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Help with home made launch controller

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ULB - 03 Mar 2008 06:57 GMT
I just posted this is one of the basic electronic usenet groups.  I am
hoping you guys can help as well.  Thanks for any replies, take care,

Hi all,

I was looking into building a simple (but hopefully cool) model rocket
igniter.  Yeah I'm bored, but stupid as a brick.  About the only thing
I know about electricity is 110 volt hurts when you touch it.  :)
Luckily this is only 12 volts.  ;)

You can view the plans here:  http://home.earthlink.net/~rbogerjr/index.html

If you scroll down and hit "contents directory" it will show you the
"how it works".

How does the lightbulb limit the current that is going through the
circuit without igniting the engine igniter?  I am assuming from what
I have read is anything above 6 volts, ignites it like a fuse blowing.

I would love to build this unit, only I would like to change the
incandescent bulb to an LED in addition, add a piezo for an audible
sound as well.  Where should the piezo be added in the diagram?

Can anyone shed some light for me on this?  Thank you for any replies
and have a great night.
§ - 03 Mar 2008 14:14 GMT
> I just posted this is one of the basic electronic usenet groups.  I am
> hoping you guys can help as well.  Thanks for any replies, take care,
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> Can anyone shed some light for me on this?  Thank you for any replies
> and have a great night.

Best way is to use Fred Wallace and place him face down in the dirt
and slime where he feels more at home (hell he used to sleep with the
slime ball that was left form  his dead momma ), with his pants around
his ankles. Duct tape hand and feet together and super glue a strike
anywhere match on thetip of his nose, and place nose firmly in contact
with striker material for match. Tape end of fuse  so it is in contact
with match tip on Freddies nose, and run rest of fuse to rocket motor.
When ready to launch, poke Freddie in his a.shole (in other words just
touch him anywhere since FREDDIE is a big a.shole anyway) with the end
of a broom stick. His natural reaction other than backing up on the
broom stick thinking its Darrell or Phil, will be to arch up and make
the nose and match strike the friction material........
Eekamouse - 03 Mar 2008 17:09 GMT
That is quite an imagination you have there.

Your infatuation with anal stimulation is fascinating... I have
only seen that level of obsession with written anal fantasies in
certain prisoners convicted of animal torture and bestiality, who
were themselves abused sexually as children.

Do you want to talk about it?

"Sad, lonely person" cried out for help thusly:

> and slime where he feels more at home (hell he used to sleep with the
> slime ball that was left form  his dead momma ), with his pants around
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> broom stick thinking its or, will be to arch up and make
> the nose and match strike the friction material......
W. E. Fred Wallace - 03 Mar 2008 21:59 GMT
Other than his  obsession, there is one obvious fact for sure: "The
ignorance of this individual is only exceeded by his stupidity and
inability to recognize either".... Not to mention, "this individual will
never repeat his drivel face to face, with anyone he has a keyboard
obsession fantasy with or has written derogatorily about". While he may
not be concerned with his obvious mental health issues, physical
preservation and personal security seems to be a big concern, or is it,
 "he is just yellow"...(:-)

Fred

> That is quite an imagination you have there.
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>broom stick thinking its or, will be to arch up and make
>>the nose and match strike the friction material......
Steve Humphrey - 03 Mar 2008 14:57 GMT
> How does the lightbulb limit the current that is going through the
> circuit without igniting the engine igniter?  I am assuming from what
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> incandescent bulb to an LED in addition, add a piezo for an audible
> sound as well.  Where should the piezo be added in the diagram?

Ohm's Law: The voltage drop across a resistor is equal to the current
times the resistance, or   V = I * R

The entire circuit (with the continuity button pushed but not the launch
button) has some resistance R. This is the sum of the individual
resistances in the circuit: igniter, light bulb, switch, and the wire
itself. To simplify things we can assume the switch and wire have zero
resistance; that's never the case but it's usually small enough to
ignore. So R = Ri + Rb  (Ri is igniter resistance, Rb is light bulb
resistance).

You are using a known battery voltage, 12v in this case. So the current
flowing through the circuit is:

             I = V/R = V/(Ri + Rb)

Most hobby igniters (e.g. Estes) require a relatively high current for
ignition, around 1-2 amps. Light bulbs have fairly high resistance, so
with the light bulb in the circuit the current is small, below the level
needed to fire the igniter. When you press the launch button the circuit
now has a low-resistance alternate path around the light bulb. The
current is now (approximately):

             I = V/R = V/Ri

Estes igniters have a resistance of about 0.8 Ohms, so with a 12v
battery the current is more than enough to fire the igniter.

Low-current igniters, like electric matches, need very little current to
fire--around 0.1 amp or less. The light bulb doesn't have enough
resistance to limit the current, so even without the launch button
pushed this circuit is not "electric match safe". But LEDs (with their
associated resistor) have enough resistance to drop the current to a
safe level. Just replace the light bulb with an LED and a resistor in
series.

Add the piezo buzzer in series with the LED & resistor.

Steve Humphrey
 
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