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Philip Rawson - 26 Sep 2004 01:46 GMT
The latest boat that I'm building - and it's on my website- might need more
channels than I've got available on the tranny I'm using, an old Futaba
27meg 2 channel set. I've got to of these radio sets (on different
frequencies), so I figured that it'd be a simple job to combine them into
one case with 2 aerials sticking out of the top. Is there any reason why
this shouldn't work? Of course the next question is, can I dispense with one
of the aerials and connect the two outputs to one aerial?

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Philip Rawson

www.flymodels.co.uk
www.aeromodeller.org
Martin X. Moleski, SJ - 26 Sep 2004 02:55 GMT
>The latest boat that I'm building - and it's on my website- might need more
>channels than I've got available on the tranny I'm using, an old Futaba
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>this shouldn't work? Of course the next question is, can I dispense with one
>of the aerials and connect the two outputs to one aerial?

Two transmitters on different channels should work OK to
control 4 channels.

My amateur guess is that one aerial will work, too, over
short distances, as long as there is sufficient separation
between the frequences.  Try it and let us know how it
works.  ;o)

                Marty
John Hollinshead - 26 Sep 2004 16:10 GMT
> The latest boat that I'm building - and it's on my website- might need more
> channels than I've got available on the tranny I'm using, an old Futaba
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> this shouldn't work? Of course the next question is, can I dispense with one
> of the aerials and connect the two outputs to one aerial?

I know with all rain and such a wonderful summer we've had do you know
something the rest of us should know ?
david - 27 Sep 2004 09:21 GMT
Philip,

Theres no real techy reason why it wont work.

As for using one antenna, yes that should work also.  I have often run
amateur receivers off one aerial with no ill effects.

As for combining them in one case...why?  Tape the two rx blocks together
and you'll still have two rx's for when the Hun has sunk yer boat!

Any pics I can see?  I recently scratch built a 40" torpedo boat, S700, 9
cells.  Works a treat!

David
> The latest boat that I'm building - and it's on my website- might need more
> channels than I've got available on the tranny I'm using, an old Futaba
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> www.flymodels.co.uk
> www.aeromodeller.org
The Natural Philosopher - 27 Sep 2004 10:36 GMT
> Philip,
>
> Theres no real techy reason why it wont work.
>
> As for using one antenna, yes that should work also.  I have often run
> amateur receivers off one aerial with no ill effects.

Receivers yes, transmitters no. Don't even think about it unless you are
a radio ham and can build the necessary matching units. Feeding 200mW of
power into the output of another one is not the way to have long life on
either.

Have you ever tried for example driving a loudspeaker from two radios
tuned to a different channel?

At best, massive distortion, at worst, two blown radios...

> As for combining them in one case...why?  Tape the two rx blocks together
> and you'll still have two rx's for when the Hun has sunk yer boat!
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>>www.flymodels.co.uk
>>www.aeromodeller.org
david - 27 Sep 2004 10:54 GMT
> Receivers yes, transmitters no. Don't even think about it unless you are
> a radio ham and can build the necessary matching units. Feeding 200mW of
> power into the output of another one is not the way to have long life on
> either.

Oops!  Sorry, misread the original post!  Quite right too...definately LOTS
of techy reasons why you can't fee two tx's into one antenna directly!  In
fact, having two tx's so close in both frequency and proximity might be an
issue, but you'll have to try it and see.

David

> Have you ever tried for example driving a loudspeaker from two radios
> tuned to a different channel?
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> >>www.flymodels.co.uk
> >>www.aeromodeller.org
Philip Rawson - 27 Sep 2004 10:58 GMT
Thanks, that was the answer I was looking for..

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Philip Rawson

www.flymodels.co.uk
www.aeromodeller.org

> > Philip,
> >
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> >>www.flymodels.co.uk
> >>www.aeromodeller.org
Philip Rawson - 27 Sep 2004 10:59 GMT
It's a sailing boat, a Tornado catamaran, the pics are on my website...

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Philip Rawson

www.flymodels.co.uk
www.aeromodeller.org

> Philip,
>
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>
> David
Kevin R - 27 Sep 2004 12:46 GMT
Or if you have a Futaba radio I can do you a 40mhz 4 channel receiver
Transmitter module for a 7 8 or 9 Field force  and 2 crystals
Kevin
> It's a sailing boat, a Tornado catamaran, the pics are on my website...
>
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>>
>> David
Stewart Simpson - 27 Sep 2004 13:52 GMT
Nice looking hull you built there, The way we used to build them is to
reduce the size of the moulds and run batons every inch up the length of the
hull, then staple your first strips on (same way as you did the outer skin)
but glue the strips to the baton on the stem and gunnel only, next remove
staples and laminate strips at right angles to the first ones, using
cascamite, staple at ends until set then remove the hull from the frame work
leaving only the keel/stem and gunnel batons in place.

I built my last one out of Kevlar/glass, Using a plug made from ply moulds
with blue foam in-between, finished in epoxy/glass and filler, then made a
mould from it using the vacuum bag press, worked very well indeed.

Stew.

Philip Rawson - 28 Sep 2004 01:49 GMT
Ah, I was wondering about the best way to do the two layers, both at 45
degrees... Cheers...

I thought about finishing one hull, then taking a splash off it, In the end
I figured I'd rather have the wood looking hulls.

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Philip Rawson

www.flymodels.co.uk
www.aeromodeller.org

> Nice looking hull you built there, The way we used to build them is to
> reduce the size of the moulds and run batons every inch up the length of the
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>
> Stew.
Philip Rawson - 28 Sep 2004 01:45 GMT
Yep I've got a spare FF8... how much do you want for the stuff?

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Philip Rawson

www.flymodels.co.uk
www.aeromodeller.org

> Or if you have a Futaba radio I can do you a 40mhz 4 channel receiver
> Transmitter module for a 7 8 or 9 Field force  and 2 crystals
> Kevin
Kevin R - 28 Sep 2004 13:11 GMT
I recon the module receiver & crystals are worth about £70 on Ebay but if
that's to steep I will keep them in case I ever need to run a airboat or
similar I dont really need to sell them so I not that bothered about giving
them away for less
if your worried about getting ripped off I can put them on Ebay as a private
sale or you can check my feedback
> Yep I've got a spare FF8... how much do you want for the stuff?
>
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>> Transmitter module for a 7 8 or 9 Field force  and 2 crystals
>> Kevin
Philip Rawson - 29 Sep 2004 01:40 GMT
Cheers, I'll give it some thought, but to be honest,I'm not looking to spend
that sort of money right now...

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Philip Rawson

www.flymodels.co.uk
www.aeromodeller.org

> I recon the module receiver & crystals are worth about £70 on Ebay but if
> that's to steep I will keep them in case I ever need to run a airboat or
> similar I dont really need to sell them so I not that bothered about giving
> them away for less
> if your worried about getting ripped off I can put them on Ebay as a private
> sale or you can check my feedback
Kevin R - 29 Sep 2004 07:48 GMT
No problem I not that desperate to sell it its always nice to have a land
based set-up to have a play with a boat hovercraft or robot or whatever
> Cheers, I'll give it some thought, but to be honest,I'm not looking to
> spend
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> private
>> sale or you can check my feedback
 
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