What a f.cking mess the group is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 19 Dec 2007 19:19 GMT Like I said what a f.cking mess this group is......................................................!
Eekamouse - 19 Dec 2007 19:37 GMT Not really... just in the mind of one lonely, sad little nobody.
The S/N has actually gotten pretty good around here lately, compared to what it used to be. There is still an occasional sporgery from chimp-boy, but nothing that a call to his ISP can't fix.
Earl Chandler - 19 Dec 2007 20:41 GMT >Not really... just in the mind of one lonely, sad little nobody. > >The S/N has actually gotten pretty good around here lately, >compared to what it used to be. There is still an occasional >sporgery from chimp-boy, but nothing that a call to his ISP >can't fix. Yup.
Just like his ISP stopped him last time.
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 19 Dec 2007 22:36 GMT > >Not really... just in the mind of one lonely, sad little nobody. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Just like his ISP stopped him last time. Dream on asswipe.I have the same ISP for over 8 years now!
MDRAFWallace - 21 Dec 2007 01:31 GMT >>>Not really... just in the mind of one lonely, sad little nobody. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dream on asswipe.I have the same ISP for over 8 years now! EC an a$$wipe??? Strange,I thought he was just a JD drone..(:-)
Mike Pearson <see .sig> - 19 Dec 2007 23:53 GMT > Not really... just in the mind of one lonely, sad little nobody. > > The S/N has actually gotten pretty good around here lately, > compared to what it used to be. There is still an occasional > sporgery from chimp-boy, but nothing that a call to his ISP > can't fix. Yeah, it's actually been pretty good lately; the news service that my ISP uses has had their filters running (there's been ongoing attacks here, and at a few other newsgroups). Unless someone actually takes the time to respond to one of the sporgery messages I never even see the headers. It's as if they weren't even there. Little does our little darling know how much of his own time he's wasting, since a lot of us never see the effects of his handiwork.
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Rowdyyates - 21 Dec 2007 10:48 GMT Please tell me why people keep responding to this dickless, reeking pile of raw sewage? He obviously has some serious mother issues, among other problems.
Ignore him long enough, and he will grow bored, and go spread his sewage somewhere else.
Besides, all that "hipcrime" BS is so easily filtered. It actually improves the s/n ratio in the goup.
James
> Not really... just in the mind of one lonely, sad little nobody. > > The S/N has actually gotten pretty good around here lately, > compared to what it used to be. There is still an occasional > sporgery from chimp-boy, but nothing that a call to his ISP > can't fix. Earl Chandler - 21 Dec 2007 11:28 GMT > Please tell me why people keep responding to this dickless, reeking >pile of raw sewage? He obviously has some serious mother issues, among other [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Besides, all that "hipcrime" BS is so easily filtered. It actually >improves the s/n ratio in the goup. OK, here it is:
Fred wants rmr all to himself.
That's all there is to it.
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 21 Dec 2007 19:24 GMT > > Please tell me why people keep responding to this dickless, reeking > >pile of raw sewage? He obviously has some serious mother issues, among other [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > That's all there is to it. seek the truth and it shall be revealed......hahahahahahaha Fred is just a f.cking dumbass, thats all..............
MDRAFWallace - 21 Dec 2007 19:49 GMT >>> Please tell me why people keep responding to this dickless, reeking >>>pile of raw sewage? He obviously has some serious mother issues, among other [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > seek the truth and it shall be revealed......hahahahahahaha Fred is > just a f.cking dumbass, thats all.............. You made the cut......in the sh.t box filter trap you go..
PS: Mitch, be sure to introduce yourself if you're ever in the vicinity .....you know where I launch rockets...
Fred
MDRAFWallace - 21 Dec 2007 13:56 GMT > Please tell me why people keep responding to this dickless, reeking > pile of raw sewage? He obviously has some serious mother issues, among other [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > James Yep, I'm slowly learning, "filters work". Now if I can just compleatly stop responding to the few individuals that respond to the "dickless, reeking pile of raw sewage". Progress is slow sometimes, especially for us confrontational A-type personalities. (:-)..
edbedb - 21 Dec 2007 21:48 GMT > Please tell me why people keep responding to this dickless, reeking > pile of raw sewage? Because Fred Wallace and Phil Stein are themslves dickless piles of raw sewage?
