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what does sulfur desolve in?

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kimballt@pacbell.net - 18 Sep 2006 01:33 GMT
What if anything does sulfur desolve in?

Thanks,
KT
Halam Rose - 18 Sep 2006 01:48 GMT
> What if anything does sulfur desolve in?
>
> Thanks,
> KT

from wikipedia:
Sulfur is insoluble in water but soluble in carbon disulfide and to a lesser
extent in other organic solvents such as benzene.
Brian McDermott - 18 Sep 2006 02:08 GMT
> > What if anything does sulfur desolve in?
> >
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> Sulfur is insoluble in water but soluble in carbon disulfide and to a lesser
> extent in other organic solvents such as benzene.

Yeah, organic solvents mainly. Carbon Disulfide and Carbon
Tetrachloride are the two that come to my mind offhand. It does
dissolve in alcohol, but only verrry slightly. I looked into this a
while back when I wanted to give cast ZnS a try, but it was too much of
a hassle and there were too many safety issues.
Thomas Koszuta - 18 Sep 2006 15:48 GMT
> Sulfur is insoluble in water but soluble in carbon disulfide and to a
> lesser extent in other organic solvents such as benzene.

Carbon Disulfide.  Nice stuff.  You can ignite it with a cup of boiling
water.  Yes, really.

Tom Koszuta
kmcgrmr@yahoo.com - 18 Sep 2006 07:34 GMT
> What if anything does sulfur desolve in?
>
> Thanks,
> KT

Carbon disulfide and carbon tetrachloride, both of which are toxic
nightmares
and also present no small safety issues with regard to powdered metals.
I
remember another weird organic solvent being mentioned but can't
remember what
it was, tetrahydrofuran maybe which is also quite toxic.

Certain allotropes of sulfur will dissolve slightly in safer solvents
such as
alcohol if they're boiling hot--but that poses a serious fire hazard.

But basically, if it dissolves sulfur, you don't want to mess with it
because
it also dissolves your DNA.  That seems to be the general rule here.
+McG+
mjd - 19 Sep 2006 02:22 GMT
> > What if anything does sulfur desolve in?
> >
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> remember what
> it was, tetrahydrofuran maybe which is also quite toxic.

I would guess dimethyl sulfoxide is an effective solvent but might be wrong,
BUT I would strongly avoid ever playing with that too.. since it will zip
right through your skin and into your blood stream in seconds, carrying all
sorts of nasties with it (although neat and pure, it is not particularly
harmful). It is/was used as a carrier for analgesics for arthritic
treatment.

MJD
Gary - 19 Sep 2006 04:52 GMT
>>> What if anything does sulfur desolve in?
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>
> MJD

Ahhh.  Is that the DMSO I've read about in connection with
poisons and assassination attempts?  Something about tapping
a guy on the neck with a DMSO/poison coated swab?

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mjd - 24 Sep 2006 06:25 GMT
> >>> What if anything does sulfur desolve in?
> >>>
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> poisons and assassination attempts?  Something about tapping
> a guy on the neck with a DMSO/poison coated swab?

Yup, that would be DMSO. Timothy Leary had fun with it in his day...
kmcgrmr@yahoo.com - 19 Sep 2006 10:05 GMT
> > > What if anything does sulfur desolve in?
> > >
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>
> MJD

I suppose DMSO might work at that.

Hmmm.  I wonder how one would go about searching
the literature for sulfur solvents.  Oddball things
like the way liquid ammonia dissolves lithium or
normally unreactive gold can be leached by cyanide
and then easily decomposed back into metal.

Of course, the idea is to find a SAFE solvent for
sulfur, like carbonated water(very slightly) dissolving
chalk.

My chemistry isn't good enough to even speculate
about sulfur solvents.
+McG+
kimballt@pacbell.net - 19 Sep 2006 05:39 GMT
Well,

Thanks but no thanks.  I'll leave the dissolving sulfur activity alone.
Sound to nasty for me to dare do it.

I was considering using it as a sort of binder but sounds like I'd kill
myself trying to get it to work.  Glad I asked.  In the mean time I got some
simple Elmers glue to do the job just dandy for my igniters (Since buying
them now is caput with the recent Fed activity involving quick burst).

Thanks for the help.
Brian McDermott - 19 Sep 2006 21:45 GMT
> Well,
>
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>
> Thanks for the help.

I recommend PVC cement or nitrocellulose lacquer (called nitrate dope
at the hobby store) for making igniters. It evaporates quicker and acts
as a better fuel than Elmers.
kimballt@pacbell.net - 20 Sep 2006 05:47 GMT
thanks,
I'll try that.

Kt
Kurt - 20 Sep 2006 15:06 GMT
>>Well,
>>
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> at the hobby store) for making igniters. It evaporates quicker and acts
> as a better fuel than Elmers.

Dissolve ping pong balls in lacquer thinner or acetone.  Modern day
balls have inhibitors to combustion in them but it doesn't matter if
one adds a vigorous reagent to the mixture.

Go to ebay and buy the finest ground aluminum powder you can find and
black copper oxide CuO.  Measure out 4.42gms of CuO to 1gm. of aluminum.
Use this ratio to make larger amounts.  Mix in the syrupy nitrocellulose
lacquer and you'll have a vigorous igniter without any oxidizers. Buy a
cheap 50gm. electronic scale off of the internet.  It's good to titrate
black powder for ejection charges and it worth the investment.

Use a 30 to 32 gauge nichrome bridge wire.  Don't go to any smaller wire
as the wire may break before enough heat is imparted to the CuO thermite
lacquer.  There may be a 2 second delay from the time you push the 12V
launch button but the igniter will generate a wicked amount of heat.

This is fine to use as long as you're not going in a drag race.  If so
give these igniters to the competition and use the good stuff for
yourself! :-)
 
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