a while, and soon it will be the same for you.
>
> MIB
I guess he got tired of everyone on sci.space.history ignoring him ...

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Greg Heilers - 30 May 2005 20:15 GMT
>> There was a guy just like you, telling us that the government was after
>> him because he was devulging secrets about weapons that can kill a person
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> I guess he got tired of everyone on sci.space.history ignoring him ...
That just got me thinking? Are there many "Art Bell" groups? Imagine what
*those* groups must be like!...lol

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Greg Heilers - 30 May 2005 13:13 GMT
> Deaths of key people involved with the Apollo program
But this is *nothing* compared to the government's past involvement with
carrots. It has undoubtedly been covered up; but there most certainly
was something "fishy" going on, in the late 19th century. Just by
perusing documents easily obtained under the "Freedom of Information Act";
it has been proven, that of the people who ate carrots, between the years
1850 and 1880.....that 100% of them are now DEAD!!!

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randyolb@charter.net - 30 May 2005 16:28 GMT
Rod Serling on
In our sequel, the paranoid man is expanding his theory and fears, as he
tries to discredit the greatest achievement of mankind... completely unaware
that he is in fact, typing from, the MORON ZONE!
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Der_Red_Max@yahoo.com - 30 May 2005 23:59 GMT
> Deaths of key people involved with the Apollo program
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> ring Kaysing about it; however he died of a heart attack before any
> such telephone call occurred.
And don't forget the Challenger & Columbia crews, OH! and yeah, most
importantly Astronaut Steve Austin!!!! (but I hear they didn't kill all
of him)
Greg Heilers - 31 May 2005 00:20 GMT
> And don't forget the Challenger & Columbia crews, OH! and yeah, most
> importantly Astronaut Steve Austin!!!! (but I hear they didn't kill all
> of him)
And especially don't overlook astronaut Dylan Hunt. Back in the 1970's,
he supposedly perished THREE times (the second and third times, he was later
"seen" looking suspiciously like a typically ham-acting John Saxon). Even
more bizarre, the controversy re-arose back again, in the 1990's
(funny...this time, eyewitnesses described him as a "Kevin Sorbo-ish"
character).

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