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Any Info on Rocket Conversion of Aiptek Cameras

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Mike Hellmund - 20 Dec 2006 00:41 GMT
Has anyone converted any of the other Aiptek cameras other than the Pencam
(Like the DV4500 or DV5100)

Thanks!

BTW Hi to all the old time rec.models.rockets users, Mike Hellmund here from
X-estes
Smaug Ichorfang - 20 Dec 2006 06:54 GMT
Similarly, has anyone been able to hack any of the new CVS disposable
digital video recorders?  They are also available as PureDigital USB
cameras for around $100.

> Has anyone converted any of the other Aiptek cameras other than the
> Pencam (Like the DV4500 or DV5100)
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> BTW Hi to all the old time rec.models.rockets users, Mike Hellmund
> here from X-estes
Darrell D. Mobley - 20 Dec 2006 07:44 GMT
> Similarly, has anyone been able to hack any of the new CVS disposable
> digital video recorders?  They are also available as PureDigital USB
> cameras for around $100.

http://camerahacks.10.forumer.com/index.php

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Roy Green - 20 Dec 2006 17:06 GMT
also:

http://www.maushammer.com/systems/cvscamcorder/index.html

and

http://www.makezine.com/07/camerarocket/

>> Similarly, has anyone been able to hack any of the new CVS disposable
>> digital video recorders?  They are also available as PureDigital USB
>> cameras for around $100.
>
> http://camerahacks.10.forumer.com/index.php
Bob Kaplow - 20 Dec 2006 18:36 GMT
> Similarly, has anyone been able to hack any of the new CVS disposable
> digital video recorders?  They are also available as PureDigital USB
> cameras for around $100.

There was an article about hacking them for rocket cameras in this falls
issue of MAKE magazine.

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Andy Eng - 22 Dec 2006 14:55 GMT
Hello  Mike,

> Has anyone converted any of the other Aiptek cameras other than the Pencam
> (Like the DV4500 or DV5100)

Loitering around while the family shopped, I did an imagineering design
review looking these over on the rack and got about this far:

- Break apart at the hinges to get the lcd folded in closer (assuming
the lcd needed to be open for the gadgets to work).   A bit concerned
of just how much cable/flexboard between the main body & lcd we'd get
to work with.   May end up splicing in a jumper cable but would need to
open one up to know.  Left it there...

- Lens view probably be pointing out radially and redirecting with
prisms/mirrors although having the camera hanging out viewing rearward
seemed possible (relatively slim profiles, still not sure what to do
with the LCD.   Left it there...

- Access to the buttons. The ample recording time makes feasible
turning the gadget on externally, stuffing it into the payload bay,
sealing things up and launching.  Was trading that method off against
simply poking at the buttons with long sticks through access  holes
versus opening up the gadget and remote the necessary switches.   I
guess if I were to do this alot and have several cameras, the latter
would be cool but the former would get one flying quicker.  Left it
there...

- Waaay out there. Use other lens components mounted externally and run
them into the recorder via quick disconnects and pack the recorder like
an upscaled egg.  Left it there...

- Internal mounting - Was leaning towards molded foam packing.

- Got to the part about thinking which rocket I've got laying around
which could carry the gadget with the least mods. That's about it...

I do like it's capacity and price as a starting point.

> Thanks!
>
> BTW Hi to all the old time rec.models.rockets users, Mike Hellmund here from
> X-estes

Happy Holidays, Mike...

Andy
Roger Smith - 23 Dec 2006 14:56 GMT
> - Break apart at the hinges to get the lcd folded in closer (assuming
> the lcd needed to be open for the gadgets to work).   A bit concerned
> of just how much cable/flexboard between the main body & lcd we'd get
> to work with.   May end up splicing in a jumper cable but would need to
> open one up to know.  Left it there...

I don't think any of the video cameras require the LCD door to be open to
record.

> - Lens view probably be pointing out radially and redirecting with
> prisms/mirrors although having the camera hanging out viewing rearward
> seemed possible (relatively slim profiles, still not sure what to do
> with the LCD.   Left it there...

I avoided the mirror by pointing the camera directly down the side of the
rocket.  I wasn't thinking about it when I picked the camera (a Polaroid
Studio 4), but the shape of it made it easier to mount this way. At least
one of the Aiptek models I've seen has the same basic shape.

> - Access to the buttons. The ample recording time makes feasible
> turning the gadget on externally, stuffing it into the payload bay,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> would be cool but the former would get one flying quicker.  Left it
> there...

I use the "start it and then put it in the payload section" method.  My
camera records up to 20 minutes on a 1GB SD card (actually longer since the
image is basically static while sitting on the pad).  I had some problem
making sure I didn't accidently turn it off while loading it in the rocket.
And I couldn't see the LED on the front that shows it's working while it was
on the rocket and the rocket was on the launch pad.  Then, after recovering
the rocket after its last flight, I discovered that I can see the LED if I
remove the whole payload section from the rocket and look for the LED.  So
now I have a better way to make sure the camera is running before I leave
the rocket at the pad.

> - Waaay out there. Use other lens components mounted externally and run
> them into the recorder via quick disconnects and pack the recorder like
> an upscaled egg.  Left it there...

There are some "sports camcorders" - real camcorders, not the toy-like
cameras we're talking about here - which have the lens on a cable.  They're
expensive, but probably would work well.

> - Internal mounting - Was leaning towards molded foam packing.

I used some pillow-type foam around the camera.  Nothing fancy.

More info, including photos and videos at:

http://www.payloadbay.com/article-my-current-project---upscaled-cinerocomega.html
http://www.payloadbay.com/article-upscale-cineroc-takes-flight.html

-- Roger
 
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