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Model Forum / General / Rockets / August 2005Kosdon status
Frank authorized the upload of a video interview I did with him. If you like Frank, watch it. If you are a troll. Just go away quietly please. Thanks. http://www.v-serv.com/-upload/MOV00508.MPG  SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 You might consider warning folks that it's a 38MB download... David Erbas-White >Frank authorized the upload of a video interview I did with him. If you >like Frank, watch it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > You might consider warning folks that it's a 38MB download... You just did. I thought about it about 5 minutes after I hit send. Soon afterward the trolls started posting. Despite my polite request. I do not feel it necessary to warn the trolls. They hopefully have dial-up :) Comments: Too short? 38mb! Directed interview? Kosdon drones on without direction, believe me. Do I vote? Yes. Own guns? Not before, and not now either. Didn't notify of size. Correct. In my defense, I DID take a video of him and upload it. Waiting for someone else to do it was taking too long. I have another earlier one also large if enough people are genuinely interested. Emnail me if you' really care. Jerry P.S. If you have the capability to transfer it to VHS and mail it to Frank, I am sure he would appreciate it. > David Erbas-White > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 >>You might consider warning folks that it's a 38MB download... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Soon afterward the trolls started posting. Despite my polite request. They were not trolls, you said, and I quote, "If you are a troll. Just go away quietly please." Posting comments about your upload, is not an example of going away quietly. > I do not feel it necessary to warn the trolls. They hopefully have > dial-up :) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > In my defense, I DID take a video of him and upload it. Waiting for > someone else to do it was taking too long. What for? To demonstrate Frank's propellant sanding techniques? > I have another earlier one also large if enough people are genuinely > interested. Emnail me if you' really care. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > P.S. If you have the capability to transfer it to VHS and mail it to > Frank, I am sure he would appreciate it. Nice to see Frank. The interview was FORCED. You were artificial and he wasn't REALLY warm to you as you are trying to convince people that he is. You cut him OFF a couple of times because you were trying to FORCE the conversation in a direction YOU wanted it togo. So, ok you own a video camera. So, ok Frank is better person than you. So, you were at a launch. Ok, that is obvious. Now ... ... Do you have a video of you paying the $40,000.00 fine? Do you have a video tape of BATF agents arresting you? Do you have a video tape of your felony convictions? Hehehe I can and do legally own fire arms and vote ... how about you? Do you have a video tape of all the people you have screwed over the last 20+ years? Next time, pull down your pants, bend over and video tape that so we can DREAM about screwing you right back in your a.s with a blunt and barbed instrument ... PLEASE! Your friend, LunarBob And the beat goes on ... > Frank authorized the upload of a video interview I did with him. If you > like Frank, watch it. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com > Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 http://www.clayloomis.com/simsg372a.wav ;) (Couldn't find "bringlove.wav" - lawyers must have had it removed.) Found it. http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/diaz/222/bringlove.wav >Frank authorized the upload of a video interview I did with him. If you >like Frank, watch it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >http://www.v-serv.com/-upload/MOV00508.MPG Kinda short but not bad. You know? What the hell is this? Jerry seems like a nice guy in doing that interview. So does Frank. Glad he seems to be OK. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com > Frank authorized the upload of a video interview I did with him. If you > like Frank, watch it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.v-serv.com/-upload/MOV00508.MPG > You know? What the hell is this? Jerry seems like a nice guy in > doing that interview. > > So does Frank. Glad he seems to be OK. Jerry totally has socal accent. Like I should talk, stick a 12 pack in me and then my MN accent arrives :) Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75 Don't let the nice guy facade fool you ... I have met Jerry, talked with him, heard all of his "pie in the sky" ideas and promises, only to have him bite myself and others like the snake he is. Kosdon really is one of the "good guys" in the hobby. Even when he is upset with you, he shows tolerance and civility ... Jerry knows this and he is trying to use Kosdon as a means to show everyone in the hobby, "see I (Jerry) really am a nice guy ... a bit misunderstood, but a nice guy ... Frank and I are pals again!". Frank trust Jerry as far as Frank could punt a football at this point with his leg injury. LunarBob > > You know? What the hell is this? Jerry seems like a nice guy in > > doing that interview. