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kimballt@pacbell.net - 13 Nov 2005 06:29 GMT
In the last few times I have read this news group I have noticed a lot of
off topic junk when I was hoping to find something informative and usefull.
raydunakin@aol.com - 13 Nov 2005 07:16 GMT
> In the last few times I have read this news group I have noticed a lot of
> off topic junk when I was hoping to find something informative and usefull.

This is pretty tame compared to a lot of other usenet groups. As for
your search for something informative and useful, what exactly are you
looking for? Post a rocketry question and you'll get plenty of
informative and useful answers here.

,
Greg Heilers - 13 Nov 2005 08:22 GMT
>> In the last few times I have read this news group I have noticed a lot of
>> off topic junk when I was hoping to find something informative and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> ,

People should also remember, that rocketeers are no different for other
model builders.  When we get together...be it at a monthly club meeting,
a contest, or here in cyber-space...that we talk about a *lot* of off-topic
things.  Modelers, in general, are of above-average intelligence; and are
also well-informed in current events, politics, history, etc.  We talk
about such things with each other, because we *can*.  Compare that with
our typical day at work; where one's coworkers are not capable of engaging
in such types of conversations.

We also are very talented at sharing humor of the most ribald and
politically incorrect nature (the best kind of humor, by far...)!

You are also correct in suggesting that one needs to *ask* for information;
as opposed to just waiting for it to fall into their laps.  Modelers
are very willing to "share the knowledge"; but we do *not* usually
support the "hobby welfare state"...catering to people just waiting
for a handout.

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Kurt - 13 Nov 2005 22:56 GMT
>>>In the last few times I have read this news group I have noticed a lot of
>>>off topic junk when I was hoping to find something informative and
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> support the "hobby welfare state"...catering to people just waiting
> for a handout.

Cripes,

  One just needs to look at the subject line and see if one is
interested.  If not, then go on to something else.  I found the
subject line of the book ripoff tedious and I just went on to something
else.
                          Kurt Savegnago
ar50troll@gmail.com - 14 Nov 2005 13:08 GMT
Couldn't you just use rocketryonline.com if your looking for something
specific.  This group is way tame comapared to the rest out there.
Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 13:36 GMT
> In the last few times I have read this news group I have noticed a lot of
> off topic junk when I was hoping to find something informative and usefull.

I found the tone and tenor of your message generally unhelpful.

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 14:27 GMT
>> In the last few times I have read this news group I have noticed a lot of
>> off topic junk when I was hoping to find something informative and usefull.
>
>I found the tone and tenor of your message generally unhelpful.

Get a Bose then...

Great tone and tenor!

Bass and treble too!

<vbg>

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ar50troll@gmail.com - 21 Nov 2005 14:33 GMT
BOSE IS CRAP!  Buy Genelecs and never look back.  I got a set of 1031's
a few years back and they eclipse my Seventh Veil's that I paid over
$12,000 for.
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 14:39 GMT
>BOSE IS CRAP!  Buy Genelecs and never look back.  I got a set of 1031's
>a few years back and they eclipse my Seventh Veil's that I paid over
>$12,000 for.

Uh..  okey dokey!

12 grand?  To each his own, ma man!

I use a 1971 Sansui.  Excellent frequency response.  Power transistors
get pretty hot though, so a soon as I "smell amp" the big cooling
blower gets fired up...

Fried two sets of speakers, and thus far the only ones holding steady
are a pair of CV V253 MKII's...

Got the pair for $100 bucks at a garage sale...

<g>

Tod "Likes his music LOUD!" Hilty

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Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 17:35 GMT
> >BOSE IS CRAP!  Buy Genelecs and never look back.  I got a set of 1031's
> >a few years back and they eclipse my Seventh Veil's that I paid over
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> 12 grand?  To each his own, ma man!

Indeed.

> I use a 1971 Sansui.  Excellent frequency response.  Power transistors
> get pretty hot though, so a soon as I "smell amp" the big cooling
> blower gets fired up...

