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Apogee Recording Altimeter

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RocketEngineer - 18 Apr 2006 00:57 GMT
I'm interested in buying a new altimeter and noticed thge Apogee unit
records for up to 5 minutes. ANyone have used one out there ?

Dave Ketchledge
Brian White - 18 Apr 2006 02:08 GMT
> I'm interested in buying a new altimeter and noticed thge Apogee unit
> records for up to 5 minutes. ANyone have used one out there ?
>
> Dave Ketchledge

   
No, but I have used the Alt15K/WD logging altimeter (no deployment)works
great.

See also http://www.perfectflite.com/

Yes it's the same altimeter

BW
Cranny Dane - 18 Apr 2006 02:38 GMT
> I'm interested in buying a new altimeter and noticed thge Apogee unit
> records for up to 5 minutes. ANyone have used one out there ?
>
> Dave Ketchledge

Hi Dave, Apogee is just a reseller of the PerfectFlite 15K altimeter.

BTW, they work great
Cliff Sojourner - 18 Apr 2006 07:33 GMT
> I'm interested in buying a new altimeter and noticed thge Apogee unit
> records for up to 5 minutes. ANyone have used one out there ?
>
> Dave Ketchledge

Dave, I launched one in my LOC Weasel clone on H73, Saturday ...  the
altimeter read 3115'.  my rocksim says 3135'.  I'd say that's close
enough!  now I have a calibrated rocksim and I am going to for exactly a
mile.
nitram578 - 18 Apr 2006 14:24 GMT
Is 5345' close enough to a mile?  I can tell you how I did it very simply.

>> I'm interested in buying a new altimeter and noticed thge Apogee unit
>> records for up to 5 minutes. ANyone have used one out there ?
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> enough!  now I have a calibrated rocksim and I am going to for exactly a
> mile.
Cliff Sojourner - 20 Apr 2006 09:22 GMT
> Is 5345' close enough to a mile?  I can tell you how I did it very simply.

tell us!
W. E. Fred Wallace - 20 Apr 2006 23:34 GMT
> > Is 5345' close enough to a mile?  I can tell you how I did it very simply.
>
> tell us!

Why??
Larry Curcio - 18 Apr 2006 11:48 GMT
The best recording altimeters, judging from the data, are from
Adept. The data are filtered well enough that one can derive
velocity and acceleration from them - also thrust and Cd
curves with a little extra work in vertical flights. That's a lot
better than the data from other altimeters I've seen. Not
actually familiar with the PerfectFlite.

Regards
-Larry Curcio

> I'm interested in buying a new altimeter and noticed thge Apogee unit
> records for up to 5 minutes. ANyone have used one out there ?
>
> Dave Ketchledge
Cliff Sojourner - 20 Apr 2006 09:23 GMT
> The best recording altimeters, judging from the data, are from
> Adept. The data are filtered well enough that one can derive
> velocity and acceleration from them - also thrust and Cd
> curves with a little extra work in vertical flights. That's a lot
> better than the data from other altimeters I've seen. Not
> actually familiar with the PerfectFlite.

if you really want velocity, accelleration, jerk, buy an altimeter with
an accellerometer.

my PerfectFlites work great but they are barometric only.
I - 20 Apr 2006 12:28 GMT
>> The best recording altimeters, judging from the data, are from
>> Adept. The data are filtered well enough that one can derive
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>
> if you really want velocity, accelleration, jerk, buy an altimeter with an accellerometer.

That was a little uncivil, don't you think?
Steve Humphrey - 20 Apr 2006 12:45 GMT
>> if you really want velocity, accelleration, jerk, buy an altimeter with an accellerometer.
>
> That was a little uncivil, don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerk

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Steve Humphrey
(replace "spambait" with "merlinus" to respond directly to me)

Aaron - 20 Apr 2006 15:42 GMT
> >> if you really want velocity, accelleration, jerk, buy an altimeter with an accellerometer.
> >
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> Steve Humphrey
> (replace "spambait" with "merlinus" to respond directly to me)

I think someone owes me a new keyboard.

You learn something new everyday.

-Aaron
Tweak - 20 Apr 2006 16:06 GMT
> > >> if you really want velocity, accelleration, jerk, buy an altimeter with an accellerometer.
> > >
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>
> -Aaron

'twas well done, indeed.

Bravo!

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Tweak

Cliff Sojourner - 24 Apr 2006 05:12 GMT
>>>The best recording altimeters, judging from the data, are from
>>>Adept. The data are filtered well enough that one can derive
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> That was a little uncivil, don't you think?

oh my goodness!!!  I sure didn't mean it like that!  I was not being
uncivil, the wikipedia entry for jerk is what I meant - 2nd derivative
of velocity.  it made sense when I typed it late at night.

very sorry nad I hope everyone gets a laugh out of this.
Robert DeHate - 29 Apr 2006 20:53 GMT
> very sorry nad I hope everyone gets a laugh out of this.

Who's a 'nad' ???
;-)

RDH8
l - 29 Apr 2006 21:31 GMT
>> very sorry nad I hope everyone gets a laugh out of this.
>
> Who's a 'nad' ???
> ;-)

Yeah, first he calls someone a jerk, now this!

Who does he think he is?      ;-)
Larry Curcio - 29 Apr 2006 21:51 GMT
I assume, by Jerk, you mean the third derivative
of altitude :-)

Adept altimeter data are good enough to be double differentiated
by Savitsky-Golay filters to give acceleration curves. They have
the opposite problem that accelerometers have. They measure
only in the vertical dimension To the extent that the trajectory is
vertical, the acceleration is righteous.

Had thought I'd made a breakthrough with this double differentiation,
but evidently the Adept software does it too.

BTW, I have traditionally been so far in the accelerometer camp that,
as far as I know, Tommy dislikes me. We have no connection whatever.

-Larry (Deriving the jerk could be stretching it) C.

> > The best recording altimeters, judging from the data, are from
> > Adept. The data are filtered well enough that one can derive
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> my PerfectFlites work great but they are barometric only.
 
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