Model Forum / General / Rockets / January 2006

Putting aside your spew above, yes, I would prefer a national ID.  The
Feds already i issue SS cards, they could just as well issue national
ID cards, ideally with biometrics, and fully fund it, including
database access to states, businesses, and individual citizens.
Actually I'd rather do away with the ID card and just use a thumb
print, or similar biometric, instead of the card, although that may
not be possible.  Let a state's drivers license be just that. And
absolutely stop unfunded and underfunded mandates.

I find it repugnant that I can be stopped without probable cause and be
required to prove my identity.  This is, at the very least,
unreasonable search and seizure.  Where will this erosion of basic
liberty stop?  Definitely not at sobriety checkpoints.

The constitutional right to travel within and between the states is
long established in law and precedent.  Why then must we get the
state's permission to operate our mode of travel?  This is one step
away from requiring citizens to carry internal passports.

Of course.  Good Jews have nothing to fear from the Reich.
When they came for the Jews I didn't care because I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for the communists I didn't care because I wasn't a
communist.
When they came for the artists I didn't care because I wasn't an
artist.
When they came for the queers I didn't care because I wasn't queer.
Then they came for me, and there was nobody left to care.
(I paraphrase this.  Does anybody know the original quote and source?)

I don't call anybody a bigot.  Their own actions will prove or disprove
that.

I can claim dual citizenship since my grandmother was born in Ireland.
Maybe I can do a Tip O'Neil and get an Irish passport.  Then I can
travel freely in the EU.

Incidently, you don't need a passport to enter either Mexico or Canada.
The nice folks there will greet you with or without papers.  And if
you need papers they will be happy to sell them to you.  You will need
a passport to get back into the USA.

Bill Sullivan

"Round up the usual suspects."  -Louis Renault, Casablanca

Me too.  Um, well, except for Paul Harvey.  He knows *everything*...

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I think He meant *famous* entertainers.

True, his first attempt (the Court Reform bill) failed.  But he did name
eight justices to the court and that court did uphold most of his New
Deal program.  In fact the FDR court may have been the beginning of the
end for the constitution as originally drafted.  Wickard v. Filburn
defined the commerce act broadly and effectively granted the Federal
Government the type of power that the founding fathers were so concerned
about.  This from a liberal Democrat the press compared to Hitler in
dictitorial asperation.  His administration changed the balance of
power.  Or perhaps it was DURING his administration that Congress
abdicated THEIR responsibility to balance the other two branches.

How many of FDR's nominees were rejected by the Senate?

Myself, I prefer Breast

Hey Me,

Ask the liberal fools, why we didn't hear the outrage when Bill "Cigar
into Monica's rectum, because she was on her period" Clinton had
project, Echelon Spy Network in full force ... look the listening isn't
going to stop and I certanly have nothing to hide.

And what is MOST telling and shows the stupidity/ignorace of the COMMON
citizen, is that a friggin TELEMARKETOR has MORE info about the
individual citizen than does the feds.  Very friggin funny ... the sky
is falling the sky is falling ... wait hold on, some joker is trying to
sell me a platinum credit card over the phone, or a great realistate
investment ... well what most of you SHOULD be worrying about is if
your social security number is on the net.  You should be worrying if
your credit card number, drivers license, date of birth, mothers maiden
name, driving record, cell phone record, last website visited, cameras
in your neighborhood, medical history, ect. is public knowlege ... get
the picture?

There are entities out there far more sinister, who will likely screw
you in some way far more personal than the feds.  Think about it, do
the feds REALLY care if you are cheating on your wife?  Do they REALLY
care if you are into phone sex?  Do they REALLY care if you are hiding
money from your wife or kids?  What the feds and this program is really
about are people who in the name of Motherf**king Allah, would fly a
plane load of civilians into a building killing thousands.  I am all
for the feds listening into my phone calls ... as it inflates my ego
and gives false importance to my calls to the local Chinese resturant
for home delivery.

Basically, if a Dem does it, its good and for the Children ... if a
Republican does its, its big buisness, white racist, anti-environment
greed ... NO WONDER THE DEMS ARE THE MINORITY POWER IN D.C. today.

P.s.  Rights are the RESPONCIBLITY of the citizen.  If we are too lazy
and dumb assed to stop tyranny, we deserve all that we receive.  So
next time you get mad at the feds, get mad at yourself a little,
because you and millions of other Americans allow this crap to go on
day after day, month after month, year after year ...

Shhhh!  The government under Bush is planning to kidnap Bob Kaplow,
kill him, burn him to ashes, and use his ashes as wadding.  SHHHHH!
Kaplow is right ... there is a government listening device in EVERY
mailbox :)

Actually in the 60s before the 68 dem convention; The feds were listening to
all radicals via all means.

Thanks to the Borman Team going round the moon to make '68 finally a year
that didn't suck.