I use a Technics integrated amp, speakers I constructed myself utilizing
ADS tweets, JBL mids and Nakamichi midwoofs and back them up with a big,
boomy Cerwin Vega 15" sub.  I AM the king of flap, baby.

I enjoy strapping so called "audiophiles" into a chair in my living room
and torturing them for hours on end.  BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.  I got your
flat response right here.

I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and if I learned
one thing it was the concept of "good enough"....well, and that any
cable that cost more than 5 bucks is a waste of money.  So two things.

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ar50troll@gmail.com - 21 Nov 2005 18:44 GMT
I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and if I learned

one thing it was the concept of "good enough"....well, and that any
cable that cost more than 5 bucks is a waste of money.  So two things.

You sure did learn wrong.  I guess that's why you don't work in the
industry any longer.
Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 18:58 GMT
> I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and if I learned
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> You sure did learn wrong.  I guess that's why you don't work in the
> industry any longer.

That's it?  

This group really has gone downhill.

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 19:19 GMT
>> I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and if I learned
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>This group really has gone downhill.

Yeah really!

'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
a full blown usenet thermonuclear detonation?

Oh, wait...

That's currently going on down in "FAA Waiver Question"...

<vbg>

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Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 20:12 GMT
> >> I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and if I learned
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
> a full blown usenet thermonuclear detonation?

Wistfully.

> Oh, wait...
>
> That's currently going on down in "FAA Waiver Question"...

Is somnambulistic a word?

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 20:25 GMT
>> >> I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and if I learned
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>Is somnambulistic a word?

Yes.  See "sleepwalking"[1]...

<vbg>

tah

[1] OK, I had to do the dictionary.com dance for that one...

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Dave Grayvis - 21 Nov 2005 20:35 GMT
>>>>I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and if I learned
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Is somnambulistic a word?

You tell Us, is it?
randyolb@charter.net - 21 Nov 2005 22:40 GMT
> Is somnambulistic a word?

No, you just invented it. Get a patent quick!

BTW, what does it mean?

Randy
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Tweak - 23 Nov 2005 13:27 GMT
> > Is somnambulistic a word?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Randy
> www.vernarockets.com

Sorry, I was asleep...did you say something?
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randyolb@charter.net - 23 Nov 2005 20:55 GMT
> Sorry, I was asleep...did you say something?

I SAID, is your Thanksgiving chicken in the oven yet?

Randy
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raydunakin@aol.com - 22 Nov 2005 00:21 GMT
> 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
> a full blown usenet thermonu clear detonation?
>
> Oh, wait...
>
> That's currently going on down in "FAA Waiver Question"...

Yes, apparently the greatest heresy in rockety is to even hint that
certain regs aren't directly related to safety.
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 22 Nov 2005 00:35 GMT
>> 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
>> a full blown usenet thermonu clear detonation?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Yes, apparently the greatest heresy in rockety is to even hint that
>certain regs aren't directly related to safety.

No.. NO Ray!  Go *back* to your thread...

We had a nice, clean fight going on in this one...

Yer not aloud to bring that up in here!

<g>

tah

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nosig@everywhere.com - 22 Nov 2005 00:44 GMT
> > 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
> > a full blown usenet thermonu clear detonation?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Yes, apparently the greatest heresy in rockety is to even hint that
> certain regs aren't directly related to safety.

They are defacto for "public safety" purpose.
W. E. Fred Wallace - 22 Nov 2005 01:06 GMT
> > 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
> > a full blown usenet thermonu clear detonation?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Yes, apparently the greatest heresy in rockety is to even hint that
> certain regs aren't directly related to safety.

Ray, are you hinting that FAR 101 regs aren't related directly to
safety?? (:-)
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 22 Nov 2005 01:12 GMT
>> > 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
>> > a full blown usenet thermonu clear detonation?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Ray, are you hinting that FAR 101 regs aren't related directly to
>safety?? (:-)

NO NO NO!

Go away!  Yer pollutin' my thread!