MDRAFWallace - 21 Dec 2007 22:21 GMT Ed Benett wrote:
>> Please tell me why people keep responding to this dickless, >> reeking pile of raw sewage? > > Because Fred Wallace and Phil Stein are themslves dickless piles of raw > sewage? Ed, If you wish to talk rocketry, then rocketry it is. If on the other hand, you wish to sling sh.t, then you and anyone else should expect similar responses. Now, what was the subject of your last rocketry post??? I must of missed it Ed -- other than your persistent antagonistic ragging on other posters. Merry Christmas Ed and pass it on to your buddy Jerry....
Fred
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 22 Dec 2007 22:01 GMT > Ed Benett wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Fred Save me the fuckin diatribe people, you only think you have this noise and trash level under control but I seem to know a lot different as your getting pretty well the majority of it liek anyone else is espeically any that may just drop in to perhaps join this god foresaken f.cked up group that Freddie and Phil seem to think they own and control along with a few others. Really you all should have this group renamed to somehting along the lines of Rec.old.biddies as you all do not really have a clue what is what when it comes to USENET and trolls and its sheer speculation on y'alls part including Darrell, or would that be Darrells other brother Darrell.hell who really gives a rats a.s, I sure don't.....just don't slip on the grease / corpse stains on your way out!
MDRAFWallace - 23 Dec 2007 00:23 GMT >>Ed Benett wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > rats a.s, I sure don't.....just don't slip on the grease / corpse > stains on your way out! Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll.
Fred, fredewallaceatyahoodotcom
Enos Burdett - 23 Dec 2007 20:22 GMT >>>Ed Benett wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >Fred, >fredewallaceatyahoodotcom Guess Mitch/Habeeb isn't in your "sh.t box" filter after all. eh Fred?
What a dickhead windbag you truly are.
Enos
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 23 Dec 2007 20:38 GMT > >>>Ed Benett wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Fred is all talk just like a lot of the other hypes around this group who like to b eat their chests and rant and rave bout sh.t they know little to nothing about............Freddie boi would not know a kill filter nor whould half the other "mouths and biddies on here" if it was to jump up and give em a blow job! Their views is strictly assumptions and wishes that have gone unfullfilled.......being the whiners that they all are.Hey Freddie and Phil..........y'all want some cheese with that whine? hahahahahahaahaha..........its plainly evident others have Freddie andPhils number besides me..........
MDRAFWallace - 23 Dec 2007 20:48 GMT > Fred is all talk just like a lot of the other hypes around this group > who like to b eat their chests and rant and rave bout sh.t they know [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > some cheese with that whine? hahahahahahaahaha..........its plainly > evident others have Freddie andPhils number besides me.......... Your all one and the same, "MORONS". Look me up if you ever have the chance, we can adjust your future outlook...
Now back under your bridge moronic troll.
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 23 Dec 2007 20:53 GMT > > Fred is all talk just like a lot of the other hypes around this group > > who like to b eat their chests and rant and rave bout sh.t they know [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Now back under your bridge moronic troll. I see Freddie is still intimidated by the simple task of creating a kill filter................ha ha........Kind of quick to accuse others of being the moron Freddie.........Have you really looked in a mirrow of late? Readily apparent who the real moron in this bunch is...........huh Freddie boi? If answering that is so hard, let me give you a simple clue to cypher out......"F.W."
MDRAFWallace - 23 Dec 2007 23:08 GMT >>>Fred is all talk just like a lot of the other hypes around this group >>>who like to b eat their chests and rant and rave bout sh.t they know [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > is...........huh Freddie boi? If answering that is so hard, let me > give you a simple clue to cypher out......"F.W." I call it as facts are presented by you Morons... Plonk
MDRAFWallace - 23 Dec 2007 20:42 GMT >>Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. >>Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Enos Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll.
Enos Burdett - 23 Dec 2007 21:55 GMT >>>Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. >>>Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. The word "Christmas" is always capitalized, you dickless windbag.
MDRAFWallace - 23 Dec 2007 23:08 GMT >>>>Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. >>>>Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > The word "Christmas" is always capitalized, you dickless windbag. You can look me up also, and we can adjust your future as a puss...
Enos Burdett - 23 Dec 2007 23:53 GMT >>>>>Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. >>>>>Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >You can look me up also, and we can adjust your future as a puss... You better hope we never meet in person, asswipe.
MDRAFWallace - 24 Dec 2007 04:51 GMT >>>>>>Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. >>>>>>Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > You better hope we never meet in person, asswipe. Bring it on you pathetic POS moron, I'm not anonymous....
