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Model Forum / General / Rockets / August 2007weak rockets
Hi I am interested in rockets that can propel bicycles and skates to relatively fast speeds. I'm not planning to do such stunts but I want to apply them somewhere else. Can anyone tell me what kind of rocket did they use in JackAss 2 to propel the bicycles up the ramp? Is that an HTP rocket? Do you guys know any website which can give me more information on Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? On Aug 1, 12:05 pm, lethaldri...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi I am interested in rockets that can propel bicycles and skates to > relatively fast speeds. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? > Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? HTP (High Test Peroxide) rockets and HTP itself is not something someone with little to no experience with high power rockets should be working with. HTP will decompose very energetically very quickly with only a small amount of contaminate. Also, there are only 2 real methods of obtaining HTP, distilling it yourself (not recommended unless you want to end your life early) or purchasing it. Most places that will sell HTP (H2O2 greater than 75% concentration) have a minimum order of about 2000 pounds or so (some more, some less) and will not sell to individuals, only companies. If you're looking to accelerate an object (be it a rocket or a bike) start small and work your way up. You'll be surprised how difficult it is(and dangerous for something like a bike) They don't call it rocket science for nothing. Check out this video: http://media.armadilloaerospace.com/misc/MaterialTest.mpg -Aaron An you guys busted my balls for trolling posts........... > Hi I am interested in rockets that can propel bicycles and skates to > relatively fast speeds. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? > Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? Gotta get your fun where you can. 8-) >An you guys busted my balls for trolling posts........... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? >> Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? I want an HTP rocket to help give some boost to my car for quarter- mile drag racing. The car will still have its small gasoline engine in stock form and the HTP rockets will assist this internal combustion engine in speeding up. I'm not sure about the minimum here for Hydrogen Peroxide but I many chemicals here in the Philippines are fairly easy to obtain. Can anyone help me obtain more information on Hydrogen Peroxide Rockets and how to make them or where to have those made? > Gotta get your fun where you can. 8-) > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >> Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? > >> Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? >I want an HTP rocket to help give some boost to my car for quarter- > mile drag racing. I think it's really cool that drag racing is popular in the Philippines. What track do you race at? I would suggest you look at using nitrous oxide(NOS for most people in the car industry) injection into the gasoline engine rather than HTP rockets. HTP rockets are not an easy or cheap method of going fast and are very dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. Call around to some industrial supply places and ask for 90% hydrogen peroxide. See what kind of response you get. I doubt you'll be able to buy it (I think you can't even buy normal solid rocket motors, but I could be wrong) -Aaron On Aug 1, 10:25 pm, lethaldri...@gmail.com wrote: > I want an HTP rocket to help give some boost to my car for quarter- > mile drag racing. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > >> Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? > > >> Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? Or use the tank of nitrous to drive a large hybrid. At least that can be shut off early, should the need arise. > I would suggest you look at using nitrous oxide(NOS for most people in > the car industry) injection into the gasoline engine rather than HTP [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>>> Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? >>>>> Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? nah! drag racing isn't really that popular here because not many people have the money and therefore can't afford expenses for such sport. We have a few drag racing strips here in places such as the Manila Harbour Center, Batangas Racing Circuit and in a few AirBases. Most of the cars used for racing are Honda Civics. We own a pharmaceutical company and we know a few chemical suppliers who can possibly supply us with hydrogen peroxide or if they don't have it then maybe they know someone who can help me obtain this chemical. The kind of HTP rocket I want to mount onto my drag car is the small kind used in JackAss2. not enough thrust to propel the car on its own BUT would probably give the car a boost when working with the gasoline engine. I guess if it is safe enough for a bicycle, skates or a sled then it would be of less danger to a driver with a farther distance from the rocket. rocket could possibly be mounted on the rear (inside the trunk) or on the sides. Mounts are welded onto the chassis. > Or use the tank of nitrous to drive a large hybrid. At least that can be > shut off early, should the need arise. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >>>>> Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? > >>>>> Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? >We have a few drag racing strips here in places such as the Manila >Harbour Center, Batangas Racing Circuit and in a few AirBases. Most >of the cars used for racing are Honda Civics. >The kind of HTP rocket I want to mount onto my drag car is the small >kind used in JackAss2. not enough thrust to propel the car on its own [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >rocket could possibly be mounted on the rear (inside the trunk) or on >the sides. Mounts are welded onto the chassis. I can't help you with the JackAss2 thing. I would argue that it is NOT save enough for bicycle, skates or a sled, or even a Honda Civic. Spewing large amounts of steam out the back would however make for great theatrics. I have often thought that small APCP motors could be useful in professional drag racing. First, they could be an anti "moon shot" safety feature. Second they could provide needed down force moving off the line