Model Forum / General / Rockets / August 2007

Have you also noticed that that one website sells CDs with the Saturn
V information?  Have you read the comments in the slashdot article
that point out that people from NASA have been contacted and no such
thing has been ordered or done?  This was just a ploy to sell his CDs.

The Saturn V would be a very bad choice for an ICBM as it is VERY tall
compared to most ICBMs(hard to hide) and has a prolonged prep time
(loading all that LH2 and LOX takes quite a bit of time) and is just
plain too massive.  Realistically, you wouldn't need a payload because
a fully loaded Saturn V coming in ballistic to a location would result
in nearly the same damage as if a small nuclear device was detonated.

I call BS on this one.

-Aaron

Somebody has been watching too much Star Trek.

The Saturn V clearly qualifies for control under ITAR as a launch
vehicle because its payload and range greatly exceed the thresholds at
22 CFR 121.16. But because the technical data has seen such wide release
I believe that it is exempt because it is now public domain as defined
at 22 CFR 120.11

The person reportedly doing this is a contractor employed by NASA but
enforcement of ITAR is the job of the State Department. (Condi Rice and
company) This NASA employee has absolutely no authority outside of NASA.

What, in the land of the free?  Surely not!

Chris

At a near 30% inert GLOW, and having a mere 60:1 ratio of rocket per
payload is why that hocus-pocus rocket is getting ITAR rated.

Rather physics odd, in that most recently it's taking the best of the
very least inert rocket deployment on behalf of accomplishing GSO, a
good 80:1 ratio.  Makes the rest of us village idiots wonder how that
big old Saturn V accomplished their entire moon thing, with fuel and
payloads to spare.

Apparently those Third Reich collaborating Jews were a whole lot
smarter than we'd thought.  Apparently our NASA/Apollo smoke and
mirrors are equally ITAR rated.

Just think what Hitler could have accomplishjed if his smart Jewish
wizards as partners in crimes against humanity had found enough spare
energy for the process of creating additional h2o2?
- Brad Guth

Hmmmmm, still no such fly-by-rocket physics that'll add up to what
Saturn V supposedly accomplished.

at nearly 30% inert GLOW

60:1 ratio of rocket per payload

Quickly getting such tonnage to the moon with payload and fuel to
spare ?????

Venus and a few other worthy items within the DR of their Kodak film,
hiding better than Usama bin Laden and those Muslim WMD.
- Brad Guth