Fred
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 24 Dec 2007 13:09 GMT > >>>>>>Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. > >>>>>>Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - A real class act.............along with his escorts who are even classier (sic) EEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek a f.cking idiot is more like it. Nothing but idle threats from an old windbag still stuck inm the neanderthal peoiod beating his hairless chest! I thuink its safe to say.Freddie Boi and Phil and their followers certainly do not own this forum or control it like they think they do .whatch ya say Freddie??? you f.cking moron!
Enos Burdett - 24 Dec 2007 17:01 GMT >>>>>>>Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. >>>>>>>Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Fred Neither am I, Pussy Boy.
I live in North Potomac, MD.
switchboard.com can tell you where.
My first name is Ed. Enos is a nickname.
Come knock on my door some night, Freddy.
I promise you a rude awakening.
I already know you're a fatass redneck.
Now let's see just how much of a pussy you are.
Oh wait, I already know........
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 24 Dec 2007 17:18 GMT > >>>>>>>Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention Moron. > >>>>>>>Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge moronic troll. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Freddie boi is not gonna post his addy or even town.............he would be shaking in his high heels at every knock on the door...............However his addy is on line .bet he never figured it owuld get to this did you Freddie boi.....If Enos in MD, is too far for you to go to visit, come on by my place dude and we can shake the dam bushes a bit and see who comes out on top. Not like I do not already know the answer, and your welcome to bring your pocket mouse eek too, I may need a blow job after I get finished whipping your sorry putrid a.s and I hear old Eekamouse is good for those kind of things if PHil is not around.
MDRAFWallace - 24 Dec 2007 20:46 GMT >>Bring it on you pathetic POS moron, I'm not anonymous.... >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Oh wait, I already know........ Don't worry you Ed, I won't come to your house, I'm not stupid. But if we run into each other in a public place, you can press to test. I sure would like to see if your key board alligator mouth is backed up by anything other than a canary a$$... BTW, Fred is just a nickname, but you already know that... Just in case; I live in Upper Marlboro, MD. Listed under W. E. Shouldn't be to hard to figure out the rest.
fredewallaceatyahoodotcom CP 301.717.3696
Earl Chandler - 24 Dec 2007 21:02 GMT >>>Bring it on you pathetic POS moron, I'm not anonymous.... >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >fredewallaceatyahoodotcom >CP 301.717.3696 Typical Fred cop-out.
Ed (and Habeeb) are right.
What a pussy boy.
§ - 24 Dec 2007 22:22 GMT > Typical Fred cop-out. > > Ed (and Habeeb) are right. > > What a pussy boy. Are you habeeb/roid? Your the one that's doing the hipcrime, right?
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
Earl Chandler - 24 Dec 2007 22:43 GMT >> Typical Fred cop-out. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >TRA#5512 >IEAS#75 Sorry, no.
I don't even know what "hipcrime" is...........
Guess again
§ - 24 Dec 2007 22:55 GMT >>> Typical Fred cop-out. >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Guess again Well it seems that every time this habeeb/roid character shows up to get Fred's goat you show up right after to to join in the mayhem to bash Fred.
You never seem the least bit critical of this habeeb/roid character so to me that seems habeeb/roid posts are not at all that different from your posts, ie the same poster.
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 24 Dec 2007 23:42 GMT > >>> Typical Fred cop-out. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahahahaha, what a f.cking bunch of little old biddies that can only assume since they have no facts to base anything on, just wild a.s assumptions that run rampant with Freddie Boi and his little pocket mice. Hey Freddie.Boooooooooooooo the sky is falling the sky is falling..............you big old pussy boi!
W. E. Fred Wallace - 24 Dec 2007 23:45 GMT > >>> Typical Fred cop-out. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > TRA#5512 > IEAS#75 Yea, I figured EC out for what he is--filtered him a week or so ago--don't see him unless someone responds to his babble.
Fred
Earl Chandler - 25 Dec 2007 13:51 GMT >>>> Typical Fred cop-out. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >TRA#5512 >IEAS#75 Sorry, Sherlock.
Your detective skills are sorely lacking.
I don't care about hebeeb/roid/whoever one way or the other.
However, I do know Fred to be a loudmouth blowhard who seems to think he owns rmr.
I have a bit of a problem with that sort.
Fred is simply a waste.
Keep on detecting there, Ted.
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 25 Dec 2007 15:55 GMT > >>>> Typical Fred cop-out. > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Ted or Fred could not detect a load of crap in their panties.............Thats why they keep Phil aorund so he can tell em they sh.t their drawers and its time to change em..........Thats why they keep whodat / eekamouse aorund for so they can flounder in teh crap Fred and Ted put out and revel in their new found plethoria of crap...............Simple sh.t for simple sh.t eaters.............
