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My L1 Certification

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Roger Coppock - 14 Jun 2009 05:14 GMT
I earned my L1 certification at ROCstock XXIX today.  My 29 mm
diameter Blue Tube™ rocket rocketed skyward on an H128 at
about 10:20 AM on pad 19 at the ROC's Lake Lucerne launch site.
For about a minute I thought the Rocket Gods had taken it.  Then,
someone found it quickly drifting away on its 18-inch yellow
parachute in the 15+ mph winds.  In about a minute, it disappeared
again from sight.  Fortunately, some ATV drivers recovered it about
a mile away from the pad.  (Saved by a pair of bright orange return
labels!)  John Wahlquist of ROC witnessed and signed.  He deserves
extra credit for his patience with me.

I wonder how high I can make a "L" impulse minimum diameter go?
(I've really got to work on dual deployment and radio location.)

-.-. --.- Roger Coppock
Joe Pfeiffer - 14 Jun 2009 07:15 GMT
> I earned my L1 certification at ROCstock XXIX today.

Outstanding!
Dale Martin - 15 Jun 2009 02:25 GMT
I earned my L1 certification at ROCstock XXIX today.  My 29 mm
diameter Blue Tube™ rocket rocketed skyward on an H128 at
about 10:20 AM on pad 19 at the ROC's Lake Lucerne launch site.
For about a minute I thought the Rocket Gods had taken it.  Then,
someone found it quickly drifting away on its 18-inch yellow
parachute in the 15+ mph winds.  In about a minute, it disappeared
again from sight.  Fortunately, some ATV drivers recovered it about
a mile away from the pad.  (Saved by a pair of bright orange return
labels!)  John Wahlquist of ROC witnessed and signed.  He deserves
extra credit for his patience with me.

I wonder how high I can make a "L" impulse minimum diameter go?
(I've really got to work on dual deployment and radio location.)

-.-. --.- Roger Coppock

Congrats and welcome aboard!
Captain - 15 Jun 2009 19:31 GMT
> I earned my L1 certification at ROCstock XXIX today.  My 29 mm
> diameter Blue Tube™ rocket rocketed skyward on an H128 at
> about 10:20 AM on pad 19 at the ROC's Lake Lucerne launch site.

Congratulations Roger!

OK, please forgive my naivety regarding HPR, having never built or
flown, but ...

BT-5 is min. dia. for 13mm; BT-20 is min. dia. for 18mm; BT-50 is min.
dia. for 24mm.  What the heck is min. dia. for 29mm?  From the specs,
BT-55/56 seems too big.
Joe Pfeiffer - 15 Jun 2009 20:17 GMT
>> I earned my L1 certification at ROCstock XXIX today.  My 29 mm
>> diameter Blue Tube™ rocket rocketed skyward on an H128 at
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> dia. for 24mm.  What the heck is min. dia. for 29mm?  From the specs,
> BT-55/56 seems too big.

You wouldn't want to use Estes tube for a high power rocket!  Going to
somebody like Public Missiles Limited, it turns out they've got phenolic
airframe tubing with a 1.145" inside diameter:

https://blastzone.com/pml/
Damian Burrin - 15 Jun 2009 20:34 GMT
>>You wouldn't want to use Estes tube for a high power >rocket!  Going to
>somebody like Public Missiles Limited, it turns out >they've got phenolic
>airframe tubing with a 1.145" inside diameter:

LOC Precision do some cardboard tube thats ok for lower end L1 stuff.  You
can use drain pipe. (sorry Quantum Tube) but glassed phenolic for anything
the more extreme.  There is also the new Blue Tube thats become available
(http://www.rebelrocketry.com/shop/index.php?cat=c281_Blue-Tubes.html) -
It's just getting to the UK now.

Damian

Damian Burrin
UKRA 1159 Level 2 RSO

http://www.ukrocketry.com
http://www.larf-rocketry.co.uk

LARF - Putting the amateur back in rocketry!!
Roger Coppock - 16 Jun 2009 05:39 GMT
> > I earned my L1 certification at ROCstock XXIX today.  My 29 mm
> > diameter Blue Tube™ rocket rocketed skyward on an H128 at
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> dia. for 24mm.  What the heck is min. dia. for 29mm?  From the specs,
> BT-55/56 seems too big.
Roger Coppock - 16 Jun 2009 05:49 GMT
[ . . . ]
> BT-5 is min. dia. for 13mm; BT-20 is min. dia. for 18mm; BT-50 is min.
> dia. for 24mm.  What the heck is min. dia. for 29mm?  From the specs,
> BT-55/56 seems too big.

29mm works out to BT-52 in Estes' scheme.
Yes, I have used BT-52 in a high power rocket.
There are, however, many other products better
than plain old kraft paper for high power model
rocket body tubes.  They are usually made with
fiberglass and/or epoxy.  Sometimes, exotic
materials, like carbon fiber, are used.
 
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