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Model Forum / General / Rockets / January 2006Regarding Lee Piester
As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. Apparently, he only visits the Glendale store for a few hours each morning. Plus, nobody seems to have an e-mail address or fax number. I'm still trying to reach him. When I do, I will post to the group. FWIW, I understand that Lee will be speaking at NARCON. Steve When I met with him I had to call the store several times to find out when he would be around. And you're right, he is only in one of the stores for a few hours at a time, mostly only one day a week. I was lucky to catch him at all, but he was a great guy to talk to. An employee at one of the other stores told me that Lee doesn't really use computers and is mostly unaware of all the Centuri stuff that is on the Internet. Pictures of me, Lee, all of the Hobby Bench stores, the permission slip Lee wrote me to take pictures in the stores, and the old rockets hanging in said stores are here: http://tinyurl.com/brvmw There's also a picture of the Quest building at the end. Chuck W Sharc, NAR Section 613 www.flysharc.org Sharc, the section where two out of three certification flights always work just fine! Lee is typically at his Glendale store in the mornings. He has 5 Hobby Bench stores. Best way to catch him is to call all 5 and see where he will be at the longest. Then just plan your schedule to wait for him. Lee does know alot about what is going on in the hobby. He asked me one day, which I found more rewarding, R/C Planes or Rockets? I told him R/C planes and he agreed. He told me that he had left rocketry in favor of R/C planes because the regulations were just too difficult. Every month, some state fire marshall would send him letters threatening to shut him down. One year back in the early 70s, Lee and Vern Estes went to a California Fire Marshall conference to plead their case. They stood arms length from each other and launched a rocket sitting between them in an attempt to show the safety with model rockets. After their demo, a CA firemashall, who later retired to become a lobbyist for the pyrotechnics industry, setup a trash can with dozens of motors that had been de-cased and tied together like dynamite. He detonated the whole thing, sending the 50 or so visiting fire marshalls face down in the dirt. Lee and Vern laughed together as all these guys got back up and their suits were covered in soil. Its not that Lee isn't internet savvy, its more that he just doesn't care like you want him to. He has moved on to running hobbyshops, private aircraft (He gives Bill Stine rides every few months), and other interests. When I told him that Arizona/Phoenix might be hosting a NARAM in the next year or two, he had no interest in attending ... but he did discuss the 1/4, 1/3 scale R/C fly-in down in Tucson and his plans to attend that. He will be at that gathering in MInn. later this year, so have your questions well though out in advance, because he really isn't into the rockets anymore and probably won't be accessable in the future ... unless you fly 1/4 or 1/3 scale R/C planes :) He is actually much shorter than you think. I TOWER over him and its really funny looking down at someone who I though of as the 'Wizard of Rocket Oz". He is 5' 6" or so. There is a photo of him standing next to Col. Borman of Apollo 10. They are both the same size and if you remember early astronauts, they all had to be small in stature due to limitations in capsule size. Oh and when I mention Jerry Irvine ... Lee knows EXACTLY what Jerry is ... and most of his history ... so Lee does indeed keep up with current events :) > When I met with him I had to call the store several times to find out > when he would be around. And you're right, he is only in one of the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Sharc, the section where two out of three certification flights always work just fine! yeah vern got out in 69 after only 9 years in the biz and lee got out a couple years later after spending about the same amount of time in the biz.... I guess vern and lee are probably the only two people who made more money in model rocktery then they put into it... shockie B) > Lee is typically at his Glendale store in the mornings. He has 5 Hobby > Bench stores. Best way to catch him is to call all 5 and see where he [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >> Sharc, the section where two out of three certification flights always >> work just fine! Great information! I mostly agree but I guess I need to clarify my earlier statement. It's not that I want Lee to care what's going on in the hobby, I was just pointing out that he didn't know about a lot of the Centuri stuff that is on the web. He's definitely in touch with things; when I last talked to him he asked me about the Aerotech bankruptcy, Leup regs in Georgia (where I am from), and a few other current things. (That's funny about Irvine, Lee commented to me about both Irvine and Cato.) He also told me that RC was where his interest ended up, pointing out several of his RC models that are hanging in his Glendale store. (To any doubters, remember, that's a full-sized biplane over the entrance of the mall Hobby Bench, not a Groove