§ - 25 Dec 2007 17:41 GMT > Ted or Fred could not detect a load of crap in their > panties.............Thats why they keep Phil aorund so he can tell em > they sh.t their drawers and its time to change em..........Thats why > they keep whodat / eekamouse aorund for so they can flounder in teh > crap Fred and Ted put out and revel in their new found plethoria of > crap...............Simple sh.t for simple sh.t eaters............. So Mitch-a-roni, What's your poison.... low power, mid power or High power rockets?
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
Whodat - 25 Dec 2007 17:56 GMT >Ted or Fred could not detect a load of crap in their >panties.............Thats why they keep Phil aorund so he can tell em >they sh.t their drawers and its time to change em..........Thats why >they keep whodat / eekamouse aorund for so they can flounder in teh >crap Fred and Ted put out and revel in their new found plethoria of >crap...............Simple sh.t for simple sh.t eaters............. Merry Christmas Big Habeeb aka Mitch aka Roid aka Tristan aka etc.
I wish the best for you on this day and for the coming year. May God be with you and bless you with peace.
Whodat
§ - 25 Dec 2007 17:35 GMT >>>>> Typical Fred cop-out. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Sorry, Sherlock. Please, Mr. Novak will suffice.
> Your detective skills are sorely lacking. > > I don't care about hebeeb/roid/whoever one way or the other. Okie dokie.
> However, I do know Fred to be a loudmouth blowhard who seems to think > he owns rmr. You've contributed mucho noise to rmr. Sounds a like your a blowhard yourself.
> I have a bit of a problem with that sort. > > Fred is simply a waste. And yet you continue to spend time on Fred. You could talk rockets but...
> Keep on detecting there, Ted. Only detecting your negative attitude that doesn't help rmr at all.
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
terry6969@aol.com - 25 Dec 2007 18:15 GMT ted, perhaps you've noticed that earl doesn't want to contribute to the subject of rockets, he just wants to bash fred. just like mitch, habeeb and company. earl talks about fred thinking he owns rmr, yet all fred is trying to do is get asswipe roid to stop his stupid behavior. one would think earl would want the group to get back on topic but no, he supports the public trashing. that makes no sense. this is not rec.personal.attacks, but everyone seems to want to jump on fred's back. whatever the point is of the continued idiotic display, it make no sense.
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 25 Dec 2007 19:52 GMT On Dec 25, 1:14 pm, terry6...@aol.com wrote:
> ted, perhaps you've noticed that earl doesn't want to contribute to the subject of rockets, he just wants to bash fred. just like mitch, habeeb and company. earl talks about fred thinking he owns rmr, yet all fred is trying to do is get asswipe roid to stop his stupid behavior. one would think earl would want the group to get back on topic but no, he supports the public trashing. that makes no sense. this is not rec.personal.attacks, but everyone seems to want to jump on fred's back. whatever the point is of the continued idiotic display, it make no sense. It may well surprise you that I do post on RP as well as under another name on this group if and when the need arises.................you may be surprised big time.............and to say what I want to say to our Freddie Boi and some others is justified in my minds eye since this hobby is so f.cking klanish and full of backstabbers.anony is almost a must have where one can leave that nym and take up where one left off with the other nym...............Face it none of you have a f.cking clue who you are really posting to.its all what yu read that has been posted by some other cluoeless twit on the internetk and you all seem to think Well I read it on the internet so it must be true...................so much for a bunch of f.cking losers like you all are. You all are nothing more than a name on a monitor..............certainly not worth getting my drawers in a wad over like some of you do! f.cking babies and losers playing with adult toys like rockets is a bad combination! I bet you all go through a heap of Baby Magic diaper rash lotion since you all get your panties in a wad so easy!
And you can call me Mr. Habeeb....and I do not change diapers, so go call Freddie or Terry or Ted, since they like to portray the motherly concept without the morales!
terry6969@aol.com - 26 Dec 2007 03:43 GMT > It may well surprise you that I do post on RP as well as under another > name on this group if and when the need arises.................you may [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > call Freddie or Terry or Ted, since they like to portray the motherly > concept without the morales! calm down, ernest. it's christmas.
