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R J Talley - 22 Sep 2007 19:11 GMT
I've been on this board since the mid 90s. We never, and I mean never, had
spam at this level. What in the heck happened?  Fred? Bob? What went wrong?

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R J Talley
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"What? Me Worry? Alfred E Newman

Phil Stein - 22 Sep 2007 19:16 GMT
>I've been on this board since the mid 90s. We never, and I mean never, had
>spam at this level. What in the heck happened?  Fred? Bob? What went wrong?

There hasn't been a lot of activity for quite a while.  Then someone
decided it was his mission to irritate anyone that posted here so most
of the few remaining people stop here intermittently and go else where
for the most part.  If I didn't hate web based discussion groups, I
probably would have done the same thing.  The people that do discuss
rocketry here (as opposed to trolls and those responding to trolls) do
seem more civil these days.  Also, the people still here have gotten
familiar with using kill filters.

Phil
Whodat - 22 Sep 2007 19:36 GMT
> I've been on this board since the mid 90s. We never, and I mean never, had
> spam at this level. What in the heck happened?  Fred? Bob? What went
> wrong?

Yeah, used to be a nice group back in those days.  Nice to see a familiar
face.  I was a regular poster here back then, with a name you would
recognize, but a security issue and e-mail bombing has me posting under a
pseudonym now.

This is all being cause by one disgruntled person.  I for one don't have a
clue what caused him to loose his gruntle but he does this to numerous
groups across the usenet.  It's a very unfortunate situation.  When he posts
for real, he posts the most foul filth ever printed.  And he frequently does
it under the nym of others on the group.  The rest of the time he just bombs
the place with miscellaneous trash.  He has yet to explain what he wants.
It really seems he just wants to be a nuisance and kill groups.
R J Talley - 22 Sep 2007 23:00 GMT
It's sad. I remember when no one used profanity on the board and all were
careful to keep it family oriented. This used to be a good place for kids to
drop in and get some advice from us "big kids". Sadly, I'm afraid I can't
recommend the site any more. It used to be that I had my 11th grade students
lurk here for advice on their projects, parents would hid me now if I sent
their sons and daughters here.  I hope we can turn this around. I really do.
We had some good times way back when. Some folks I haven't seen nor heard
from in years. Sue? Matt? the other Bob? John? I miss them all. What was the
big guy's name who wrote Rockets of the World? Where the heck is he?

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Cheetah - 22 Sep 2007 23:34 GMT
> It's sad. I remember when no one used profanity on the board and all were
> careful to keep it family oriented. This used to be a good place for kids to
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> Teacher/James Madison Fellow
> "What? Me Worry? Alfred E Newman

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaahaha evidently
someone left the door open..........I guess to allow the stench to
escape from that dead corpse Freddie has been shagging.
So Freddie, how is old mom holding up?
Tim Smith - 22 Sep 2007 23:41 GMT
> It's sad. I remember when no one used profanity on the board and all were
> careful to keep it family oriented. This used to be a good place for kids
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> all. What was the big guy's name who wrote Rockets of the World? Where the
> heck is he?

Pete Alway. I've seen him in a recent issue of SpRocketry, but haven't heard
a post in a while.

I was here in the 90's, too -didn't post that much, but stopped in daily
for years, and still do quite frequently. I certainly recognize your name
RJ. There are still a few old-timers around, but posting is not as active as
it was then. There are forums that have likely taken traffic from the
newsgroup, as well.

Whodat - It stinks that you can't be yourself. I've wondered about your
pseudonym and comments that you've made that sounded like you were
expereinced in RMR, but now I'm more curious... I'll have to get the
squirrel moving and search my memory.

Tim Smith
GA rocketeer
Whodat - 23 Sep 2007 00:50 GMT
> Whodat - It stinks that you can't be yourself. I've wondered about your
> pseudonym and comments that you've made that sounded like you were
> expereinced in RMR, but now I'm more curious... I'll have to get the
> squirrel moving and search my memory.

The internet in general and usenet in particular has become a very nasty
place.  I always hated the use of psuedonyms and thought people who
recommended it were paranoid.  I liked knowing people and having them know
me.  But after certain problems last year I went incognito.  Hence the
Whodat pseudonym.

