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Nostalgia Time: Looking for info about launch pad

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bbartick@us.nomura.com - 14 Jan 2006 15:21 GMT
While searching the Internet for something totally unrelated to model
rockets I happen to stumble onto this site. Reading through some of the
posts brought back numerous memories when I flew model rockets probably
30 years ago. At the time, I seem to recall having a launch pad that
was basically a yellow piece of plastic with a steel rod, metal
defector, etc that attached to the top of a double sided 6 volt
battery. Does this possibly ring a bell to any of the modelers on this
list? Does anyone still remember who made this launch pad and even
possibly point me to a picture of one?

Thanks,

Brett
David Erbas-White - 14 Jan 2006 16:55 GMT
Centuri Power Pad.  I think I have one somewhere in storage, but I'm
afraid I don't have a photo available.

David Erbas-White

>While searching the Internet for something totally unrelated to model
>rockets I happen to stumble onto this site. Reading through some of the
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the notorious t-e-d - 14 Jan 2006 17:32 GMT
Yup, Cunturi had that but Estes also had similar version.  IIRC it was
with the Challenger starter set.

Ted Novak
TRA#5512
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> Centuri Power Pad.  I think I have one somewhere in storage, but I'm
> afraid I don't have a photo available.
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bbartick@us.nomura.com - 23 Jan 2006 00:06 GMT
WoW. That's it! I can't believe it's been almost 30 years since I've
launched a bunch of rockets that pad. I was speaking to my brother this
past weekend, and I mentioned that I think it would be fun to launch a
couple of rockets for the sake of some nostalgia. He thinks he might
actually still have my Centuri Powr Pad along with some of my rockets,
including some of my favorites, the Centuri SST Shuttle, Estes
Andromeda and Nilke-X.
I found the rockets FAQ and it made for some interesting reading. From
what I seem to recall, a lot has changed. The mid-power and high-power
rocketry seems very fascinating. Lots of interesting companies with web
presence also, like LOC-Precision, Launch Pad, Public Missle, etc. All
very cool. I think I'm going to order one of these mid-power scale
rocket kits and give it a whirl.
Now, doing a little research on the web, it seems as though a number of
people just make their own launch pad using a camera tripod and a
keyless drill chuck. Not that I really need it, but I've seen reference
to an old article called Tripod Mount Launch Pad" design in "Sport
Rocketry" (p. 20). by Bruce Levison.
Would anyone have a link to where I could find and read that article?

Thanks

brett
Fred Shecter - 23 Jan 2006 14:27 GMT
Tripods have a notoriously high center of gravity and will tip over in a breeze or if
there is side load (like when the rocket 'twangs" the rod).

You are much better off with a low center of gravity launch pad made from wood boards or
PVC pipe.

Use a large blast deflector. Large ceramic tile is great. Cheap and easy to replace if it
cracks.

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Bob Kaplow - 23 Jan 2006 20:12 GMT
> Tripods have a notoriously high center of gravity and will tip over in a breeze or if
> there is side load (like when the rocket 'twangs" the rod).

You should find a tripod that's older than you. That's what I used to use
for my tower until someone broke the pan head at NARAM-21. It was solid
enough to hold a 3' tower horizontally without tipping over. They don't make
them like that any more.

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Roland - 14 Jan 2006 17:30 GMT
> battery. Does this possibly ring a bell to any of the modelers on this
> list? Does anyone still remember who made this launch pad and even
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> Brett

Try this for a picture. Centuri and estes catalogs that go waaay back.

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/rockets.html
Bill Eichelberger - 15 Jan 2006 14:21 GMT
http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/catalogs/centuri74/74cena.html
Doug Sams - 15 Jan 2006 16:35 GMT
> http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/rockets/catalogs/centuri74/74cena.html

Bill,

Didn't you say the other day (perhaps on another forum) that you had one
of these but the terminals didn't line up with the battery you had?
Looking at the pic, the PowrPad calls for a 6V lantern battery.  But all
the batteries I've seen in that form factor have always been 12V.

EG,
http://www.radioshack.com/sm-eveready-12v-heavy-duty-replacement-lantern-battery
--pi-2104682.html


All the 6V lantern batteries I'm used to seeing have square tops
(2.6"x2.6"x4").  From the Centuri page, there were apparently 6V
batteries in that larger size as well.  I'm wondering if maybe they were
manufactured with the terminals in slightly different positions to keep
folks from inadvertently connecting the wrong voltage (although using
12V is usually an improvement in rocket launchers).

Is that it?  You think that's why your battery won't mate with your
launcher?

Doug
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Doug Sams - 15 Jan 2006 17:19 GMT
I wrote:

> From the Centuri page, there were apparently 6V
> batteries in that larger size as well.  

Here's what I found after Googling for a while:

It's an ANSI or NEDA 918, also known as an IEC 4R25-2 (The -2 is very
important.)

Vendor in the UK has them:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Free_UK_Delivery/6V_Heavy_Duty_Lantern_Battery_31493/6V_
Heavy_Duty_Lantern_Battery_31493.htm


http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=31493&TabID=1&C=SEO&U=StaticPages&d
oy=search&MenuName=6V%20HEAVY%20DUTY%20LANTERN%20BATTERY


HTH.
Doug
Doug Sams - 15 Jan 2006 17:56 GMT
I wrote:

> Didn't you say the other day (perhaps on another forum) that you had one
> of these but the terminals didn't line up with the battery you had?
<snip>
> I'm wondering if maybe they were manufactured with the terminals in
> slightly different...

Here, I found the mechanical drawings on the web.

http://home.flash.net/~samily/stuff/732.pdf  (12V)
http://home.flash.net/~samily/stuff/ZB66.pdf  (6V)

About 10mm (.4") of difference in the terminal spacing, but the
batteries are otherwise very close dimensionally.

Doug
Bill Eichelberger - 17 Jan 2006 07:39 GMT
Looks like that's what I'm up against.  The 6V dimensions look to be
perfect.  I dug the launcher and battery out last night, but I haven't
had time to look it over except to notice that it's an Eveready
battery.  I'll take some pics and post them at YORF later this week.
Doug Sams - 17 Jan 2006 13:06 GMT
> Looks like that's what I'm up against.  The 6V dimensions look to be
> perfect.  I dug the launcher and battery out last night, but I haven't
> had time to look it over except to notice that it's an Eveready
> battery.  I'll take some pics and post them at YORF later this week.

Hi, Bill,

Here's another source, this one in the States.  Bill Richardson
sent it to me:

> They make a 6 volt in that form also
> Check out  http://www.cheapbatteries.com/lantern.htm
> Scroll down to Energizer Alkaline 6V screw top Double Size #EV521

It looks to be just right.

Doug
ChuckW - 18 Jan 2006 02:26 GMT
I got 6v batteries for my five Powr-Pads from Batteries Plus.  I had
to paint them red and white to look right but they are the exact
dimensions for the launcher.

The Powr-Pads were a gift from the wife.  Bless her.

Chuck W
Sharc, NAR Section 613
www.flysharc.org

Sharc, the section where two out of three certification flights always work just fine!
 
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