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David Schultz - 17 Jul 2007 03:05 GMT
I recently checked the web site for the Institute of Makers of
Explosives and found a news item on new regulations by the Department
of Homeland Security. It seems that someone slipped a new law in with an
appropriations bill giving them the authority to regulate certain
chemical facilities.

A quick look at their web site reveals something that could be of
concern to rocket motor manufacturers. If you have more than 2,000
pounds of ammonium perchlorate, you will have to at the least fill out a
screening questionnaire.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/chemsec_csattopscreenquestions.pdf
http://www.dhs.gov/xprevprot/programs/gc_1181765846511.shtm

and the interim final rule:
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/200
7/pdf/E7-6363.pdf


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AZ Woody - 17 Jul 2007 07:27 GMT
The hobby has been screwed since 9/11, and NAR/TRA have spent thousands
of dollars of our money trying to claim "it aint so" - Kind of like Bush
and IRAQ!

The NAR/TRA suit was filled long before 9/11, and the national's
attitude seems to have stayed the same since......

> I recently checked the web site for the Institute of Makers of
> Explosives and found a news item on new regulations by the Department
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the interim final rule:
> http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/200
7/pdf/E7-6363.pdf
 
John Wickman - 19 Jul 2007 15:31 GMT
> I recently checked the web site for the Institute of Makers of
> Explosives and found a news item on new regulations by the Department
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> pounds of ammonium perchlorate, you will have to at the least fill out a
> screening questionnaire.

What is interesting is that APCP is not on the list.  I guess the
Dept. of Homeland Security is not concerned if terrorists get their
hands on it.  Just the opposite position of the ATFE.  I wonder if
that could be used in the lawsuit to help the case.

John Wickman
John Wickman - 19 Jul 2007 19:52 GMT
> I recently checked the web site for the Institute of Makers of
> Explosives and found a news item on new regulations by the Department
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> pounds of ammonium perchlorate, you will have to at the least fill out a
> screening questionnaire.

I thought it was interesting that the list did not include APCP.  I
guess the Dept. of Homeland Security is not concerned about terrorists
getting their hands on it.   Too bad, the ATFE does not share the same
opinion, but then, that would call for rational throught from the
ATFE, so forget that.

John Wickman
David Schultz - 20 Jul 2007 00:15 GMT
>> I recently checked the web site for the Institute of Makers of
>> Explosives and found a news item on new regulations by the Department
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> John Wickman

The list isn't final yet. The IME web site has this to say:

"Will I have to submit through CSAT?  Probably.  If you have a chemical
listed in Appendix A above the threshold quantity, you need to complete
CSAT.  Although many explosives sites do not have chemicals listed in
the latest draft of Appendix A that was released to the public (mixtures
such as ANFO and dynamite and devices such as detonators are not on the
list), IME believes that the final Appendix A will include; 1) mixtures
of Appendix A chemicals that have virtually the same properties as the
pure chemical; and 2) devices that contain Appendix A chemicals that can
be a weapon themselves or the chemical can be easily extracted from the
device."

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Jim Yanik - 20 Jul 2007 15:02 GMT
>> I recently checked the web site for the Institute of Makers of
>> Explosives and found a news item on new regulations by the Department
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> John Wickman

I prefer to refer to BATFE as "F-troop".

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Gus - 24 Jul 2007 18:52 GMT
> >> I recently checked the web site for the Institute of Makers of
> >> Explosives and found a news item on new regulations by the Department
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>
> I prefer to refer to BATFE as "F-troop".

Where the "heck ah wee" ?
Fred Shecter - 24 Jul 2007 19:30 GMT
We're...

And it was cleaned up for TV from the original "Fuh Kah Wee".

Hey it's Tuesday. Today it's Jackie's Joke Hunt on Howard 101.

http://www.jokeland.com/

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>> >> I recently checked the web site for the Institute of Makers of
>> >> Explosives and found a news item on new regulations by the Department
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>
> Where the "heck ah wee" ?
tdstr - 24 Jul 2007 20:10 GMT
> We're...
>
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>
> http://www.jokeland.com/

*high 5's the Fredster*

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