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Kurt - 27 Aug 2006 13:43 GMT
Hi,

I forgot to ask how the glass class went.  How many came?  I'm still doing
things the hard way.  On my 9 foot 4 inch model I used a nylon stocking for
a sock and Environ-Tex lite as the binder. It's two part, not too thick but
really wets the sock nicely.  I am curious if it will hold up to an L-1987.  Am
going to use an extra long coupler in the single coupler joint and am going to
have one of my 1/4" thin centering rings epoxied inside of the coupler and one
of your 3/8" rings actually abutting up against the coupler.  I will have three
of the 3/8" rings and one of the 1/4" ones.  I am also going to use Duralco 4525
epoxy that is actually stronger than J & B Weld on the centering rings and in
securing the engine tube and the couplers to the body tubes.  I might put a
tube coupler just behind where the electronics bay slides into the
booster/drogue tube as sort of a narrow thrust ring.

I know I need to use shear pins for the upper main chute bay and nosecone but
should I use them for the lower drogue bay and the electronics carrier?  I
suspect I just need to make sure I have a not too tight "Will Carney" :-)
type of fit with the drogue bay and not bother with shear pins there.

I have a bunch of sanding left on the three 4 inch tubes and then it is on to
the third coat of the Environ-Tex Lite.  They look so good after two coats, I'm
going to stop at three as that should be more than adequate. I let them cure for
at least two days between coats.

Will spray some white paint on the 24mm today and the Navy later in the week.

                                             Kurt
Planet News - 27 Aug 2006 20:43 GMT
> I forgot to ask how the glass class went.  How many came?  I'm still
> doing things the hard way.  On my 9 foot 4 inch model I used a nylon
> stocking for a sock and Environ-Tex lite as the binder.

I just finished some of the easiest fiberglassing I have ever done.  I
glassed a 2.56" phenolic kit with the Aerosleeves fiberglass sleeve
material.  It was way too easy.

Check out the review at:

   http://www.rocketryplanet.com/content/view/662/38/

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Kurt - 27 Aug 2006 21:40 GMT
>  > I forgot to ask how the glass class went.  How many came?  I'm still
>  > doing things the hard way.  On my 9 foot 4 inch model I used a nylon
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>    http://www.rocketryplanet.com/content/view/662/38/

Thanks,

  I accidentally posted that personal note here but it was a general
thing on tube coating.  I'm actually using a modification of
"Rocket Rik" Boyettes' Quasi-glassing method. Rick uses water soluble
minwax polyurethane to bond a nylon stocking on a tube. He then uses
spackling to seal the weave. This method is to seal a tube and the
spiral and is not necessarily to add strength nor is it advertised for
that. I used the method on a small model and it turned out nice.  A bit
heavy but nice.  I just go to a bigger motor if need be. (How about a
homemade 12", 24mm casing?) :-)
  Instead of spackling I used the epoxy coating product Environ-Tex
lite. Yes I know there are other methods out there and if I go on to a
Level 3 project I will use West Systems or some other mainstream epoxy
for laminating (with a kevlar sleeve or fiberglass)
  I just want to see if this off the self stuff could withstand an
L-1987.  So far after two coats it is looking pretty good.  I have one
more coat to put on the four inch diameter tubes before I can start on
the motor 54mm motor mount.
  Thanks for the pointer to rocketry planet.  I was unaware in existed.

                                      Kurt
Darrell D. Mobley - 28 Aug 2006 01:15 GMT
>   Instead of spackling I used the epoxy coating product Environ-Tex
> lite. Yes I know there are other methods out there and if I go on to a
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> more coat to put on the four inch diameter tubes before I can start on
> the motor 54mm motor mount.

I think that would be a interesting test of physics to see how well it
withstands the abuse from an L-1987.  But we all might be surprised.

>   Thanks for the pointer to rocketry planet.  I was unaware in existed.

Glad to!

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