<g>

tah

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W. E. Fred Wallace - 22 Nov 2005 01:35 GMT
> >> > 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
> >> > a full blown usenet thermonu clear detonation?
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Tod A. Hilty

Sorry, I thought I was keeping my response in line with the ridiculous,
hoping to smoke out something great.. :)

Fred
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 22 Nov 2005 02:08 GMT
>> >> > 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
>> >> > a full blown usenet thermonu clear detonation?
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>Fred

Oh, OK.  Yeah, me too...

That's why I'm channeling Rod Serling...

<vbg>

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Kevin Trojanowski - 22 Nov 2005 15:22 GMT
> Oh, OK.  Yeah, me too...
>
> That's why I'm channeling Rod Serling...

I'm disappointed Tod, really, I am.

I thought that by now, you would've posted a link to some whacko website
in response to Fred.  You've got a million of 'em!

-Kevin
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 23 Nov 2005 18:46 GMT
>> Oh, OK.  Yeah, me too...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>-Kevin

http://www.universe-people.com/english/default_e.htm

When you figure out how it works...

Let me know...

<vbg>

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 23 Nov 2005 18:53 GMT
http://www.absurd.org/a.html

Bad acid...

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 23 Nov 2005 19:02 GMT
http://deoxy.org/deoxy.htm

Oh my!

<vbg>

tah

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Kevin Trojanowski - 23 Nov 2005 22:22 GMT
> http://deoxy.org/deoxy.htm

Holy cow, it's King Tut on an acid trip!
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 23 Nov 2005 19:30 GMT
>> Oh, OK.  Yeah, me too...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>I thought that by now, you would've posted a link to some whacko website
>in response to Fred.  You've got a million of 'em!

And, for Kurdt...

http://www.randomchicken.com/

<vbg>

tah

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Tweak - 23 Nov 2005 19:41 GMT
> >> Oh, OK.  Yeah, me too...
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> http://www.randomchicken.com/

Yuk yuk yuk...or should that be cluck cluck cluck?

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tdstr - 23 Nov 2005 20:00 GMT
>>>>Oh, OK.  Yeah, me too...
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Yuk yuk yuk...or should that be cluck cluck cluck?

Personally I think nyuk nyuk nyuk is more appropriate :)

Ted Novak
TRA#5512
IEAS#75
tdstr - 23 Nov 2005 20:06 GMT
>>>Oh, OK.  Yeah, me too...
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Tod A. Hilty
> Hilty Information Systems

I bet this was the chicken that blasted his way out of Kurt's coup :)

http://www.psychochicken.com/art/tpc%20kiss.htm

Ted Novak
TRA#5512
IEAS#75
Tweak - 28 Nov 2005 13:54 GMT
> I bet this was the chicken that blasted his way out of Kurt's coup :)
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> TRA#5512
> IEAS#75

Now that is a good one.
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Kevin Trojanowski - 23 Nov 2005 22:25 GMT
Phew!  I feel better now.

I was getting worried about you for a while there, Tod.

-Kevin
Tweak - 23 Nov 2005 13:35 GMT
> >> > 'Member the days when comments like that would quickly degenerate into
> >> > a full blown usenet thermonu clear detonation?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Go away!  Yer pollutin' my thread!

I disappear for a day, and just look what you let happen here, Hilty.  
How COULD you let this thread get back on topic.

Fer shame.
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raydunakin@aol.com - 22 Nov 2005 02:22 GMT
> > Yes, apparently the greatest heresy in rockety is to even hint that
> > certain regs aren't directly related to safety.
>
> Ray, are you hinting that FAR 101 regs aren't related directly to
> safety?? (:-)

No comment here, Fred. I've learned my lesson. I must have missed the
list of which regs are off limits for comment in the Rocketeer's Bible.
Perhaps someone should add "Thou shalt not question the utility of FAA
regs" to the FAQ.   ;)

Anyway, where were we? Oh yeah, sound systems. So, how 'bout them
cables, eh?

