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Model Forum / General / Rockets / September 2003Ring tailed whistling rocket at ROCI AMA CRIFF launch
At the recent ROCI launch there was a red three finned rocket with a ring around the base of the fins. It whistled. Does anyone know if this is a kit, if there are plans, or who the owner might be? Thanks! Sam Midkiff A better email address than the one given in the message header is: s m i d k i f f a t p u r d u e d o t e d u > At the recent ROCI launch there was a red three finned rocket with a > ring around the base of the fins. It whistled. Does anyone know if > this is a kit, if there are plans, or who the owner might be? That was Joe Isca's upscale Sprite. The original was an Estes kit, but it was very small. Mario Perdue NAR #22012 Sr. L2 for email drop the planet http://www.indyrockets.org "X-ray-Delta-One, this is Mission Control, two-one-five-six, transmission concluded." >> At the recent ROCI launch there was a red three finned rocket with a >> ring around the base of the fins. It whistled. Does anyone know if >> this is a kit, if there are plans, or who the owner might be? > > That was Joe Isca's upscale Sprite. The original was an Estes kit, but > it was very small. You can find plans for a slightly smaller (BT-80 main body, 7.6" ring, flies on D-E-F motors) upscaled Astron Sprite in the JanFeb99.pdf issue of The Leading Edge. Go to the NIRA home page (below), then follow the newsletter link and select the issue above. Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html > >> At the recent ROCI launch there was a red three finned rocket with a > >> ring around the base of the fins. It whistled. Does anyone know if [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You can find plans for a slightly smaller (BT-80 main body, 7.6" ring, flies > on D-E-F motors) Fly it with a 24mm USR 240 H 100 -8. That'll make it scream. > upscaled Astron Sprite in the JanFeb99.pdf issue of The > Leading Edge. Go to the NIRA home page (below), then follow the newsletter [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! > http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html  SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate at iKobo.com c/o my email. > Fly it with a 24mm USR 240 H 100 -8. That'll make it scream. At what dealer in IL or a neighboring state can I buy this motor? At what launch in IL or a neighboring state can I fly this motor? Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html > > Fly it with a 24mm USR 240 H 100 -8. That'll make it scream. > > At what dealer in IL or a neighboring state can I buy this motor? I suppose any dealer willing to buy and selll with no LEUP, whoever that might be. I know for a fact none are in stock at dealers in the area you specify. > At what launch in IL or a neighboring state can I fly this motor? Any indy launch (ie not NAR and not TRA). Any launch that meets that very simple criteria. Being under 113g there is also no FAA waiver requirement. General access, general discharge. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate at iKobo.com c/o my email. >> > Fly it with a 24mm USR 240 H 100 -8. That'll make it scream. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > might be. I know for a fact none are in stock at dealers in the area > you specify. So I can't buy one around here. Makes it hard to fly what you can't buy. >> At what launch in IL or a neighboring state can I fly this motor? > > Any indy launch (ie not NAR and not TRA). Any launch that meets that > very simple criteria. Please post a location, date, time, and contact information. Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html > >> > Fly it with a 24mm USR 240 H 100 -8. That'll make it scream. > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > So I can't buy one around here. Makes it hard to fly what you can't buy. Not if YOU buy it. > >> At what launch in IL or a neighboring state can I fly this motor? > > > > Any indy launch (ie not NAR and not TRA). Any launch that meets that > > very simple criteria. > > Please post a location, date, time, and contact information. I will be glad to when I start making news releases for all you too I am sure will also see them. Mean time there is at least one tryly indy club worth mentioning: ieas.org and one non-club group: arocket.net Form a chapter and stary flying. It is not during NAR time or under NAR rules so it is compatible with your lifetime membership too. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate at iKobo.com c/o my email. Jerry, you and I both know that with that motor, his rocket will shred while still on the rod. :) That sucka kicks some serious butt. SignatureR. J. Talley Teacher/James Madison Fellow NAR #69594 NRA #133073736 > > Fly it with a 24mm USR 240 H 100 -8. That'll make it scream. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html > Jerry, you and I both know that with that motor, his rocket will shred while > still on the rod. :) That sucka kicks some serious butt. Getting someone to try it is like pulling teeth :) The last time I even made any they went to Ken Allen and they were some of the first motors he sold. I think there are alot of rockets that can take long 24mm motors physigally but due to the length, most of those were originally designed for G's and H's anyway. His rocket, of course, is expendable. The motor has a "soft" thrust curve :) It's all relative: www.v-serv.com/usr/motors/h100.html And to prove they exist in real life: www.v-serv.com/usr/motors/j160.html Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate at iKobo.com c/o my email. >> Jerry, you and I both know that with that motor, his rocket will shred while >> still on the rod. :) That sucka kicks some serious butt. > > Getting someone to try it is like pulling teeth :) Don't say that to me right now... > The last time I even made any they went to Ken Allen and they were some > of the first motors he sold. I think there are alot of rockets that can > take long 24mm motors physigally but due to the length, most of those > were originally designed for G's and H's anyway. > > His rocket, of course, is expendable. I could certainly build one strong enough for a motor like this. But since we're talking about an Estes kit scaleup, the rocket most likely wouldn't be long enough to hold this motor. Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html >>> Jerry, you and I both know that with that motor, his rocket will shred while >>> still on the rod. :) That sucka kicks some serious butt. >> >> Getting someone to try it is like pulling teeth :) > >Don't say that to me right now... Uh oh. Um, so the dental "encounter" didn't go too well Bob? <g> tah -- Tod A. Hilty Hilty Information Systems Do not look in the direction of the flash... Curl up in a ball as you hit the ground... Please replace weinerboy dot org with adelphia dot net for reply. >>> Getting someone to try it is like pulling teeth :) >> >>Don't say that to me right now... > > Uh oh. Um, so the dental "encounter" didn't go too well Bob? Well, it went, and the offending tooth is gone. I only needed the major pain medication the first day, and I've only been using 1-2 OTC Ibuprofen a day since the weekend. But all in all, it's not an experience I'm looking forward to repeating. I'd much rather spend a week inhaling APCP exhaust... Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html > >>> Getting someone to try it is like pulling teeth :) > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > since the weekend. But all in all, it's not an experience I'm looking > forward to repeating. Can't this all be a secret from us on rmr? > I'd much rather spend a week inhaling APCP exhaust... I can arrange that. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate at iKobo.com c/o my email. > > At the recent ROCI launch there was a red three finned rocket with a > > ring around the base of the fins. It whistled. Does anyone know if [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > "X-ray-Delta-One, this is Mission Control, two-one-five-six, transmission > concluded." The original didn't whistle. The bigger one probably had vibrating parts so build a sprite with lightweight parts. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate at iKobo.com c/o my email. The one I built in the 60's whistled. Kinda lobbed into the air on those Estes "short" motors, whistled all the way up, and then sorta tumbled end over end on the way down, the best I can remember > > > At the recent ROCI launch there was a red three finned rocket with a > > > ring around the base of the fins. It whistled. Does anyone know if [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com > My articles valuable? Donate at iKobo.com c/o my email. |
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