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > TRA#5512 > IEAS#75 Hey, look who learned how to use spell-check...we're all SOOOO proud. "Don't let the nice guy facade fool you ... I have met Jerry, talked with him, heard all of his "pie in the sky" ideas and promises, only to have him bite myself and others like the snake he is." My experience has been different. I've met Jerry too and worked on launches with him. Never had a single problem. Rather than trying to read into the interview, why not take it at face value and give all parties concerned the benefit of the doubt. This negative name calling and denouncement of select individuals is getting older by the minute. The point is, Frank is recovering and for that we're all glad. As to the rest of it, why not let it drop. SignatureR. J. Talley Teacher/James Madison Fellow NAR #69594 NRA #133073736 > This negative name calling and denouncement of select individuals is > getting older by the minute. The point is, Frank is recovering and for > that we're all glad. As to the rest of it, why not let it drop. I would imagine because one person in this thread has acted inappropriately too many times to be given an easy out. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com > Don't let the nice guy facade fool you ... I have met Jerry, > talked with him, heard all of his "pie in the sky" ideas and > promises, only to have him bite myself and others Who and how? IF you are not lying I want to make good. However you ARE lying. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 BTW was anyone at all glad I posted this file? If not, I will not bother posting more. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 > BTW was anyone at all glad I posted this file? > > If not, I will not bother posting more. > > Jerry What was the purpose? I am a little puzzled as well. It is remarkable that Jerry and Frank K. are on speaking terms, and I gather that Frank K.. is recovering from an illness. There is evidently some controversy beyond that. ? > > BTW was anyone at all glad I posted this file? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What was the purpose? > I am a little puzzled as well. > It is remarkable that Jerry and Frank K. are on speaking terms, > and I gather that Frank K.. is recovering from an illness. Frank was being polite. Several years ago, Frank had major heart bypass surgery. The veins used in the surgery were harvested from His legs, hence Frank's current condition. > There is evidently some controversy beyond that. Not really. > ? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >>What was the purpose? I don't know how old Kosdon is, or how much damage his heart sustained, but I had that surgery just year and I'm not doing bad at all. I suspect, looking at his ankle, that he's probably got CHF and maybe diabetes as well, which can make recovery much more difficult. I also walk 3 miles a day if I can and it sounds as if Kosdon has never been that type of guy. Roy nar12605 >> I am a little puzzled as well. >> It is remarkable that Jerry and Frank K. are on speaking terms, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> >>>What was the purpose? > which can make recovery much more difficult. I also walk 3 miles a day if I > can and it sounds as if Kosdon has never been that type of guy. He is. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 OMG you are correct Dave! Once at a DREADED and DANGEROUS high power event, I had the pleasure of talking with Frank and discussing Jerry Irvine ... my oh my, oh my, Frank's veins started to swell, he became red in the face ... he had a few not so nice words about Heir Jer ... and well they included M*ther F&cker, "lying son of a bitch" and others ... damn, I wish I had VIDEO of that to post here! Look, I don't HATE Jerry, I just find him comical and a sad figure actually ... I mean he has NO credibility. He is universally HATED, why even Bob Kaplow has painted Jer's face on rockets and been photographed SCOWLING at it. Jer owes the government over $40,000.00, and winners of a civil lawsuit, tens of thousands. Also he is a convicted felon. He can't vote (participate in the great Freedom that we honest citizens enjoy), he can't LEGALLY own or operate a firearm, he has a F.B.I. file that will be reviewed should some explosive device be found or detonated in his local area/region, he will have his tax returns monitored ... basically he NOW has "Big Brother" on his front door! Damn, thank God almighty, I am NOT Jerry Irvine! So in actuality, I get a kick and a good laugh from just about EVERYTHING that this UNcitizen has to type or say ... he is pure BULLSHIT. I know it, the readers of this newsgroup know it ... and most of all, JERRY KNOWS IT. I say more bandwidth too him ... this guy is a joke, and I mean that in a fun way, not in a harsh way. Jerry keep the postings coming man, you are a better bullshitter than Bill Clinton, and THAT is impressive! You really should sale used cars, as I think you could make millions! So, Frank has mellowed out ... strokes and heart attacks will do that to you ... I also feel that it was a bit sinister for Jerry to take advantage of Frank's condition and try to be "buddy buddy" with him on camera, but hey WHO are we talking about ... Jerry Irvine ... how the f.ck do you expect him to act? I mean common, this is Jerry Irvine we are talking about :) The only rocketeer that I know of, that has people painting sniper scope images on his face and posting them to the public. He is a KNOWN quantity, so why all the surprise? :) Jerry, please DON'T stop posting and no this isn't any reverse physo crap to get you to stop ... I WAN'T you to continue ... by doing so, you inform and entertain the rocket community. Matter of fact, start cross posting to the other rocket forums ... they need a kick start, and YOU and only YOU know how to do that voodoo that you do so well! Hey, can you get a video of you and Bruce Kelly ... now THAT would be some action/adventure footage ... just make sure you do it AFTER Kelly is ill cause I don't want you damaged in ANY way :) You are a diamond in the rough ... just looking out for you Jerry ... Lunar "POINT" Bob > why even Bob Kaplow has painted Jer's face on rockets and been > photographed SCOWLING at it. Hey, bozo, you got your facts wrong again. Who the h3!! are you anyway? SignatureBob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/Document/MayJun00.