W. E. Fred Wallace - 26 Dec 2007 13:17 GMT > > It may well surprise you that I do post on RP as well as under another > > name on this group if and when the need arises.................you may [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > calm down, ernest. it's christmas. I wonder how much ernie had to drink, posting such a diatribe on Christmas day. The typos and spelling are worse than mine. BTW, you're not talking about the famous ernie dunbar??(;-) If so, looks like mental problems have got the better of him and I hope he has a better year in 2008. Maybe big D @ RP can help ferret out the real a$$wipe roid and we can get him some help...(:-) Nothing but brotherly love for a fellow rocketeer.
Well, off to put the relatives on the plane, and pick up some epoxy cloth, gota get these fins glassed & finished... The Big WA-Hoo will fly again.
§ - 26 Dec 2007 15:56 GMT > Well, off to put the relatives on the plane, and pick up some epoxy > cloth, gota get these fins glassed & finished... The Big WA-Hoo will fly > again. Speakith of fiberglass...
Just got a email the other day from Aerosleeves....they're closing shop for good :(
Now where will be able to get sleeved fiberglass ;/
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
Darrell D. Mobley - 26 Dec 2007 16:58 GMT > Now where will be able to get sleeved fiberglass ;/ http://sollercomposites.com/
 Signature At first there was just one planet. And then there were two...
Rocketry Planet (http://www.rocketryplanet.com) and now Our Planet (http://our.rocketryplanet.com)!
§ - 26 Dec 2007 17:07 GMT >> Now where will be able to get sleeved fiberglass ;/ > > http://sollercomposites.com/ Thank you * 100!
I was really getting worry there. Glassing with aerosleeves is just about the easiest way to do a layup.
Thanks again Darrell.
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
W. E. Fred Wallace - 26 Dec 2007 19:03 GMT > >> Now where will be able to get sleeved fiberglass ;/ > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > TRA#5512 > IEAS#75 Are you using a vacuum bag set-up or stretching and cinching the ends of the sleeve at each tube end?
Fred
§ - 26 Dec 2007 19:05 GMT >>>> Now where will be able to get sleeved fiberglass ;/ >>> http://sollercomposites.com/ [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Are you using a vacuum bag set-up or stretching and cinching the ends of > the sleeve at each tube end? So far I've been just using the stretching technique and that seems to working well. However, I built a composite oven and eventually will be doing the shrink tape method.
The vacuum technique seem too complicated for me.
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
MDRAFWallace - 27 Dec 2007 00:27 GMT >>>>> Now where will be able to get sleeved fiberglass ;/ >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > TRA#5512 > IEAS#75 I found an old 50" aluminum roller tube at a salvage yard that fit inside 4" lock tubing. The tube had just enough slop in the fit that a spiral wrap of Wax paper, overlaid by about an inch, was enough to make a snug fit. I also have a Wigetech Vacuum Bagging kit, bought @ a surplus DOD DRMO tool sale. One of the civilian techs in the FAB shop I used to supervise, before I retired from the USAF, gave me some OJT, and I been using it to do rocket fins, 4" tubing, and Quickie 500 RC aircraft foam wings; even made a few boat and airplane composite surface repairs for friends. If you want to really make light composite parts, bagging is the only way to git-r-done.
I have also used the shrinktape process: bought the video tape from Shadow Composites, works real good on the smaller tubing, like 29 mm, 38 mm, & 54 mm. Tried using it on some cheap 3" paper tube, but the compression was to much for the tubing and it warped, causing the coupler to no longer fit. That's when I started looking @ mandrels.
I just got some 6" tubing and I plan on vacuum bagging that as soon as I order and receive a full 48" coupler.
For my curing oven, I converted an old upright deep freezer. Takes up quite a bit of space as I striped it out and mounted it horizontally on a long table, but it works great.
Fred Wallace TRA 5763, TAP MDRA 007
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch) - 27 Dec 2007 02:54 GMT > >>>>> Now where will be able to get sleeved fiberglass ;/ > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Who really gives a sh.t Freddie....................NO ONE that means anything gives a flying f.ck dude! Get over it! Get back in your crib and your w.nking.
Eekamouse - 27 Dec 2007 05:30 GMT LOL!
This group is great.
The only thing that's a mess, is your lonely, jobless, alcoholic self.