?
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 22 Nov 2005 02:27 GMT
>> > Yes, apparently the greatest heresy in rockety is to even hint that
>> > certain regs aren't directly related to safety.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Anyway, where were we? Oh yeah, sound systems. So, how 'bout them
>cables, eh?

Cables of a certain diameter, and current carrying capacity *are*
regulated by the FCC, and you *do* need special waiver to oper...

Um.. wait...

<vbg>

tah

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raydunakin@aol.com - 22 Nov 2005 08:07 GMT
> Cables of a certain diameter, and current carrying capacity *are*
> regulated by the FCC, and you *do* need special waiver to oper...
>
> Um.. wait...
>
> <vbg>

ROTFL!!
Doug Sams - 21 Nov 2005 20:31 GMT
Tweak stated:
> I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and
> if I learned one thing it was the concept of "good enough"....well,
> and that any cable that cost more than 5 bucks is a waste of money.  
> So two things.

ar50troll wrote:
> You sure did learn wrong.  I guess that's why you don't work in the
> industry any longer.

So how much did you get took for on your monster cables?  Tell us, which
sounds better, the blue capacitors or the green ones?  Did you put the
green cellophane tape on the pick-up in your CD player to improve the
fidelity?  What size aluminum foil hat do you wear?  Try not to get any
snake oil on ya, OK :)

Doug
David Erbas-White - 21 Nov 2005 20:34 GMT
>Tweak stated:
>  
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>  

I learned many years ago that monster cables were well worth the money.

My cat couldn't chew through them the way he could through standard
speaker wire... <G>

David Erbas-White
Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 20:41 GMT
> >Tweak stated:
> >  
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> David Erbas-White

They do work exceptionally well to pull other cables through walls.  
Quite strong.
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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 20:46 GMT
>Tweak stated:
>> I spent almost a decade working in the audio industry, and
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>fidelity?  What size aluminum foil hat do you wear?  Try not to get any
>snake oil on ya, OK :)

Now Doug... be nice...

Aluminum foil hats have been shown, in quadruple blind clinical
studies, to enhance the etheral ultrasubmegamassivebass response that
*is* present, but typically unnoticed when utilizing standard
"humanoid" speakers.  Prior to this discovery, only the inhabitants of
Oxydol-9 were able to even *begin* to perceive these multicellular,
sub-atomic, electrohydrodynamic vibrations.

Certain species of Yeti *and* Sub Genii, are rumoured to be at least
cognizant of the existance of these special electonuclearcarburated
vibrations...

Monster cables, or nothin'... just ask Art Bell..

<vbg>

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John Bowles - 21 Nov 2005 20:51 GMT
> Tweak stated:
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Doug

There is a $2000, platinum, POWER CABLE out there on the web somewhere....

$2000 for a power cable, I wouldn't pay that much for an audio system.
ar50troll@gmail.com - 21 Nov 2005 20:52 GMT
So how much did you get took for on your monster cables?  Tell us,
which
sounds better, the blue capacitors or the green ones?  Did you put the
green cellophane tape on the pick-up in your CD player to improve the
fidelity?  What size aluminum foil hat do you wear?  Try not to get any

snake oil on ya, OK :)

Doug

Doug, Monster is crap, just like Cerwin Vega.  For most of my cabling I
use Magnan.  CD transport is Mark Levinson.  I I would bet you the CD
transport cost more than your car...probably twice.
Doug Sams - 21 Nov 2005 21:03 GMT
> I would bet you the CD transport cost more than your
> car...probably twice.

Twice as much as this bad boy? No way!

http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/001002.html

:)

Doug
Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 21:07 GMT
> > I would bet you the CD transport cost more than your
> > car...probably twice.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Doug

That is my kind of car.  Looks fast.
;-)
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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 21:10 GMT
>> I would bet you the CD transport cost more than your
>> car...probably twice.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Doug

I'm surprised that they didn't use drywall scraps...

<g>

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 21:08 GMT
>So how much did you get took for on your monster cables?  Tell us,
>which
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>use Magnan.  CD transport is Mark Levinson.  I I would bet you the CD
>transport cost more than your car...probably twice.

