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Ideal launch sites in Sacramento (CA.) county

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TheDood - 31 Jul 2007 01:16 GMT
Does anyone know of idea launch spots (park or larger) in or around
Sacramento County (California) for model rockets?
Aaron - 31 Jul 2007 01:50 GMT
> Does anyone know of idea launch spots (park or larger) in or around
> Sacramento County (California) for model rockets?

There are special laws in CA about model rockets.  I suggest you
contact a local rocketry club and find out what they are.  NAR
(www.nar.org) should be able to provide a list of clubs in the local
area.

-Aaron
Mike Pearson <see .sig> - 31 Jul 2007 02:06 GMT
> Does anyone know of idea launch spots (park or larger) in or around
> Sacramento County (California) for model rockets?

As Aaron said, there are spacial rules in California; you'll have much
better luck (and not have to deal with the police) launching with a
local club.  See the NAR Section list at:

http://www.nar.org/NARseclist.php

If their info is up-to-date, the Sacramento group launches on the 1st
Saturday of the month at Folsom Lake College.

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kimballt@pacbell.net - 09 Aug 2007 04:58 GMT
> f their info is up-to-date, the Sacramento group launches on the 1st
> Saturday of the month at Folsom Lake College.

Their info is not up to date.  There is no such launch.  I wouldn't launch
there anyway unless you want to be chasing your rocket on roof tops.

During rainy season I launch my rockets at a friends ranch near the county
dump.

Kt
Fred Shecter - 31 Jul 2007 15:08 GMT
As others have said, check with a local club who has local experience.

As for CA Statewide, here is good info on State regulations and the proper approach to
obtaining a launch site:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mebowitz/siteaid.pdf

-Fred Shecter NAR 20117
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> Does anyone know of idea launch spots (park or larger) in or around
> Sacramento County (California) for model rockets?
TheDood - 05 Aug 2007 17:41 GMT
On Jul 31, 7:08 am, "Fred Shecter"
<fred.e.shec...@zorch.alum.zorch.mit.edu> wrote:
> As others have said, check with a local club who has local experience.
>
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Hello all,

Thanks for your replies. Just to clarify, I'm only launching Estes
level rockets. Are you saying that California has restrictions
in this class of rockets also??
Aaron - 05 Aug 2007 19:13 GMT
> On Jul 31, 7:08 am, "Fred Shecter"
>
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> level rockets. Are you saying that California has restrictions
> in this class of rockets also??

All rockets are regulated in special ways in CA.  Contact a local club
to find out the details.
Darrell D. Mobley - 05 Aug 2007 20:21 GMT
> Thanks for your replies. Just to clarify, I'm only launching Estes
> level rockets. Are you saying that California has restrictions
> in this class of rockets also??

The only class unregulated in Kalifornia is rectal rockets. 8-)

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Fred Shecter - 06 Aug 2007 15:51 GMT
Yes. This was covered in the information that is linked in my original response. You
really, really need to read all of the information.

Violations of these State Fire Regulations can result in $1000 fine and/or up to 1 year in
jail for EACH violation.

Fires are very serious in California. They are serious elsewhere, but not every state is
as concerned with protecting life and property.

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> On Jul 31, 7:08 am, "Fred Shecter"
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> level rockets. Are you saying that California has restrictions
> in this class of rockets also??
R J Talley - 06 Aug 2007 17:54 GMT
Listen to Fred on this one. Contact a local club and follow their lead. I
fly rockets in SoCal and have been making sure I dot my "I"s and cross my
"t"s for several years. Sometimes it's maddening to the extreme. For
example, no Los Angeles County park will issue a permit for model rocketry
at all, period. Yet, Los Angeles city parks will. Some school districts will
if you are doing rocketry for the school, but, some schools use LA County
Parks as their playground and guess who has over-riding jurisdiction? You
got it, LA County Parks and Rec. So, no permit. Some other cities will issue
permits, Santa Clarita is one for example but you can forget Burbank,
Glendale, and Pasadena at least, that's been my experience; even as an
educator trying to get school launch sites. Fortunately, the BLM is very
open provided you give them all of the details and follow their rules. I
have yet to be denied a permit from them and it's been since 94 that I've
been applying for them.

If you are caught flying without proper documentation, you can count on
prosecution and a fine, especially during the fire season. If all of this
sounds like a big drag, you're right. Unfortunately it's the way things are
and we've got to live with it unless we can get things changed. Of course,
establishing a base of good behavior and compliance with present regulations
is the only way we can make head way. So, please, do it legally.

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Fred Shecter - 06 Aug 2007 18:43 GMT
He is correct, except for one tiny/huge fact: SCRA NAR Section 430 launches at an LA
County Regional Park. We have a permit from the park and from the LA County Fire Dept..
Our park use permit was not easy to obtain, but once we went through everything it was
worth it. The land is actually owned by the US Army Corps of Engineers, so they have a say
in every activity approved in the park (and any impact it might have on endangered plant
or animal species).

Anyway, our events are co-sponsored by our NAR section, the county dept of parks and
recreation and the US Army Corps of Engineers. We are even required to print their logos
on our launch calendar.  Scheduled launches are open to anyone from the general public as
long as you have a legal Model Rocket and it is deemed safe to fly during safety check.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mebowitz/
http://home.earthlink.net/~mebowitz/scra2007.pdf
It's the slow season right now, but we still had over a hundred flights at the Saturday
launch. Not much in the way of check in lines - none at all most of the day.

Here's some pictures on the JimZ website (near the bottom of the page):
http://www.dars.org/jimz/gallery.htm
http://www.dars.org/jimz/gallery/gal349.jpg
http://www.dars.org/jimz/gallery/gal340.jpg

So, don't give up, see if there is a local club and if not, think about organizing a club
to help obtain a launch site. NAR clubs get insurance and can easily obtain special
insurance certificates for launch site owners.

-Fred Shecter NAR 20117
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> Listen to Fred on this one. Contact a local club and follow their lead. I fly rockets in
> SoCal and have been making sure I dot my "I"s and cross my "t"s for several years.
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> get things changed. Of course, establishing a base of good behavior and compliance with
> present regulations is the only way we can make head way. So, please, do it legally.
 
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