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Running in a 4-Stroke

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CliveK - 27 May 2004 22:36 GMT
I'm just running in an OS FS40 Surpass.

I'm using GX-5 - at least, that's what the chap on the Model Technics stand
at Sandown said it was; despite not saying so on the label.

Twice now, it has stopped violently and thrown the prop off; actually
breaking the spinner the first time.

I've heard 4-strokes can be prone to doing this, but what can I do to avoid
it?

Am I running too rich? Too lean? Wrong fuel?

CliveK
xntrick - 28 May 2004 01:30 GMT
I would guess at too lean and its semi seazing....back it off arf a turn and
see if it runs much longer.
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djindivik - 28 May 2004 09:27 GMT
4 strokes are prone to having a sudden backfire & doing just what you
describe. Run it a little richer, but most of all get a LOCKNUT for the
prop. Try just engines, they should have one. Tighten it up good & tight &
that should cure your problem. It did for me. Ray
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quietguy - 30 May 2004 00:23 GMT
Would putting a spring washer on help?

David

> 4 strokes are prone to having a sudden backfire & doing just what you
> describe. Run it a little richer, but most of all get a LOCKNUT for the
> prop. Try just engines, they should have one. Tighten it up good & tight &
> that should cure your problem. It did for me. Ray
Maarten - 30 May 2004 05:09 GMT
Never use them, they make it worse
re
maarten
> Would putting a spring washer on help?
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> > prop. Try just engines, they should have one. Tighten it up good & tight &
> > that should cure your problem. It did for me. Ray
Lyman Slack - 28 May 2004 16:53 GMT
It sounds like you are running it waaaaay too lean -- especially for a break
in. However, get yourself a good 6" adjustable wrench or a box wrench and
really tighten up the prop nut. Those four way wrenches are great for plugs,
but NOT for props. A jamb nut will also help.

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> Twice now, it has stopped violently and thrown the prop off; actually
> breaking the spinner the first time.
> CliveK
Paul McIntosh - 30 May 2004 01:05 GMT
I am not familiar with that fuel but if it is between 5-15% nitro and around
15-18% synthetic or synthetic-castor blend oil, it should be about right.
Usually, a four stroke throws the prop because it it too lean or has too
much compression for the fuel.  I have also seen Saitos that would throw the
prop if too rich.

I tend to run my four strokes about midway between peaked and slobbering.
Sure, it burns a bit more fuel, but the engines like it and they last a long
time!

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