Tube!) What I was trying to say is that he didn't know about resources like JimZ, Semroc, Holverson's site, Moldin' Oldies, and stuff like that. That was my point, not that he's out of touch, he's just not a web junkie like most of us on RMR are. Your comments that his interest is RC now explains why he isn't surfing those particular sites. Lee isn't some rocket messiah or anything, I like him because he started a cool business right out of college and then changed that business to hobby shops and hobby distribution as he saw the business environment changing. He's still running that post-college business today, even though it's a totally different animal than it was back in the '60's. By the way, I highly recommend the Hobby Bench stores. They have a good mix of inventory, including a lot of science kits that are useful for home schoolers. Plus it's fun to see rockets from the old days hanging from the ceiling. Chuck W Sharc, NAR Section 613 www.flysharc.org Sharc, the section where two out of three certification flights always work just fine! > He will be at that gathering in MInn. later this year, so have your > questions well though out in advance, because he really isn't into the > rockets anymore and probably won't be accessable in the future ... We're hosting NARCON 2006 in WI, not MN! http://www.narcon2006.org  SignatureScott D. Hansen WOOSH NAR Section #558 http://www.wooshrocketry.org Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe - Your One Stop BAR Shoppe! http://www.rocketshoppe.com Ye Olde Rocket Plans - OOP Rocket Plans From 20 Companies! http://www.oldrocketplans.com Ye Olde Rocket Forum - http://forums.rocketshoppe.com >>He will be at that gathering in MInn. later this year, so have your >>questions well though out in advance, because he really isn't into the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.narcon2006.org But MN would be a nice place to host it. In particular this week and as of right now it's 50 degrees here :) Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75 >We're hosting NARCON 2006 in WI, not MN! > >http://www.narcon2006.org With all due respect, from this part of the country, they're the same place. 8-) > >We're hosting NARCON 2006 in WI, not MN! > > > >http://www.narcon2006.org > > With all due respect, from this part of the country, they're the same > place. 8-) Not even close! We're not wacky enough to elect an ex-WWF wrestler as Governor! What a bunch of maroons! ;-) SignatureScott D. Hansen WOOSH NAR Section #558 http://www.wooshrocketry.org Ye Olde Rocket Shoppe - Your One Stop BAR Shoppe! http://www.rocketshoppe.com Ye Olde Rocket Plans - OOP Rocket Plans From 20 Companies! http://www.oldrocketplans.com Ye Olde Rocket Forum - http://forums.rocketshoppe.com >>>We're hosting NARCON 2006 in WI, not MN! >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Not even close! We're not wacky enough to elect an ex-WWF wrestler as > Governor! What a bunch of maroons! ;-) Grrrrr, I'm one of those maroons! But considering at the time the quality of those other candidates, it only made sense. That being said.....we *all* regret having that MORON in the office :( It wasn't like he was a bad gov or anything but it was his ego and natural ability to put foot in mouth at any given moment. Think; give a monkey a brain syndrome. Ted 'I'm a navy seal' Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75 > Grrrrr, I'm one of those maroons! But considering at the time the > quality of those other candidates, it only made sense. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > natural ability to put foot in mouth at any given moment. Think; give a > monkey a brain syndrome. I'll trade your idiot former governor for our idiot current governor. Or for our corrupt former governor. SignatureBob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/Document/MayJun00.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org You [should] not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harm it would cause if improperly administered -- Lyndon Johnson, former President of the U.S. >>Grrrrr, I'm one of those maroons! But considering at the time the >>quality of those other candidates, it only made sense. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'll trade your idiot former governor for our idiot current governor. Or for > our corrupt former governor. I have a couple of slightly used senators, what will You give Me for them? > I have a couple of slightly used senators, what will You give Me for them? Depends on what state you're from, and what condition they're in. I could use some dog food... SignatureBob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/Document/MayJun00.