MDRAFWallace - 27 Dec 2007 12:05 GMT > LOL! > > This group is great. > > The only thing that's a mess, is your lonely, jobless, alcoholic self. You're being nice to our little friend. However, Habeeb must first recognize he has a problem, before we can help... Self denial is the biggest obstacle to self improvement. OTH, maybe his towel is wrapped to tight around his head...(:-)
§ - 27 Dec 2007 16:58 GMT >> So far I've been just using the stretching technique and that seems to >> working well. However, I built a composite oven and eventually will [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > spiral wrap of Wax paper, overlaid by about an inch, was enough to make > a snug fit. Is the roller tube used just for reenforcement of the LOC tube or to make a compatible composite tube to the LOV 4" tube?
> I have also used the shrinktape process: bought the video tape from > Shadow Composites, works real good on the smaller tubing, like 29 mm, 38 > mm, & 54 mm. Tried using it on some cheap 3" paper tube, but the > compression was to much for the tubing and it warped, causing the > coupler to no longer fit. That's when I started looking @ mandrels. Yup, got the same video. I ruined a decent LOC 4" tube on my first try at shrink tape but that was due to my forgetting to use wax on my mylar wrap.
I would imagine that vacuum bagging would apply *more* pressure than shrink taping, right?
> I just got some 6" tubing and I plan on vacuum bagging that as soon as I > order and receive a full 48" coupler. Custom tubing source?
> For my curing oven, I converted an old upright deep freezer. Takes up > quite a bit of space as I striped it out and mounted it horizontally on > a long table, but it works great. I built my from the Shadow Aero plans. Thinking back I wished I built it longer. Only can do 32" tubes right now.
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
George Patterson - 27 Dec 2007 19:52 GMT > I built my from the Shadow Aero plans. Thinking back I wished I built > it longer. Only can do 32" tubes right now. I am sure I can fit more. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > - Show quoted text - George Patterson - 27 Dec 2007 23:15 GMT > > I built my from the Shadow Aero plans. Thinking back I wished I built > > it longer. Only can do 32" tubes right now. I am sure I can fit more. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > - Show quoted text - ªºªandcarole - 28 Dec 2007 10:15 GMT On Dec 27, 6:15�pm, rec.aquaria.marine.reefs "Tynk" posting as George Patterson <ty...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I built my from the Shadow Aero plans. �Thinking back I wished I built > > > it longer. �Only can do 32" tubes right now. �I am sure I can fit more. Use more Vaseline, I'm sure you can stretch it to 40....
George Patterson - 28 Dec 2007 14:21 GMT > On Dec 27, 6:15�pm, rec.aquaria.marine.reefs "Tynk" posting as George > Patterson <ty...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Use more Vaseline, I'm sure you can stretch it to 40.... Ahhhhhhhhhhh, but Ted (Freddies bed and a.s mate) hates the taste of vaseline, since he likes to lick old Freds a.s once he gets done playing with it. Guess Ted and Freddie is doomed to do it dry and suffer the consequences.............still better than f.cking some old dead piece of meat like Freddie used to do though.........
J - 28 Dec 2007 14:51 GMT Thanks for your email address tynk.
Yahoo will like it.
ªºªandcarole wrote:
> On Dec 27, 6:15?pm, rec.aquaria.marine.reefs "Tynk" posting as George > Patterson <ty...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > MDRAFWallace wrote: > > > > I built my from the Shadow Anal plans. ?Thinking back I wished I built
> > > > it longer. ?Only can do 32" tubes right now. ?I am sure I can fit more.
> Use more Vaseline, I'm sure you can stretch it to 40.... Ahhhhhhhhhhh, but Ted (Freddies bed and a.s mate) hates the taste of vaseline, since he likes to lick old Freds a.s once he gets done playing with it. Guess Ted and Freddie is doomed to do it dry and suffer the consequences.............still better than f.cking some old dead piece of meat like Freddie used to do though.........
Tynk - 28 Dec 2007 19:23 GMT > Thanks for your email address tynk. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > suffer the consequences.............still better than f.cking some old > dead piece of meat like Freddie used to do though......... Dam " J "..............you really do not have the first clue do you? You just felt compelled like Freddie Boi to toss y ur dog off your porch and make your badass look like the real fool you really are..Congratulations on being almost as much of a dumbass as Fred and Phil and TED.....now run off twit and get a f.cking clue ok? I do not have time to play games with a novice like you ........fresh out of diapers........but we thank you for playing the game, and a nice consolation prize is in the mail to show you we appreciate your participation even if it is a little weak!
