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Bruce Sexton - 17 Dec 2005 23:45 GMT
I had to go to my Mom's house to help her out this afternoon with a
"rodent" problem. For several days (and nights) my Mom has been hearing
a "scratching noise" in her attic above her bedroom. I went over to
investigate with my son -- safety in numbers you know -- and while I
was poking around in the attic I stumbled across a box.

At first this seemed like any other box you would find in an attic with
old books, photo albums, etc. But this box was a little different. This
box had over three years worth of "Model Rocketry" magazines stuffed
inside from November 1968 to January/February 1972!

What is even more interesting is that I have almost two of every issue
from January 1971 to January/February 1972. The issues were all mailed
to my home address but there are two distinctly different labels
(different type font and layout). I wonder why I would have gotten two
copies during that time period?

Also, does anyone know/remember if you had to be a member of NAR to get
the "Model Rocketry" magazine? One of the labels just has my name and
address but the other label has the number "9730" in the far left
corner with the letter "R" underneath. Do you think that could be my
old NAR number? If so I would love to get that number back -- please
let me know your thoughts.

Bruce Sexton
NAR #79345 L2
AlMax - 17 Dec 2005 23:58 GMT
For awhile, if you were a NAR member, the NAR mailed you the magazine.

perhapes you had a subscription to MRN, and then joined the NAR, and they
sent it to you as well ?
AlMax - 18 Dec 2005 00:04 GMT
> the "Model Rocketry" magazine? One of the labels just has my name and
> address but the other label has the number "9730" in the far left
> corner with the letter "R" underneath. Do you think that could be my
> old NAR number? If so I would love to get that number back -- please
> let me know your thoughts.

I have an old MRN with the nar number on the label, I would have to say that
is your old nar number.

make a copy of the cover/lable and fax to NAR hq with a request to get it
back.

that is how I got my old one back.
Roy Green - 18 Dec 2005 00:11 GMT
yea, that's probably your NAR # and yea, you probably ordered a subscription
and joined NAR.

If you've got a good scanner you need to scan the issues from September 1971
to JanFeb 72, and send the scans to Sven at Ninfinger.org.
sknudson<at>austin.rr.com

Roy
nar12605

>I had to go to my Mom's house to help her out this afternoon with a
> "rodent" problem. For several days (and nights) my Mom has been hearing
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Bruce Sexton
> NAR #79345 L2
randyolb@charter.net - 18 Dec 2005 01:23 GMT
> If you've got a good scanner you need to scan the issues from September 1971
> to JanFeb 72, and send the scans to Sven at Ninfinger.org.
> sknudson<at>austin.rr.com

ABSOLUTELY!

If you don't have a scanner, find someone that does or try at work but it
would be greatly appreciated by your fellow rocketeers if you would do that.

Randy
www.vernarockets.com
Bruce Sexton - 18 Dec 2005 02:43 GMT
My daughter happens to be getting a scanner for Christmas -- now I'll have
something to "test" to see if it works...

> ABSOLUTELY!
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Randy
> www.vernarockets.com
shockwaveriderz - 18 Dec 2005 03:01 GMT
roy:

I did this recently (past month) for Sven and sent him a cdrom with the
issues in questions as .pdf witheach individual page as a .jpg... he should
be posting them as he has time to. thanks to Harry S. in Dallas for
providing them for me to scan.

shockie B)

> yea, that's probably your NAR # and yea, you probably ordered a
> subscription and joined NAR.
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>> Bruce Sexton
>> NAR #79345 L2
Roy Green - 18 Dec 2005 22:45 GMT
Cool!  So AlMax, you're off the hook!

Roy
nar12605

> roy:
>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>>> Bruce Sexton
>>> NAR #79345 L2
Roy Green - 19 Dec 2005 06:01 GMT
OOPS, I meant Bruce.

> Cool!  So AlMax, you're off the hook!
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> shockie B)
Bill Eichelberger - 20 Dec 2005 09:00 GMT
You mean "Would you mind scanning the issues from September 1971 to
JanFeb 72", don't you?
BTW Bruce, would you mind?
Roy Green - 20 Dec 2005 18:04 GMT
No, sometimes you got to put your foot down to get anything done!  Save the
niceties for the congrats!