Well hooya!  Dunno about the rest of you guys, but *I'm* impressed!

Wow...

Where does the CD transport transport your CD's to?

As I said before, to each his own, or whatever blows yer dress up...

I'll sink my cash into RMS reloads thanks, and let my poor ol' Sansui
take the heat...

<g>

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Doug Sams - 21 Nov 2005 21:13 GMT
tod hiltyt wrote:

> I'll sink my cash into RMS reloads thanks, and let my poor
> ol' Sansui take the heat...

I was just thinking the other day that it was time to pull
my mid-70's Pioneer SX-850 out of the bottom of the closet
and fire up some Christmas carols...or maybe some Molly Hatchet :)

Think I can covert my ADS's from end tables back into speakers?
<vbg>

Doug
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 21:19 GMT
>tod hiltyt wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>my mid-70's Pioneer SX-850 out of the bottom of the closet
>and fire up some Christmas carols...

Oh yeah.  Mannheim Steamroller, TSO...

>or maybe some Molly Hatchet :)

Down your way?  I'd say Stevie Ray Vaughn at large volume...  

Hmm.. System of a Down, Type O Negative, and a bit of Metallica
also...

>Think I can covert my ADS's from end tables back into speakers?

What?  Just leave 'em as they are!  Take the fine china, and the lamps
off first tho'...

><vbg>
>
>Doug

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ar50troll@gmail.com - 21 Nov 2005 21:25 GMT
Mannheim Steamroller, that's funny.  I went to college with Chip Davis.
randyolb@charter.net - 21 Nov 2005 23:27 GMT
The best speakers for the home I ever knew of were from Radio Shack called
Nova 8. They can handle 250 watts per channel turned wide open. NO
distortion. One time I broke out a window in my bedroom playing Hair of the
Dog all the way up. After that I learned to open the window but then the
airport called and complained.

They were guaranteed for life but they stopped selling them back about 1980.
I still have mine 31 years later and they still sound good.

Randy
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Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 21:11 GMT
> So how much did you get took for on your monster cables?  Tell us,
> which
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> use Magnan.  CD transport is Mark Levinson.  I I would bet you the CD
> transport cost more than your car...probably twice.

What saying is it that comes to mind?  Something about fools and their
money...

Who cares about a silly cage, anyway?  Or a CD player that costs more
than 99 bucks, for that matter.  Cages and CD players exist only to
transport and entertain me between home and the track or flying field.  

Bet Cerwins give you nightmares.  BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP
MUD.  Think I'll go buy another 15" just for you.  Oh, and I listen to
CDs filled with MP3s, as well.  Good enough.
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ar50troll@gmail.com - 21 Nov 2005 21:13 GMT
Bet Cerwins give you nightmares.  BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP

MUD.  Think I'll go buy another 15" just for you.  Oh, and I listen to
CDs filled with MP3s, as well.  Good enough.
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Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 21:43 GMT
> Bet Cerwins give you nightmares.  BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP
>
> MUD.  Think I'll go buy another 15" just for you.  Oh, and I listen to
> CDs filled with MP3s, as well.  Good enough.

Hey, he/she/it called me son!  That is the spirit!

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 23:34 GMT
>> Bet Cerwins give you nightmares.  BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP
>>
>> MUD.  Think I'll go buy another 15" just for you.  Oh, and I listen to
>> CDs filled with MP3s, as well.  Good enough.
>
>Hey, he/she/it called me son!  That is the spirit!

Yeah, but it's still not like the good ol' days when we all just used
to call each other prick...

<vbg>

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John Stein - 22 Nov 2005 13:47 GMT
>>> Bet Cerwins give you nightmares.  BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP MUD BOOM FLAP
>>>
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>
> <vbg>

Why does George Carlin come to mind?  :-)

> tah
>
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>
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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 18:52 GMT
>> >BOSE IS CRAP!  Buy Genelecs and never look back.  I got a set of 1031's
>> >a few years back and they eclipse my Seventh Veil's that I paid over
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>one thing it was the concept of "good enough"....well, and that any
>cable that cost more than 5 bucks is a waste of money.  So two things.