Yes, at one time I was very active on RMR.  I was a regular from the early
90's until just a few years ago.  And I've been a steady lurker since then.
I've flown rockets since the late 60's and have experience up to large level
2 clusters, staged rockets, hybrids, electronics, supersonic and
experimental.

And yes, it stinks that we can't be ourselves.
Whodat - 23 Sep 2007 01:41 GMT
> > Whodat - It stinks that you can't be yourself. I've wondered about your
> > pseudonym and comments that you've made that sounded like you were
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>
> And yes, it stinks that we can't be ourselves.

Say what   whodat be.......dat be whodat............you all sound like
a bunch of old women at a god damned wake..............hey ya
listening Freddie?
Whodat - 23 Sep 2007 02:26 GMT
>> > Whodat - It stinks that you can't be yourself. I've wondered about your
>> > pseudonym and comments that you've made that sounded like you were
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> a bunch of old women at a god damned wake..............hey ya
> listening Freddie?

And there's the nym shifting jerk hisself!  A perfect example of what's
become of usenet.

The Original Whodat.
Fred Wallace - 24 Sep 2007 01:08 GMT
>>>>Whodat - It stinks that you can't be yourself. I've wondered about your
>>>>pseudonym and comments that you've made that sounded like you were
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>
> The Original Whodat.

You mean, "nym shifting jerk A$$ Clown, a perfect example of what's
become of usenet". If everyone kill files the A$$ Clown we will not see
his crap. No sand box to crap in, he will leave. (:-) It's still a shame
we have to put up with such jerks at all. I would much rather talk about
the 1/3 scale V-2 two stage recovery system I worked on for most of the day.

Fred
Phil Stein - 24 Sep 2007 13:49 GMT
> I would much rather talk about
>the 1/3 scale V-2 two stage recovery system I worked on for most of the day.
>
>Fred

We're listening...

Phil
Phil Stein - 22 Sep 2007 23:58 GMT
>It's sad. I remember when no one used profanity on the board and all were
>careful to keep it family oriented. This used to be a good place for kids to
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>from in years. Sue? Matt? the other Bob? John? I miss them all. What was the
>big guy's name who wrote Rockets of the World? Where the heck is he?

Send the kids to TRF - it stands for the Teenage Rocketry Forum.  It's
a perfect place for teens - it has chest beating and kids talking
about stuff they know nothing about as though they were experts and no
profanity.  

Phil
Joe Pfeiffer - 23 Sep 2007 03:40 GMT
Yep, sad is the word for it.  The only faint hope is that the fool
abusing the group get tired of it and go somewhere else to play.
moonglow - 23 Sep 2007 05:43 GMT
> Yep, sad is the word for it.  The only faint hope is that the fool
> abusing the group get tired of it and go somewhere else to play.

Might I suggest the closet?  I figure it's just about time for Roid to
come out of the closet.

I just hope Roid doesn't take 'release the monkeys' too serious :)

Ted Novak
TRA#5512
IEAS#75
Larry Curcio - 23 Sep 2007 14:34 GMT
Scuse me. If that isn't illegal, it's high time it was.
I'm all for free speech, and this isn't free speech.
It's the restraint of free speech.

-Larry Curcio

>> I've been on this board since the mid 90s. We never, and I mean never,
>> had spam at this level. What in the heck happened?  Fred? Bob? What went
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> explain what he wants. It really seems he just wants to be a nuisance and
> kill groups.
Phil Stein - 23 Sep 2007 14:46 GMT
These things happen when you don't abide by an ISP's terms of service.
ISP's do not guarantee free speech.

Generally, I would agree with you but not in the person's specific
case.  Read his postings and you'll see what I mean.

>Scuse me. If that isn't illegal, it's high time it was.
>I'm all for free speech, and this isn't free speech.
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>> explain what he wants. It really seems he just wants to be a nuisance and
>> kill groups.
Eekamouse - 23 Sep 2007 03:46 GMT
> I've been on this board since the mid 90s. We never, and I mean never, had spam at this level.
> What in the heck happened?  Fred? Bob? What went wrong?

There is a mentally ill usenet kook, who has apparently become
obsessed with this particular newsgroup.  Fortunately, his floods
don't seem to show up on my particular server, so the problem is
being addressed on some level, at least.
 
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