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Aural Rocket Beeper (notes)

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Kurt - 31 May 2005 06:48 GMT
Hi,

  Posted back on 5/3/05 on the DIY kit #8 light alarm.  Got four of the
things for $6.60 each and built three of them.  Got them from:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl?c=317485&sc=8&category=-108&search=light%20alarm
Unfortunately they are out of stock now at that place.  Might be
available elsewhere.  Yes, I know there are cheaper alternatives out
there but I liked the clean off/on phenomena idea using the
photoelectric cell.
  Just a little report as this BAR was able to get some use out of them
and had some weird experiences with the devices.  First off, used an N
battery holder to cut down the size of the 9V power source. Second, I
used Devcon plastic epoxy to glue the battery holder to the back of the
circuit board. Setting the setpoint can be very sensitive and I have one
unit that will not shut off completely.  In the dark, it gives 5 beeps
then pauses.  When exposed to light, it beeps continuously.  I use it in
a radio rocket with a transmitter and I can hear when the recovery
system has deployed by that change in the beep pattern! The other two
shut off in the dark and come on in the light. Haven't built the fourth
yet.  I did use some N batteries that were partially worn down from
using in some radio bugs I have been experimenting with.  Using 12V
didn't matter except I think it might have made the setpoint more
sensitive. Thus the reason for using partially run down N cells. :)
  I suggest that one tapes in the battery for any beeper that uses an N
battery holder.  The importance will be apparent to the reader.
The board has two holes where I tied some Kevlar for a lanyard by simply
knotting the ends.  I had threaded a number 3 Laker ball bearing snap
swivel to the Kevlar before knotting for allegedly easy transfer to
different models.
These Laker swivels are 3 for a dollar so are not cheap.
  Out of three launch sessions I have lost the beepers off of the models
THREE times! Four times if you include the ripping out of the plastic
connection on the payload bay in a small model. (That one really doesn't
count as a swivel failure.)  Each time the snap swivel failed at the
snap.  Because the battery was taped in, the units free fell into the
grass at the driving range I use to launch and I simply walked over to
the area where I thought the model ejected.  I found the beepers beeping
away and were none the worse for wear after a free fall of between 700
and 1000 feet.
I did recover the models too.   I have since decided to use a long
enough lanyard so I can thread the unit to the screw eye with a single
slip knot.  I have not had a loss since and I credit it with saving my
Super Nova Payloader.  Used an E30-7 today and the wind carried it to
some tall grass.  I had to sprint to get a visual fix and decided to
walk straight to where I thought I saw it go down.  Kept walking and
started hearing the beeper.  It was about 50' to my left from where I
thought I saw it go down.  Boy did that really help expediting the
recovery.  The other times the models landed on field and I really
didn't need the beepers.
  The lesson here is to just use a slipknot to secure the unit and put
tape around the battery.  I did have the mass rip the plastic eyelet out
of the payload bay of a small Nova Payloader so I wouldn't use it in a
small model unless you modify the payload bay with a small scrap of
plywood and epoxy so you can use a standard screw eye and epoxy it in.
Have since done that to that model.
  One other suggestion is, if you have the room in the body tube, make
a small roughly 3/8" cone to wrap around the Piezo.  It acts as a
megaphone effect and it sounds louder. This can be done with any beeper
and I have done so with some of the simple screamers you can build from
 plans found and the Essence site. You can experiment with different
size cones by cutting and forming the cone and holding it on the Piezo.
When it sounds the loudest, CA it together and then to the Piezo.  Check
your body tube size first as with the cone you can't use it in the
smaller body tubes.  Wish I didn't have to find all this information out
myself but it was fun doing so.  Hope someone might find this useful.

                                    Kurt Savegnago
Kurt - 31 May 2005 16:58 GMT
> Hi,
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>                                     Kurt Savegnago

One mistake in the note above.  Where is says 3/8" I meant to say 3/4"
in the cone size. It is a rough estimate and you should just experiment
with it as it is really easy to do.  Does make the Piezo a bit more
directional but even face down in the grass, you still have a pretty
good range to hear it.

                             Kurt
 
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