LOL!

Yep.  Somebody *gave* me the Sansui.  Had it in their garage or
something.  Best damn amplifier I've ever owned (toasted our Yamaha
years ago)...

Speakers (well, the bass side at least) came from a garage sale where
the jilted woman of an ex-DJ was unloading his stuff just to try and
forget him, I guess...  I don't think you can find those drivers for
less than $500 now...

Turn on the blower, wind up the volume, unlatch the 20db filter, start
Dark Side of the Moon, and watch the plaster dust fall from the
ceiling fixtures, and the pictures on the wall start moving around by
themselves...

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randyolb@charter.net - 21 Nov 2005 19:09 GMT
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:35:29 -0500, Tweak

> Turn on the blower, wind up the volume, unlatch the 20db filter, start
> Dark Side of the Moon, and watch the plaster dust fall from the
> ceiling fixtures, and the pictures on the wall start moving around by
> themselves...

Nahhh.  Smoke On the Water.

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 23:15 GMT
>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:35:29 -0500, Tweak
>
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>
>Nahhh.  Smoke On the Water.

Ya know, I'd probably go with Deep Purple's Perfect Strangers...

Dunno what it is, but that "middle eastern" syncopation is just
awesome...

And at ear bleeding intensities, it's unbeatable!

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Phil Stein - 22 Nov 2005 00:25 GMT
>>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:35:29 -0500, Tweak
>>
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>
>tah

Sorry but it should be "In Rock."  I still have my Crown DC300 & IC150
(there are some A's in there somewhere) but I sold my Bose 901's many
years ago.  (I guess the other Bose fans here should approve of that.)

My wife bought me a Bose Wave Radio - what an overpriced piece of
crap!!  This is NOT for ROCKIN!
izannounce@acceptable-gains.net - 23 Nov 2005 13:58 GMT
Steppenwolf - Magic Carpet Ride

bliss

- iz
lunarlosREMOVE2EMAIL@juno.com - 23 Nov 2005 15:07 GMT
Hi jerry,

Where ya been and why haven't you answered ANY of the questions about
the lawsuits and fraud?  I would like get some 'model airplane' parts,
and yes I WILL tell!  Just give me the C.O.D. amount for 50 long burn
USR H motors ...

Jimi Hendrix - Voodoo Chile

- Lunar

> Steppenwolf - Magic Carpet Ride
>
> bliss
>
> - iz
tdstr - 21 Nov 2005 20:07 GMT
>>>BOSE IS CRAP!  Buy Genelecs and never look back.  I got a set of 1031's
>>>a few years back and they eclipse my Seventh Veil's that I paid over
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> one thing it was the concept of "good enough"....well, and that any
> cable that cost more than 5 bucks is a waste of money.  So two things.

Ok, true story here.  A buddy of mine that I worked with for years asked
me to give him a ride from the airport to home.  I've never seen his
house before so he gave a quick tour.  Nothing much, big a.s tv, nice
kitchen, *real* nice workshop and then his hifi system....oh my god...

I sat in the sweet spot and he cranked up some Tori Amos....I swear the
the piano was right there in the living room!  God as my witness I could
smell Tori's perfume!

Then he shows me this box filled with handwritten notes and algorithms
from the last ten years he spent building this system.  We're talking
hand made tube amps, preamps, speaker boxes(several hundred lbs a piece)
x-overs et all.  The cable he used for the speakers is about 1" round!
He even installed a cooling system in the basement that goes through the
floor to his living room.  All in all he gave me a estimate on what's
invested in it and well, I think it literally doubled his house in value
as when the house goes, so does the hifi.

Now the kicker....my bud is 80% deaf!

Go figure...