at slow speed. Dragsters have lots of HP and Torque available but they can't put all of it to the wheels at the start or they will just smoke the tires. The tires thrust is limited by their down force, or "weight"; let's say trust four times the down force. So an extra kN of rocket down thrust could be an extra 4 kN of tire thrust off the line. As speed builds up, aerodynamic down force builds up to the point that the tires can handle the full engine torque. At even faster speeds, tire trust diminishes by engine RPM and HP limits. But for a front wheel drive Honda Civic, just cut the weight to the bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. The steam is just for theatrics. Have him email Pelthead, he's the authority on putting rocket motors on stupid things like bikes, wheel chairs etc.... > >We have a few drag racing strips here in places such as the Manila > >Harbour Center, Batangas Racing Circuit and in a few AirBases. Most [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > The steam is just for theatrics. Forgot one....... Outhouses..... > Have him email Pelthead, he's the authority on putting rocket motors on > stupid things like bikes, wheel chairs etc.... [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > > The steam is just for theatrics. LOL!! http://www.the-rocketman.com/ http://www.darwinawards.com/ Phil >Have him email Pelthead, he's the authority on putting rocket motors on >stupid things like bikes, wheel chairs etc.... [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. >> The steam is just for theatrics. actually that's one of the reasons I want a rocket motor assisting the IC engine. rocket thrust pushes through the air while tires need a lot of traction/friction to overcome inertia. thanks for mentioning "Pelthead" I hope he can help me here. Is "Outhouses" a person? > >We have a few drag racing strips here in places such as the Manila > >Harbour Center, Batangas Racing Circuit and in a few AirBases. Most [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > The steam is just for theatrics. No, "Outhouse" is what Pelthead put a rocket motor in and flew (If horizontally is deemed a flight) > actually that's one of the reasons I want a rocket motor assisting the > IC engine. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > > The steam is just for theatrics. Don't forget the monkey success dance! ;) > No, "Outhouse" is what Pelthead put a rocket motor in and flew (If > horizontally is deemed a flight) [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > > > The steam is just for theatrics. Oh hell, dancing like a buffoon in that video is priceless (Made the biggest a.s out of himself) Damn superglue works great, the pelt stayed on his dome > Don't forget the monkey success dance! ;) > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > > > > The steam is just for theatrics. No one that watches the Mummers Parade has a problem with that. Imagine 18,000 guys doing that with costumes on while they are still drunk from New Years partying. >Oh hell, dancing like a buffoon in that video is priceless (Made the biggest >a.s out of himself) [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >> > > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. >> > > > The steam is just for theatrics. so can anyone tell me the email address of this PeltHead guy? > No one that watches the Mummers Parade has a problem with that. > Imagine 18,000 guys doing that with costumes on while they are still [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > >> > > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > >> > > > The steam is just for theatrics. so can anyone tell me the email address of this PeltHead guy? > No one that watches the Mummers Parade has a problem with that. > Imagine 18,000 guys doing that with costumes on while they are still [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > >> > > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > >> > > > The steam is just for theatrics. Here is Peltheads email order@kytec.us Like I care if he get's spammed > so can anyone tell me the email address of this PeltHead guy? > [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > >> > > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > > >> > > > The steam is just for theatrics. I'm not sure who Pelthead ;-) is but if you look at the site I posted the URL for, it probably has what you are looking for. Phil >so can anyone tell me the email address of this PeltHead guy? > [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >> >> > > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. >> >> > > > The steam is just for theatrics. Ask Chuck, he coined the name originally > I'm not sure who Pelthead ;-) is but if you look at the site I posted > the URL for, it probably has what you are looking for. [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > >> >> > > > bone, add the safety equipment, use good tires and a strong engine. > >> >> > > > The steam is just for theatrics. Don't need to. You caught me in a PC moment. Don't worry it never lasts more than a minute. Phil >Ask Chuck, he coined the name originally > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] >engine. >> >> >> > > > The steam is just for theatrics. > actually that's one of the reasons I want a rocket motor assisting the > IC engine. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Is "Outhouses" a person? This can't be real, can it? RMR hasn't been this funny in a while. "Pelthead".  SignatureTweak > This can't be real, can it? Nothing is real in RMR land. Not even hair ;-) Damn, brown spray paint looks more real that that dead rat he wears. > > This can't be real, can it? > > Nothing is real in RMR land. > Not even hair ;-) >Hi I am interested in rockets that can propel bicycles and skates to >relatively fast speeds. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Hydrogen Peroxide (HTP) rockets? >Manufacturers that make these rockets available to the public market? Try an a.s rocket. Bean based propellants are cheap and not regulated. >> Hi I am interested in rockets that can propel bicycles and skates to >> relatively fast speeds. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Try an a.s rocket. Bean based propellants are cheap and not > regulated. Side bonus is they might enjoy installing the igniter.. Here's an article about a commercial a.s rocket. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/11/10/1162661861817.html |
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