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined. -- Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788 Hi Bobby, Here is the link to "Target Jerry": http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:4eUOM_nGKV4J:http://members.tripod.com/bub ba_d_redneck/jerky_vision.jpg The other (not linked) CLEARLY shows you seated at a table. You have taken an Alpha style rocket, painted it yellow/black and have affixed Jerry's face to the nose cone. I don't have the image, but it was in one of the club newsletters ... I will have to head over to storage and dig it out, but yes I did forget, now that you and Jerry both HATE TRA, you are best buds ... I will now place you into the same value range of Jerry. It was you Kaplow! Just like you made that upscale Estes Cloud Hopper and affixed Bundict's face to the nose, you DID THE SAME with Jerry ... but SHHHHHH now that you are FRIENDS with Jer, we will keep that our little secret ... until I dig out that NIRA newsletter showing you CLEARLY SCOWLING and pointing at your little friends face! Memory is the second thing to go huh Bobby? Lunar "Must get that NIRA newsletter" Bob > > why even Bob Kaplow has painted Jer's face on rockets and been > > photographed SCOWLING at it. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are > inevitably ruined. -- Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788 You seem like a psycho.. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com > Hi Bobby, > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are >> inevitably ruined. -- Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788 > Hi Bobby, My name is not "bobby". It's Robert or Bob. Since you haven't bothered to post your real name, how about if we call you "Dinky" from now on. > The other (not linked) CLEARLY shows you seated at a table. You have > taken an Alpha style rocket, > painted it yellow/black and have affixed Jerry's face to the nose cone. Yea, I built the rocket, but you've still got your facts wrong. The face is NOT painted, which is what you said in your first post. And it's not an Alpha, as you just said. H3!!, the name of the kit is actually on the rocket, and part of the clever name that goes with it. Perhaps you should stick to commenting on what you've actually seen. SignatureBob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/Document/MayJun00.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the boisterous sea of liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson >> Hi Bobby, > > My name is not "bobby". It's Robert or Bob. Since you haven't bothered to > post your real name, how about if we call you "Dinky" from now on. Whao there Robert! I thought you and luniticbob here were longtime oldtime pals. Are you telling me he is a freak from cyberspace, and you have no idea who he really is? He did seem to have some decent insite. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com >> The other (not linked) CLEARLY shows you seated at a table. You have >> taken an Alpha style rocket, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > rocket, and part of the clever name that goes with it. Perhaps you should > stick to commenting on what you've actually seen. I remember when Bobby had a full set of hair and would wear track shorts and knee high socks to launches ... ah those were the days ... well enough looking back ... and yes Bobby, nick names can be fun! :) Lunar "Dinky Due" Bob > I remember when Bobby had a full set of hair and would wear track > shorts and knee high socks to launches ... ah those were the days ... > well enough looking back ... and yes Bobby, nick names can be fun! :) I've never dressed like that at a launch. Not ever since Boy Scout days. Perhaps yopu're thinking of Tom Pastrick, who still does dress like that. SignatureBob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/Document/MayJun00.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania. 1759 >> I remember when Bobby had a full set of hair and would wear track >> shorts and knee high socks to launches ... ah those were the days ... >> well enough looking back ... and yes Bobby, nick names can be fun! :) > > I've never dressed like that at a launch. Not ever since Boy Scout days. > Perhaps yopu're thinking of Tom Pastrick, who still does dress like that. That would be rich! Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com > Whao there Robert! I thought you and luniticbob here were longtime > oldtime pals. Are you telling me he is a freak from cyberspace, and > you have no idea who he really is? He did seem to have some decent > insite. Maybe we are! But until he identifies himself, we can only know him as Dinky. SignatureBob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/Document/MayJun00.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania. 1759 Ok Bobby ... thanks for the update! Lunar "Not Kaplow" Bob >> why even Bob Kaplow has painted Jer's face on rockets and been >> photographed SCOWLING at it. > > Hey, bozo, you got your facts wrong again. Who the h3!! are you anyway? There ya go!!! Keep these posers on their heels!!!! Who the hell is he anyway? He seems to be somewhat of an insider. But apparently has no testicles to say who he really is. Kind of lame. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com > "Bob Kaplow" <kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.mars> wrote in message >> Hey, bozo, you got your facts wrong again. Who the h3!! are you anyway? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Who the hell is he anyway? He seems to be somewhat of an insider. > But apparently has no testicles to say who he really is. Kind of lame. His name shall henceforth be known as "Dinky"... SignatureBob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/Document/MayJun00.