MDRAFWallace - 28 Dec 2007 22:49 GMT > Thanks for your email address tynk. > > Yahoo will like it. Roid hi-jacked the email address, he doesn't own one of his own, would be to original; something roid is not capable of.... (:-)
MDRAFWallace - 28 Dec 2007 01:59 GMT >>> So far I've been just using the stretching technique and that seems >>> to working well. However, I built a composite oven and eventually [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Is the roller tube used just for reenforcement of the LOC tube or to > make a compatible composite tube to the LOV 4" tube? Just for reenforcement, so for. I'm thinking about attempting a carbon fiber tube build-up using the aluminum tube as a mandrel. Cant make up my mind; lay-up with CF cloth or go for the big bucks and use a CF sleeve.
>> I have also used the shrinktape process: bought the video tape from >> Shadow Composites, works real good on the smaller tubing, like 29 mm, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I would imagine that vacuum bagging would apply *more* pressure than > shrink taping, right? VB can apply more pressure, but the vacuum can be controlled and the vacuum pressure is applied more uniformly across the tube surface.
>> I just got some 6" tubing and I plan on vacuum bagging that as soon as >> I order and receive a full 48" coupler. > > Custom tubing source? Red arrow Hobbies and Giant Leap.. However, both sell only phonolic, if I remember correctly. If you want full length Paper, Barry @ LOC may be able to help.
>> For my curing oven, I converted an old upright deep freezer. Takes up >> quite a bit of space as I striped it out and mounted it horizontally [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > TRA#5512 > IEAS#75 Fred
Phil Stein - 29 Dec 2007 16:16 GMT Fred,
From what I've read on the Yahoo composites group (assuming I understand it correctly), I would be more inclined to use go with a CF fabric rather than a sleeve. The sleeves give a result close to FWFG where the strength of the fibers is not at an angle perpendicular to where it will be most effective to the loads it will encounter going through mach. I'm planning to make some CF airframe using plain weave fabric.
From experimenting, with it, I'd say the waxed mylar works great. It's available in several thicknesses from McMaster.com.
Phil
>>>> So far I've been just using the stretching technique and that seems >>>> to working well. However, I built a composite oven and eventually [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >Fred MDRAFWallace - 26 Dec 2007 17:37 GMT >> Well, off to put the relatives on the plane, and pick up some epoxy >> cloth, gota get these fins glassed & finished... The Big WA-Hoo will fly [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > TRA#5512 > IEAS#75 Tomorrow when I'm back in the office, I'll ask one of our buyers to do a search of their supplier data base. Let you know
Fred
J - 26 Dec 2007 17:52 GMT Try http://www.solarcomposites.com/
> >> Well, off to put the relatives on the plane, and pick up some epoxy > >> cloth, gota get these fins glassed & finished... The Big WA-Hoo will fly [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Fred Darrell D. Mobley - 26 Dec 2007 16:55 GMT > I wonder how much ernie had to drink, posting such a diatribe on > Christmas day. The typos and spelling are worse than mine. BTW, you're > not talking about the famous ernie dunbar??(;-) Not unless he's moved to Savannah and changed his name. 8-)
> Maybe big D @ RP can help ferret out the real a$$wipe roid and we > can get him some help...(:-) Nothing but brotherly love for a fellow > rocketeer. Stranger things have happened.
 Signature At first there was just one planet. And then there were two...
Rocketry Planet (http://www.rocketryplanet.com) and now Our Planet (http://our.rocketryplanet.com)!
MDRAFWallace - 28 Dec 2007 21:22 GMT >> I wonder how much ernie had to drink, posting such a diatribe on >> Christmas day. The typos and spelling are worse than mine. BTW, you're [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Stranger things have happened. Savannah; I wonder if he does his rocket thing with SHARC.
I also wonder if the abuse desk @ PeoplePC would be interested in his activities just may check it out. Of course, I'm not to smart when it comes to this computer stuff. Can't wait for our little friends response to this, beings his Enos Burdett caper/bluff turned out to be another of his anon attempts to masquerade as some kind of tuff guy... As my dad used to say, that guy is a real split tail, (Habeeb in this case)...(:-)
Of course, now he will change the wording to this post and send it to all the other groups he has polluted...(:-)
Fred
W. E. Fred Wallace - 26 Dec 2007 12:42 GMT > ted, perhaps you've noticed that earl doesn't want to contribute to the subject of rockets, he just wants to bash fred. just like mitch, habeeb and company. earl talks about fred thinking he owns rmr, yet all fred is trying to do is get asswipe roid to stop his stupid behavior. one would think earl would want the group to get back on topic but no, he supports the public trashing. that makes no sense. this is not rec.personal.attacks, but everyone seems to want to jump on fred's back. whatever the point is of the continued idiotic display, it make no sense. I doubt that bunch understand your reasoning. Earl is a waste, not much different than the a$$wipes you mentioned, also including the new a$$wipe roid enos. EC's first posts, (quite recent), on RMR are as you mentioned, and for the most part hasn't changed. One thing for sure, none of those individuals will ever have the guts to man-up face to face with their hidding behind the key-board drival. But I have great news for them: MDRA is having a launch the 12th and 13th of JAN. While it looks like I won't be there on the 12th, because of business return travel, I'll be @ the launch on the 13th, only to launch rockets and enjoy the experience...(;-)
Gus - 24 Dec 2007 21:10 GMT a.shole Wallace spewed:>BTW, Fred is just a nickname,
I guess Cletus and Jethro were taken, huh?
