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AeroTech Information Release 7/25/06

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Gary C. Rosenfield - 25 Jul 2006 23:23 GMT
AeroTech Information Release

7/25/06

AeroTech to Introduce New Products at NARAM-48

AeroTech Consumer Aerospace would like to extend an advance invitation to
our customers and dealers attending NARAM-48 in Phoenix, Arizona to share
our excitement as we bring you a number of new product announcements and
flight demonstrations.

AeroTech President Gary Rosenfield will be on hand to meet with NARAM-48
participants and present the new products on Tuesday, August 1st at the
Hampton Inn and Suites hotel, during the traditional NARAM "Manufacturer's
Forum" which begins at 2:30 PM.

More information on NARAM-48 can be found online at:
http://www.sssrocketry.org/default.htm

We look forward to seeing you there!

AeroTech Consumer Aerospace is a division of RCS Rocket Motor Components,
Inc., Cedar City, UT.
Phil Stein - 26 Jul 2006 01:11 GMT
Like a D500-P for boost glider drag races. 8-)

Phil

>AeroTech Information Release
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>AeroTech Consumer Aerospace is a division of RCS Rocket Motor Components,
>Inc., Cedar City, UT.
Phil Stein - 26 Jul 2006 01:21 GMT
Or is that a -0?

Phil

>Like a D500-P for boost glider drag races. 8-)
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>>AeroTech Consumer Aerospace is a division of RCS Rocket Motor Components,
>>Inc., Cedar City, UT.
Aaron - 26 Jul 2006 15:16 GMT
It would have to be -P  I was confused about the warp-9 propellant and
that they were all plugged so I asked a vendor selling them (RedArrow)
He answered that they burn so fast, it creates kind of a vaccum in the
motor and sucks out the delay.  I thought he meant that it snuffs out
the delay while it is burning, but he really meant it pulls the delay
out of the fore closure.  He said he has seen it sometimes made it into
the nozzle.

Now...I would LOVE to see a D500-P but I think it'd be closer to a
D75-P(wild guess at the number) as there is already a G339-P (38mm,
single grain)  It would still shread just about any MPR out there.

-Aaron

> Or is that a -0?
>
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> >>AeroTech Consumer Aerospace is a division of RCS Rocket Motor Components,
> >>Inc., Cedar City, UT.
Phil Stein - 26 Jul 2006 16:20 GMT
First, don't take anything with a 8-) to seriously.

Second, don't BG's usually use a -0 to spit the motor out and to move
the wings into glidining position?

As for tech details or Warp-9, who cares, I was discussing an
imaginary product so anything is possible when it isn't real.

Phil

>It would have to be -P  I was confused about the warp-9 propellant and
>that they were all plugged so I asked a vendor selling them (RedArrow)
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>> >>AeroTech Consumer Aerospace is a division of RCS Rocket Motor Components,
>> >>Inc., Cedar City, UT.
Binder Design - 26 Jul 2006 16:21 GMT
> It would have to be -P  I was confused about the warp-9 propellant and
> that they were all plugged so I asked a vendor selling them (RedArrow)
> He answered that they burn so fast, it creates kind of a vaccum in the
> motor and sucks out the delay.  I thought he meant that it snuffs out
> the delay while it is burning, but he really meant it pulls the delay
> out of the fore closure.

No, that would be impossible.  Motors create pressure, not vacuum.
What is really occurring is that the slower burning delay grain is
getting snuffed out by the abrupt pressure drop at the end of the burn.
This is similar to what happens when a motor chuffs on the pad.

If the delay grain is really pulling out of the forward closure, it is
due to the high g's that this propellant formula can generate in
certain rockets.

Mike Fisher
Binder Design
http://binderdesign.com
Dave Grayvis - 27 Jul 2006 15:22 GMT
>>It would have to be -P  I was confused about the warp-9 propellant and
>>that they were all plugged so I asked a vendor selling them (RedArrow)
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> Binder Design
> http://binderdesign.com

No, it is possible.  At burnout, mass flow exiting the nozzle will
create a momentary vacuum.
Binder Design - 28 Jul 2006 03:18 GMT
> No, it is possible.  At burnout, mass flow exiting the nozzle will
> create a momentary vacuum.<<

I've done and seen lots of pressure testing of rocket motors.  I've
never seen one pull a vacuum at burnout, or anything less than
atmospheric pressure.

Maybe Gary R. could provide some input here.  I know he's seen a fair
share of motor testing.

Mike F.
Brian Elfert - 26 Jul 2006 01:29 GMT
>Like a D500-P for boost glider drag races. 8-)

A paper airplane maybe!  What would the burn time be, .001 seconds?

Brian Elfert
shockwaveriderz - 26 Jul 2006 04:12 GMT
free flight or rc ?

terry dean

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> Like a D500-P for boost glider drag races. 8-)
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>>AeroTech Consumer Aerospace is a division of RCS Rocket Motor Components,
>>Inc., Cedar City, UT.
Alan Jones - 26 Jul 2006 17:39 GMT
>Like a D500-P for boost glider drag races. 8-)
>
>Phil

Howz about a D80-P for us L0 folks. 13mm SU of course.
Cranny Dane - 26 Jul 2006 23:11 GMT
>>Like a D500-P for boost glider drag races. 8-)
>>
>>Phil
>
> Howz about a D80-P for us L0 folks. 13mm SU of course.

Alan, you should go about and get your L1 by now....
Alan Jones - 27 Jul 2006 04:22 GMT
>>>Like a D500-P for boost glider drag races. 8-)
>>>
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>
>Alan, you should go about and get your L1 by now....

I'm not inclined to get L1 certified just for L1's sake.

Maybe if we actually get a D500-P certified...
Naybe when the BATFE rolls over, I'll cert just to celebrate.
 
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