Ted Novak
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Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 20:15 GMT
> >>>BOSE IS CRAP!  Buy Genelecs and never look back.  I got a set of 1031's
> >>>a few years back and they eclipse my Seventh Veil's that I paid over
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> TRA#5512
> IEAS#75

Now that you mention speaker cable, I should have added a caveat on the
cabling limiting my comment to low voltage only.

And don't you want to call me a "poo poo head" or somesuch?

To the dogs.
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tdstr - 21 Nov 2005 20:20 GMT
>>>>>BOSE IS CRAP!  Buy Genelecs and never look back.  I got a set of 1031's
>>>>>a few years back and they eclipse my Seventh Veil's that I paid over
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>
> To the dogs.

Well I have no doubts that 'poo poo' heads hang on rmr, but Kurt, you
ain't one of *them* :)

Ted Novak
TRA#5512
IEAS#75
Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 20:29 GMT
> Well I have no doubts that 'poo poo' heads hang on rmr, but Kurt, you
> ain't one of *them* :)
>
> Ted Novak
> TRA#5512
> IEAS#75

I do give it my all, though.

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W. E. Fred Wallace - 21 Nov 2005 22:37 GMT
> >BOSE IS CRAP!  Buy Genelecs and never look back.  I got a set of 1031's
> >a few years back and they eclipse my Seventh Veil's that I paid over
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> Tod A. Hilty
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Tod; now your talking about the good old stuff. I have an old Sansui
5000C, bought in late 1968, pushing a pair of old Utah 15 inch musical
instrument speakers and a pair of Bogan horns, all set up in my garage.
I replaced the Sansui in the house with a Carver setup many years ago.
However, the Carver fails to do justice to Black Sabbath like the Sansui
set up. At half volume, the ripples on top a glass of beer, need to be
seen to be appreciated..(:-)

Fred, and I wonder why my hearing is depreciated
hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 22:58 GMT
<snip my junk>

>Tod; now your talking about the good old stuff. I have an old Sansui
>5000C, bought in late 1968, pushing a pair of old Utah 15 inch musical
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>
>Fred, and I wonder why my hearing is depreciated

YES!

Listen to the man...

The man speaks the truth!

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randyolb@charter.net - 21 Nov 2005 17:37 GMT
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:36:19 -0500, Tweak

> Get a Bose then...

> Great tone and tenor!
> Bass and treble too!

Tod's been listening to Paul Laaar-vae again.

 ; )

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 21 Nov 2005 18:41 GMT
>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:36:19 -0500, Tweak
>
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>
>  ; )

Absolutely!

And *now* you know....

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mike - 22 Nov 2005 04:02 GMT
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:36:19 -0500, Tweak
>
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>
> <vbg>

No highs?

No lows?

It must be Bose.

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Greg Cisko - 21 Nov 2005 19:16 GMT
>> In the last few times I have read this news group I have noticed a lot of
>> off topic junk when I was hoping to find something informative and
>> usefull.
>
> I found the tone and tenor of your message generally unhelpful.

Couldn't have said it better myself! Excellent!

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Tweak - 21 Nov 2005 19:19 GMT
> >> In the last few times I have read this news group I have noticed a lot of
> >> off topic junk when I was hoping to find something informative and
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>
> Couldn't have said it better myself! Excellent!

Nothing like a blast from the past, eh?
;-)
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randyolb@charter.net - 21 Nov 2005 23:34 GMT
> Nothing like a blast from the past, eh?

Blast From The Past: Ringo Starr  1975. Pretty good album too. There's a
photo of Ringo on the cover like the movie poster from The Day the Earth
Stood Still. He's waving from behind the robot.

Randy
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Greg Cisko - 22 Nov 2005 06:46 GMT
> Nothing like a blast from the past, eh?
> ;-)

That is *EXACTLY* right. Now I just need to know who you
are so I can buy you a beer :-)

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Tweak - 23 Nov 2005 13:35 GMT
> > Nothing like a blast from the past, eh?
> > ;-)
>
> That is *EXACTLY* right. Now I just need to know who you
> are so I can buy you a beer :-)

It's no big secret.  Gene would call me Kurdt.
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