Gus
W. E. Fred Wallace - 24 Dec 2007 23:51 GMT > Wallace wrote:>BTW, Fred is just a nickname, > > I guess Cletus and Jethro were taken, huh? > > Gus Hey Gus, nice to hear from you again. I keep asking a couple of your bud's when your coming down, but they seem to think, your not ready for the experience.
W. E. Fred Wallace - 27 Dec 2007 22:22 GMT >Fred Wrote
> >Bring it on you pathetic POS moron, I'm not anonymous.... > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Oh wait, I already know........ Well it looks like our little enos is a real blow hard. The only Ed Burdett listed in North Potomac MD., has a disconnected phone and no longer lives @ that address @ Latakia Pl and the house is vacant. Care to try again for a "rude awakening" there moron.. I think Habeeb is Enos and Enos is Habeeb----there is a moron in there somewhere; is it Roy or JD???? Help is available....
edbedb - 24 Dec 2007 22:15 GMT >>>>>>> Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention >>>>>>> Moron. Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Fred Wow! Huge shocker!
Fred is again threatening to punch out someone with whom he disagrees.
Who would have expected such a thing?
Fred's almost constant stream of threats of phyical violence is one more great example of why this group has ecome wortlss.
W. E. Fred Wallace - 25 Dec 2007 00:11 GMT > >>>>>>> Speaking of diatribes...Pot...kettle...black, not to mention > >>>>>>> Moron. Merry christmas to you also. Now back under your bridge [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Fred's almost constant stream of threats of phyical violence > is one more great example of why this group has ecome wortlss. Ed, when, specifically, have I threatened violence to you? Btw, I didn't threaten to punch anyone else either...can't you read and understand the literal meaning of what I said?? Now that doesn't mean I won't confront, antagonize, and respond accordingly to what happens..(:-)
Once again: If you wish to talk rocketry, then rocketry it is. If on the other hand, you wish to sling sh.t, then you and anyone else should expect similar responses. Now, what was the subject of your last rocketry post??? I must of missed it Ed -- other than your persistent antagonistic ragging on other posters.
Fred
Eekamouse - 23 Dec 2007 23:20 GMT "Big Loser" <> wrote:
> Save me the fuckin diatribe people, you only think <snip> Based on the stream-of-consciousness style, inane gibberish content, combined with numerous typographical errors and almost complete lack of punctuation, I'm guessing that post was made under the influence of lots of alcohol.
Drunk, on a Saturday afternoon, on one of the busiest social weekends of the year. That paints a picture of a depressed, lonely loser with no friends.
How sad.
I'll pray for you tonight.
Joe - 19 Dec 2007 20:16 GMT > Like I said what a f.cking mess this group > is......................................................! huh, I don't see any of it for more than a second or two... customized views in outlook express work wonders.
jc
MDRAFWallace - 19 Dec 2007 21:07 GMT >>Like I said what a f.cking mess this group >>is......................................................! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > jc Yep, Netscape 7.2 allows for creative filtering also. The one individual, I never see anymore, unless one of his drones, (Earl Chandler for example), responds to him. Heck, come to think about it, I don't even see EC's postings, sense filtering his address. (:-) I think Big Habeeb might be another prospective filter candidate....
Fred
Joe - 19 Dec 2007 21:10 GMT >> huh, I don't see any of it for more than a second or two... customized >> views in outlook express work wonders. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Fred I just set the message to ignore and it, and all responses, thankfully, are never to be seen again.
Earl Chandler - 20 Dec 2007 23:22 GMT >>>Like I said what a f.cking mess this group >>>is......................................................! [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Fred Still waitng for my invite to the "grudge match", Freddie.
Do let us all know when you and JD will be dukin' it out, huh?
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