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org You [should] not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harm it would cause if improperly administered -- Lyndon Johnson, former President of the U.S. >>I have a couple of slightly used senators, what will You give Me for them? > > Depends on what state you're from, and what condition they're in. I could > use some dog food... Oh, well then, You'll want both Boxer and Feinstein, although the latter is probably kind of tough and stringy, but what the heck, it's only dog food right? Personally, D.C., the District of Criminals really is criminal. Most of the House of Reps. has members with criminal convictions ranging from misdemeanor fraud/bad checks to felony convictions. The FBI has a very hard time keeping up with all the mess, and some Reps. can't sit on committies due to this. Sen Kerry is married to the heiress of the Del Monte food corp, and is worth 60 - 70 million dollars ... Newt needs a loan for a few million dollars, and gets it from a fellow senator, Mcainiac here in AZ is selling his multimillion $ home ... he just reduced the price from $4.25 mil down to just $3.75 mil ... my, public service SURE does pay! And Ted Kennedy is out screwing and drinking, kills a girl, delays reporting the crime (accident) for at least a day, and walks ... now we ALL know if you the reader of this posting were the one ... well you know :/ Yes, government crime DOES pay! > I have a couple of slightly used senators, what will You give Me for them? Watch it Bob. Someone will try to unload Ted Kennedy on you! ; ) Randy www.vernarockets.com >> I have a couple of slightly used senators, what will You give Me for them? > > Watch it Bob. Someone will try to unload Ted Kennedy on you! ; ) Maybe we could encourage political car pools. Teddy's car is more dangerous than our hobby... SignatureBob Kaplow NAR # 18L >>> To reply, there's no internet on Mars (yet)! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/Document/MayJun00.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Homeland Security Administration: The Gestapo of the 21st Century > Maybe we could encourage political car pools. Teddy's car is more dangerous > than our hobby... ROFL! Randy www.vernarockets.com > >>Grrrrr, I'm one of those maroons! But considering at the time the > >>quality of those other candidates, it only made sense. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I have a couple of slightly used senators, what will You give Me for them? How much will you charge to take Santorum off our hands? I still sort of like Specter, but I wouldn't buy ammunition from him. Bill Sullivan >>>>Grrrrr, I'm one of those maroons! But considering at the time the >>>>quality of those other candidates, it only made sense. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Bill Sullivan Maybe if We lock up all the unwanted senators in a room with no food, eventually, Ted Kennedy will eat all the rest of them. Mary Jo Kopechne: "Oh, Sen. Kennedy,I...I can't do THAT...besides, what if I get pregnant?" Sen. Ted Kennedy: "Er..uh, don't worry, dear...we'll cross that bridge when we get to it!" <snip> > How much will you charge to take Santorum off our hands? I'll give you three bucks and a case of Ding-Dongs(tm). TK SignatureCogito ergo bibo > <snip> > > How much will you charge to take Santorum off our hands? > > I'll give you three bucks and a case of Ding-Dongs(tm). SOLD! Bill Sullivan The worst part about being a curmudgeon is seeing all of your dire predictions of disaster come true. >That being said.....we *all* regret having that MORON in the office :( >It wasn't like he was a bad gov or anything but it was his ego and >natural ability to put foot in mouth at any given moment. Think; give a >monkey a brain syndrome. With those qualifications, maybe he'll run for president. Phil, According to the History Channel's Secret Organizations that aired last night, in order to be president, you have to be a member of the 'Skull and Bones Society', or a member of the Tri-lateral Commission, or Council on Foriegn Relations. It would DEFINATELY help to be a Freemason. Now what secret society does one need to be a President of NAR or TRA? I'm sure Jerry knows ... he wouldn't go along with their plans for global domination, so they made up about 30 years of criminal reports on Jerry and spread these false rumors to drive Jerry under ground ... but as the popes of Europe learned, you can't keep truth buried for ever! > Phil, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Tri-lateral Commission, or Council on Foriegn Relations. > It would DEFINATELY help to be a Freemason. It doesn't really matter. The Ten or Twelve Guys Who Really Run Things formed these so-called "secret" societies to distract us from their actual machinations. They discovered long ago that they are most effective when working behind the scenes. All government is actually a sham to delude the general public into believing that it actually has some control over its own fate. The Ten or Twelve Guys Who Really Run Things operate clandestinely. Once one of them actually becomes a public figure, they are no longer effective. This is what happened to Dick Cheney. Once he actually assumed a position of supposed power in the US Government he could no longer function as one of the Ten or Twelve Guys Who Really Run Things. Now where the hell is the med cart? Bill Sullivan > It doesn't really matter. The Ten or Twelve Guys Who Really Run Things > formed these so-called "secret" societies Ok, so we are talking about C.G.B. Spender after all. ; ) Randy www.vernarockets.com > > >We're hosting NARCON 2006 in WI, not MN! > > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Not even close! We're not wacky enough to elect an ex-WWF wrestler as > Governor! What a bunch of maroons! ;-) But who do WE have Scott? Perhaps the ex-WWF