Roy (slave driver)

> You mean "Would you mind scanning the issues from September 1971 to
> JanFeb 72", don't you?
> BTW Bruce, would you mind?
Bruce Sexton - 20 Dec 2005 23:24 GMT
I believe Shockie posted that he has already scanned those issues and sent
them on their merry way...

> You mean "Would you mind scanning the issues from September 1971 to
> JanFeb 72", don't you?
> BTW Bruce, would you mind?
K Cornelius - 18 Dec 2005 00:33 GMT
"Bruce Sexton" <bsexton@att.net> wrote ....
>I had to go to my Mom's house to help her out this afternoon with a
> "rodent" problem. For several days (and nights) my Mom has been hearing
> a "scratching noise" in her attic above her bedroom.
--------------------
Nice find!

I wonder though....did you and your son sit down and read every page, and
did you find the source of the 'scratching' noise?

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K Cornelius

Bruce Sexton - 18 Dec 2005 01:48 GMT
Never did find the source of the "scratching noise" -- no signs of chewing,
nesting or anything else. I did however put out a few traps...

As to the reading, that is what I'm doing right now -- what a "blast from
the past".

> --------------------
> Nice find!
>
> I wonder though....did you and your son sit down and read every page, and
> did you find the source of the 'scratching' noise?
randyolb@charter.net - 18 Dec 2005 02:55 GMT
> Never did find the source of the "scratching noise" -- no signs of chewing,
> nesting or anything else. I did however put out a few traps...

My mom had a similar problem last year. It was a squirrel storing acorns in
the insulation.

Randy
www.vernarockets.com
Bruce Sexton - 18 Dec 2005 02:07 GMT
Upon further inspection it looks like they may have cut too close to the
left edge of the mailing labels. I was a "JR" member at that time and upon
closer inspection I found one label that has part of a "J" and it looks like
the number "1" might be to the left of my NAR number. Also, there was a
single number at the bottom left of the label that looks like it might have
been two digits (the year I was born). So what would make more sense -- an
NAR number of 9730 or 19730 in the year 1971?

> Also, does anyone know/remember if you had to be a member of NAR to get
> the "Model Rocketry" magazine? One of the labels just has my name and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Bruce Sexton
> NAR #79345 L2
AlMax - 18 Dec 2005 02:23 GMT
> Upon further inspection it looks like they may have cut too close to the
> left edge of the mailing labels. I was a "JR" member at that time and upon
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> been two digits (the year I was born). So what would make more sense -- an
> NAR number of 9730 or 19730 in the year 1971?

19730 would be just about right.
Bob Kaplow - 18 Dec 2005 02:53 GMT
> Upon further inspection it looks like they may have cut too close to the
> left edge of the mailing labels. I was a "JR" member at that time and upon
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> been two digits (the year I was born). So what would make more sense -- an
> NAR number of 9730 or 19730 in the year 1971?

For 1971 I'd say 19730. I joined in 1969 and they were already into 5 digit
numbers. IIRC 19730 would be pretty close to Buny's number, ask him when he
joined.

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shockwaveriderz - 18 Dec 2005 03:03 GMT
I joined in 70 as 16158..

shockie B)

> Upon further inspection it looks like they may have cut too close to the
> left edge of the mailing labels. I was a "JR" member at that time and upon
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> Bruce Sexton
>> NAR #79345 L2
Bruce Sexton - 27 Dec 2005 13:14 GMT
Marie at NAR headquarters has re-issued my membership card with my old NAR
number -- 19730. Thanks for everyone's input!

> Upon further inspection it looks like they may have cut too close to the
> left edge of the mailing labels. I was a "JR" member at that time and upon
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> have been two digits (the year I was born). So what would make more
> sense -- an NAR number of 9730 or 19730 in the year 1971?
Bob Kaplow - 14 Jan 2006 20:47 GMT
> Marie at NAR headquarters has re-issued my membership card with my old NAR
> number -- 19730. Thanks for everyone's input!

I checked into this. I was under the impression that they had no records of
old membership numbers prior to computerizing in the mid 80s. Turns out
there is an old paper record, but it's in numerical order. So they can't
search it for your name, but if you do know your old number, they can verify
it.