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the boisterous sea of liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson > His name shall henceforth be known as "Dinky"... Dinky works for me... I did sort of like lunaticbob. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com How about I sign, LuniDink Bob ... I love that! Lunar "LuniDink" Bob Thanks Bobby :) >BTW was anyone at all glad I posted this file? > >If not, I will not bother posting more. > >Jerry I'd be interested in seeing more. Thanks for posting it. On thing that wasn't in the video is what's story with the leg & how he's feeling that you spoke about? > BTW was anyone at all glad I posted this file? > > If not, I will not bother posting more. > > Jerry I didn't mind. Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75 I was. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com > BTW was anyone at all glad I posted this file? > > If not, I will not bother posting more. > > Jerry >>Don't let the nice guy facade fool you ... I have met Jerry, >>talked with him, heard all of his "pie in the sky" ideas and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jerry you Do have a fraud judgment against you. you Have yet to "make good" on that. > you Do have a fraud judgment against you. > you Have yet to "make good" on that. I am curious what you mean by "make good". If things were that bad wouldn't he be in the can? Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com >>you Do have a fraud judgment against you. >>you Have yet to "make good" on that. > > I am curious what you mean by "make good". If things were that bad > wouldn't he be in the can? jerry, To date, has not paid even a single penny of the fraud judgment. It's a civil fraud judgment, and unfortunately, there is no debtors prison. Oh wait, did You mean "garbage" can? >>>you Do have a fraud judgment against you. >>>you Have yet to "make good" on that. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > jerry, To date, has not paid even a single penny of the fraud judgment. Well frankly it must not be too important, and you guys should work on something else. I Mean this sure sounds like a dead horse if there ever was one. > It's a civil fraud judgment, and unfortunately, there is no debtors > prison. So what? If it is that big of a deal it would be resolved wouldn't it? > Oh wait, did You mean "garbage" can? Nope. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com >>>>you Do have a fraud judgment against you. >>>>you Have yet to "make good" on that. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > So what? If it is that big of a deal it would be resolved wouldn't it? Do You know where jerry hides his assets? >>Oh wait, did You mean "garbage" can? > > Nope. I knew that. :) >> So what? If it is that big of a deal it would be resolved wouldn't it? > > Do You know where jerry hides his assets? I could care less. Next thing you know you will bring up black helios. Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com >>jerry, To date, has not paid even a single penny of the fraud judgment. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I have to jump in here (sorry, can't resist). So, the Goldman's and the Brown's shouldn't "remind" folks that OJ owes them money for killing their kids? The only real recourse that someone with a judgement has is public shame and humiliation. If Jerry had a 'job', they could garnish his wages, but barring that, there is no other way to enforce this type of judgement. David Erbas-White >>> jerry, To date, has not paid even a single penny of the fraud judgment. >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > David Erbas-White Thanks David, I was also thinking that the Goldman's and the Brown's situation was a good example. I think in Their case, They would have preferred that the criminal case against oj was successful. In Our case, there was no criminal fraud prosecution of jerry, only civil prosecution. jerry May still go to jail eventually, but not for what he did to Us ("powertech" partners). I also know that any money jerry does/will have, if it can be found and seized, would end up going to the feds, to help pay off jerry's DOT fine. >In Our case, there was no criminal fraud prosecution of jerry, only >civil prosecution. jerry May still go to jail eventually, but not for >what he did to Us ("powertech" partners). > >I also know that any money jerry does/will have, if it can be found and >seized, would end up going to the feds, to help pay off jerry's DOT fine. Poor Jerry. > You know? What the hell is this? Jerry seems like a nice guy in > doing that interview. > > So does Frank. Glad he seems to be OK. You are clearly running against the grain. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. (too late) Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/6wlp8 >> You know? What the hell is this? Jerry seems like a nice guy in >> doing that interview. >> >> So does Frank. Glad he seems to be OK. > > You are clearly running against the grain. I said you seem like a nice guy. Did you see the word "seem". Please check the dictionary and put it in the FAQ :-) Signaturegcisko@hotmail.com The interviewer has that "NYPD BLUE" flair for moving the camera too much, and keeps interjecting and cutting into the interview. Unfortunately, one must already know Frank to glean anything from this at all... and then it still does nothing. The video gives more insight about the interviewer than the subject. This is not really an interview at all, it is just another home video. ~ Duane Phillips. > Frank authorized the upload of a video interview I did with him. If you > like Frank, watch it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.v-serv.com/-upload/MOV00508.MPG |
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