wrestler wasn't so bad.. > When I met with him I had to call the store several times to find out > when he would be around. And you're right, he is only in one of the > stores for a few hours at a time, mostly only one day a week. When in my Jan./Feb. 2003 "SpRocketry" article on Lee, I wrote something to the effect of, "Lee Piester 'works hard for the money' ...14 to 18 hours a day," I *wasn't* kidding. ;-D Cheers, --Jay Goemmer "Centuri Guy" Twin Falls, Idaho, USA >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Steve >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Steve Nice job Steve. Is there anything you have set out to do that you've actually accomplished? > >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up > >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Nice job Steve. Is there anything you have set out to do that you've > actually accomplished? Post trash to rmr. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring GROWTH back to consumer rocketry. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com >>>As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up >>>with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Post trash to rmr. Wait,... that's your accomplishment jerry, what We want is to hear about steve's accomplishments. >>>> As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up >>>> with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Wait,... that's your accomplishment jerry, what We want is to hear about > steve's accomplishments. Although, I suppose they could be the same. > >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up > >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Nice job Steve. Is there anything you have set out to do that you've > actually accomplished? f.ck off, Jew-boy. > > >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up > > >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > f.ck off, Jew-boy. You really are an A$$-hole.. > > > >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up > > > >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > You really are an A$$-hole.. I was waiting for that Fred-O. Lest you think I'm an anti-Semite, I'm not. There's only one Jew in the world that I hate, and that's Phil. Glad you think I'm an a.shole. If you didn't, it would reduce my credibility with the rest of the world. Steve > > > > >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up > > > > >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Steve Glad to perpetuate fact in evidence..(:-) >If you didn't, it would reduce my >credibility with the rest of the world. Why don't you come up with something original? I just used that one. I give you credit for trying to learn from me but forget it. I just can't keep up. SO what have you acconplished this week - aside from repeating what I've said. Phil, If I were running Team America, I would vote you on the team! I just HATE actors ... and no, I won't explain why! LOL >> >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up >> >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >f.ck off, Jew-boy. I've heard that one from better a.sholes than you. Can't you come up with anything original or at least try to be a better a.shole? > >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up > >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Nice job Steve. Is there anything you have set out to do that you've > actually accomplished? By the way, Phil, speaking of accomplishments, when is PARA getting that new launch system that you've been promising for the past 5 years, or is it 6 years now? > > >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up > > >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > that new launch system that you've been promising for the past 5 years, > or is it 6 years now? When HPR magazine gets back on schedule :) SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring GROWTH back to consumer rocketry. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com >>By the way, Phil, speaking of accomplishments, when is PARA getting >>that new launch system that you've been promising for the past 5 years, >>or is it 6 years now? > > When HPR magazine gets back on schedule :) ...and jerry makes good on ALL his prize promises from over the years. >>>By the way, Phil, speaking of accomplishments, when is PARA getting >>>that new launch system that you've been promising for the past 5 years, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >...and jerry makes good on ALL his prize promises from over the years. Jerry - Here's a challenge for you. Make good on your commitments before Bruce Kelly makes good on HPR. I suspect that you won't have to rush to get it done but you would still be able to claim you did and BKdidn't - priceless. >> >As I have already told some people privately, I was unable to catch up >> >with Lee Piester while I was in Arizona. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >that new launch system that you've been promising for the past 5 years, >or is it 6 years now? When it's done. It's not like anyone has offered to help. It'll be done when it's done. THe old one is working fine - if you have good ignitors. If you don't, nothing is going to help. |
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