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Jerry Irvine - 16 Jan 2006 23:01 GMT
> > Marie at NAR headquarters has re-issued my membership card with my old NAR
> > number -- 19730. Thanks for everyone's input!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> search it for your name, but if you do know your old number, they can verify
> it.

With all the people here with too much time on their hands, someone
should TYPE the name and number records into a database.

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Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net>
Please bring GROWTH back to consumer rocketry.
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Bruce Sexton - 20 Dec 2005 23:34 GMT
An interesting side note -- while thumbing through my new/old magazines I
came across an article (a series in fact) in the August 1969 issues entitled
"An Accelerometer Module for Transmitter Applications" by Richard Q. Fox.
What makes this article a little more interesting than most is that tucked
inside the issue was a letter addressed to me from Mr. Fox. My good friend
and I had actually built said transmitter and some of the modules discussed
in the previous articles. Evidently I had a question about the
"Accelerometer" and had written a letter for clarification to the magazine.
They in turn forwarded it the Mr. Fox who was kind enough to write me and
point out some discrepancies in the published article (incorrect drawing and
missing parts list). It was certainly nice of Mr. Fox to take the time to
write me and I find it interesting that Model Rocketry never made a
correction to the article - at least not that I can find.

Anyone know if Richard Q. Fox is still alive and active in the hobby?
shockwaveriderz - 21 Dec 2005 00:03 GMT
bruce;
I corresponded with mr. fox via email several years ago. He was in florida
then.
So hes alive but I don;t know if he active in the hobby or not.

shockie B)

> An interesting side note -- while thumbing through my new/old magazines I
> came across an article (a series in fact) in the August 1969 issues
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Anyone know if Richard Q. Fox is still alive and active in the hobby?
Jerry Irvine - 21 Dec 2005 01:08 GMT
In article
<sy0qf.322368$zb5.309488@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

> An interesting side note -- while thumbing through my new/old magazines I
> came across an article (a series in fact) in the August 1969 issues entitled
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Anyone know if Richard Q. Fox is still alive and active in the hobby?

That letter should be added to the magazine archive.

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Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net>
Please bring GROWTH back to consumer rocketry.
Produce then publish.  http://www.usrockets.com

Bruce Sexton - 21 Dec 2005 01:32 GMT
I would be happy to contribute the letter to the archives if there is an
interest.

> That letter should be added to the magazine archive.
Alan Jones - 21 Dec 2005 02:31 GMT
>An interesting side note -- while thumbing through my new/old magazines I
>came across an article (a series in fact) in the August 1969 issues entitled
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>and I had actually built said transmitter and some of the modules discussed
>in the previous articles.

I particularly liked the mouse heart and breathing rate articles.
The only Foxmitter I ever built and flew was the mini-mitter.

Alan
Bruce Sexton - 21 Dec 2005 23:36 GMT
> I particularly liked the mouse heart and breathing rate articles.
> The only Foxmitter I ever built and flew was the mini-mitter.
>
> Alan

Which issue was that information in? My friend and I tried to incorporate
the "mouse" module into a high school biology project. We did launch a
rodent with the electronics but we never could get the sensors to work
properly.

Bruce
shockwaveriderz - 22 Dec 2005 00:23 GMT
bruce:

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/ModelRocketry/Model_Rocketry_v03n01_10-70.pdf

shockie B)

>> I particularly liked the mouse heart and breathing rate articles.
>> The only Foxmitter I ever built and flew was the mini-mitter.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Bruce
Bruce Sexton - 22 Dec 2005 00:40 GMT
I wasn't clear -- I meant the reference to the mouse heart and breathing
rate article. Also would you mind emailing me off-line your last known email
address for Mr. Fox? -- Thanks!

> bruce:
>
> http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/ModelRocketry/Model_Rocketry_v03n01_10-70.pdf
>
> shockie B)
Josephfromri@yahoo.com - 26 Dec 2005 15:59 GMT
There was a Richard Q. Fox in the plane that hit the North Tower on
September 11th
Bruce Sexton - 27 Dec 2005 13:12 GMT
Don't believe this is the same Mr. Fox. The gentleman that wrote the
articles for Model Rocketry magazine in 1969/1970 is alive and well living
in Florida.

> There was a Richard Q. Fox in the plane that hit the North Tower on
> September 11th
 
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