Model Forum / General / Rockets / August 2005

I don't live down in L.A., I'm out in the High Mojave Desert in Kern county
where I can fly my rockets and do other things without having to worry about
all the L.A.County/City rules.

In a way it's a GOOD thing. Now if we could just get the rest of the
socialist nuts, flakes, and kooks in this country to ALL move to the PRK,
and out of the rest of the country.

Then wait for the big one when it sinks into the ocean.

I once heard that California has more lawyers per capita than any other
state, while New Jersey had more toxic waste dumps per capits than any other
state.

NJ got first choice!

You say that as if implying his current popularity and performance would
prevent such a thing.  His popularity and performance have no say in the
matter.  He could turn out to be the finest governor the state ever has;
but the U.S. Constitution prevents his being elected President.  It is not
your disdain and hatred (and name-calling...so much for the Liberal mantra
of celebrating "diversity"...) which will keep him out of the White House.

Hmmmmm...."Reece Talley" eloquently expresses his opinion, while
demonstrating proper grammar, and spelling. "Starlord", exercising the same
wonderful right of "free speech" (try that in most Leftist nations); shows
a complete *lack* of respect for the using of proper grammar and spelling.
Could these traits and qualities be related to each gentleman's political
leanings?  I am willing to say "yes".

A brief history lesson is in order before I make this next point. Back when
California was considering coming into the union, there was a big debate
over whether or not it would be a free or slave state. In truth, California
would never adopt slavery for two very key reasons. First, it was not set up
for plantation type crops. Of course, had it been feasible, it could have
been but this never happened due to other competing issues such as the gold
strike and the war. Second, California had the Mexican. His labor was
cheaper than that of a slave for a bunch or reasons. He did not have to be
purchased. Nor did he have to be guarded. He never ran away and when you
were through with him, you just turned him away. Age was never an issue like
it was with an owned slave. If he became too old, you fired him. If he were
too young, you didn't hire him. Sickness was likewise not an issue. What did
it matter if the Mexican got sick? He was replaceable. Thus, you has an
endless supply of cheap labor. Add to that the 200 years of social
conditioning the Spanish government had imposed upon them and the spiritual
fatalism that the Catholic church had imbued them with (not to mention the
idea of permanent social class) and you've got the perfect worker. Cheap,
available and socially static.

The above is historical reality. It is also repugnant and shameful; firstly
for the Mexican for ever tolerating this system but even more so for the
white men who perpetrated this injustice. At least for the Mexican, there
was some nobility in the work accomplished. There was nothing to be proud of
for the whites. It was an evil imposed on a weaker social group by a
powerful majority and it condemned in perpetuity, millions of their
descendants to the same "defacto" slavery. So while it's true, California
was not a slave state under the law, it was certainly a slave state in daily
reality though not protected as such by the constitution's property laws.

Fast foreword to the present. The illegals among us today are these same
defacto slaves. They exist because they can be economically exploited by the
upper class. Of course, in our more socially conscious world, there are
social repercussions. The Mexican must have medical care and his children
must have schooling. Add to that the need to contain and control the
Mexican's behavior and the courts become over-burdened with cases. Fully 80
% of all drunk driving arrests in the state involve illegals. The number of
domestic abuse cases is equally high. More than 40% of the prisoners in CA's
high security prisons are illegals convicted of violent crime. The over-all
majority of Hispanic gang members are illegals and the majority of teenage
pregnancies can be traced to this same group as well.   Who pays for all of
this? The middle class. The rich who insist on keeping the borders open sure
don't. The taxes they pay make up a much smaller proportion of their
disposable income than those paid by a middle class worker. it remains, even
with taxes, far cheaper to pay the illegal minimum wage than it does to pay
the taxes that cover the real cost of his being in the US. The social
problems associated with illegals could for the most part, be avoided by
their moving up into hire income brackets.  Slowing the influx across the
border would also give the majority time to forcibly acculturate the
Mexican. Once we train out the "peasant" mentality and we instill English
language skills, they will rise in status and they will also rise in income.
The end result will be that they mainstream into society and become
financial and social contributors.  Think about it. How many potential
Einsteins are wasting away in carwashes and jails?

As bad as this is for the Mexican, it is worse for the white majority. The
whole process of paying for this mess is stripping away valuable resources
that could/should be devoted to societal advancement and enhancing the
quality of our lives. A select few benefit from the cheap labor while the
rest of us foot the bill. Add to that the none-to-subtle racisim that this
whole system begets and perpetuates and the moral debasement becomes even
worse. Any people who can allow this system to continue are or shortly will
be,  morally bankrupt. This grows like a cancer. If one can do this to a
fellow human in one area of life, the barriers that protect us from
exercising even greater evil upon each other grow weaker and weaker.
Eventually, we adopt cruelty and inhumanity as virtues, shoot, we even find
it entertaining and insist on it being packaged and presented to us in the
form of music and visual media . Violence becomes dejure. And we become like
the ancient Romans who became captivated by their own lusts; greed, violence
and moral/sexual debauchery.

The borders must be closed and the illegals must be prevented from entering.
Then we must be equally ardent in our efforts to educate and elevate their
children, who by virtue of their American birth, are fully citizens of this
country. All future immigration should be strictly held to a quota. These
limits must be in accordance with what our social system can process and
most importantly, we must insist upon complete acculturation and
assimilation. There simply cannot be two moral value systems competing for
recognition. If we do these things we can end this shameful practice and
elevate us all. Even Mexico, once deprived of its social safety valve, will
have to deal with its horrific poverty and ignorance. The ruling elite such
as Vincente Fox will loose their protected racial status and the color
barrier that exists in Mexico will come down.

This stuff makes me angry as hell. I hate even to talk about it because so
many people are so blind to what is going on. I feel most of my words fall
on deaf ears so I usually remain silent. Every once in a while though,
something ticks me off enough to speak up. For some reason, this was one of
those days. If you don't agree with me fine, I'm not going to argue with
you. The facts remain the same though. The illegal is a de facto slave and
his existence perpetuates racial and social discrimination. His existence
cost us far more than he contributes and it is as hurtful to us as it is to
him and his progeny.

EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY... every body else that has come to this country did
it the "right" way... they waited their turn and went thru the red
tape....and guess what? they even learned the english language and
assimilated into out culture....

shockie B)

another "troll" response from Phil "cyberstalker" Stein...

shockie B)