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Delta IV to Discontinue if EELV'a merge

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RocketEngineer - 23 Jan 2006 19:32 GMT
   Reports are surfacing at www.usspacenews.com that Boing is
considering canceling the Delta IV  should a EEELV merger take place.
This would leave the  Atlas 5 and the future CLV as the means to LEO.
One positive possibility is that SpaceX will create the Falcon 9. Which
fills the gap the Delta's demise would create and at a much lower price
tag.

Those of you modeling the Delta's get you data now before she haw pass
into the past. For Rocketdyne the push will be to fly the RS-69  as a
second stage engine on the CLV or as a cluster on the new Moon booster.
Seems the SSME is pretty expensive to fly as a throwaway engine and
NASA is looking for a lower cost option.

Dave Ketchledge

PS   Home Land Security  should not be part of our lives unless we fly
on commerical aircraft. This President  and his Dad  did more damage to
the electric power industry thru the creation of Enron than most of you
know. Deregulation  created the S&L mess, the airline industry mess,
and cost Illinois half its nuclear power work force.  In the end
Excelon got a whole lot bigger.

So after  all this deregulation junk brtought toi us by the
conservatives and thier lobbyist buddies I'm voting them out of office.
Mr. Rove and Condilissa can pack thier bags. I'd rather see General
Powell and John McCain in office. Why.... because they are VETERAN's
and  have a real sense of honor , duty and country. This sitting idot
in the White House  has been the worst I have seen since LBJ.   Keep it
up Pat Robertson, you are the absoulte proof  that religon and
government are a bad mix. I want my daugthers to have the same RIGHTS
that I have and to know SCIENCE. LLets face it the Asian and Germans
hav3e a better school system then we do and as a society press strongly
on technology, do you think China will be different, I doubt that.  The
choices we make today effect this country 20-30 years into the future.
And I fail to see the conservatives as being well balanced. In Pat's
case ,fanatical.
Alex Mericas - 23 Jan 2006 21:17 GMT
I'm sure you miss the irony of calling someone an idiot using grammar
and spelling below the 5th grade level.

> and  have a real sense of honor , duty and country. This sitting idot
> in the White House  has been the worst I have seen since LBJ.   Keep it
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> And I fail to see the conservatives as being well balanced. In Pat's
> case ,fanatical.

Don't paint all conservatives with the same brush.  I'm sure all
liberals are not socialist pacifists.  Personally I think religion and
science are compatible.  I have no problem with evolution.  I don't have
a problem with most of the big-bang theory.  Time zero is still a bit
puzzling.  I would rather my kids be exposed to different ideas and
teach them to question "conventional wisdom".  That means understanding
all sides of issues like abortion, creationism, and personal
responsibility.  At some point they're going to make up their own minds
anyway.  The best I can do is give them the skills to make an educated
decision instead of a purely emotional one. But exposing children to
religions is very scary to some people.  One of the best courses I took
in High School was "religions of the world".  It concentrated on the
similarities instead of the differences.  Too bad that concept is not
very popular today.  But it is something I hope my children will learn
to appreciate.   Oh, and I've taught them how to spell check their email ;-)
Tweak - 23 Jan 2006 21:27 GMT
> I'm sure you miss the irony of calling someone an idiot using grammar
> and spelling below the 5th grade level.

Correction:  That would be an "idot", whatever that may be.

> > and  have a real sense of honor , duty and country. This sitting idot

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hiltyt@weinerboy.org - 23 Jan 2006 23:09 GMT
>> I'm sure you miss the irony of calling someone an idiot using grammar
>> and spelling below the 5th grade level.
>
>Correction:  That would be an "idot", whatever that may be.
>>
>> > and  have a real sense of honor , duty and country. This sitting idot

And finally, after years of careful observation:

>    Reports are surfacing at www.usspacenews.com that Boing is

*Somebody* finally dropped the "e" from Boeing...

I was really hoping Shecter, or Bloom would do it...

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randyolb@charter.net - 24 Jan 2006 01:39 GMT
After the latest performance, Tod said....

> I was really hoping Shecter, or Bloom would do it...

To which I replied ... "They don't work on pilot series."

Randy
www.vernarockets.com
Tweak - 24 Jan 2006 15:02 GMT
> >> I'm sure you miss the irony of calling someone an idiot using grammar
> >> and spelling below the 5th grade level.
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>
> *Somebody* finally dropped the "e" from Boeing...

Boing.  Has a certain springiness to it, does it not?  Or is that a
relative of Bing and Bong?  Perhaps their offspring?
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Tweak

Fred Shecter - 24 Jan 2006 15:18 GMT
Oh no, you are mistaken. They dropped the "o" from the end of "Boingo".

-Shread Vector NRA #1 Paramount Leader

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George Lipka - 24 Jan 2006 15:37 GMT
Your an 'idot', well that explains things

>    Reports are surfacing at www.usspacenews.com that Boing is
> considering canceling the Delta IV  should a EEELV merger take place.
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> And I fail to see the conservatives as being well balanced. In Pat's
> case ,fanatical.
Bob Clark - 25 Jan 2006 00:32 GMT
I think the word you're looking for is "you're", not your.

> Your an 'idot', well that explains things
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Alex Mericas - 25 Jan 2006 00:59 GMT
> on technology, do you think China will be different, I doubt that.  The
> choices we make today effect this country 20-30 years into the future.

Let's see, 30 years ago Jimmy Carter was elected President.  You may be
on to something.  It's all Carter's fault.

In 1981 as the country was pulling out of the economic disaster known as
the Carter Administration I was taking a U.S. Government course in
college taught by a flaming liberal professor.  She claimed that it
takes 4 to 6 years for a President to have any effect on the economy or
society.  The 70's were all Nixon and Ford's fault while the improving
conditions during the early 80's was Mr. Carter's to claim. That makes
most of the last 4 years Clinton's fault.  Certainly the Dot Com
implosion was.

Or perhaps what she meant to say is it takes 4 to 6 years for a Democrat
to have any effect while a Republican can screw things up immediately.
randyolb@charter.net - 25 Jan 2006 02:22 GMT
> Or perhaps what she meant to say is it takes 4 to 6 years for a Democrat
> to have any effect while a Republican can screw things up immediately.

Or maybe they all get more credit  / blame than they deserve.

Randy
www.vernarockets.com
 
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