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Hypothetical (electric) helicopter!!

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KGB - 09 Nov 2006 11:16 GMT
Hi

I have been an R/C flyer - fixed wing - for more years than I care to
admit to, but have no heli experience other than playing with virtual
helis on FMS and other flight sims.

However, I am contemplating treating myself to an electric heli to
play with in the garden on sunny, calm, days as a change from glow
powered fun-fly models with wings attached.

If - and this (alas) is where the purely hypothetical bit comes in -
if money were no object, then what would be your ultimate electric
heli to give reasonable performance whilst still being controllable
for a newcomer to rotary wing models (or is that a contradiction)??

In reality, I will probably drool over the ultimate - but way too
expensive - model, then lower my sights to one that I can nearly (but
not quite) afford, but which still keeps my marriage intact;  I can
accept the inevitable few days frosty silence and muttered comments
about the washing machine needing replacing - that's all part of
having an "expensive" hobby!!!!         8^)

Regards
KGB
Humpty Dumpty - 09 Nov 2006 13:36 GMT
I have a rather nice zoom 400 brushless, ready to fly with the hubdave belt
drive installed, she's a good looker and pretty easy to fly, which I want to
sell, I was thinking to put it on e-bay in a few weeks time.
funfly3 - 09 Nov 2006 13:44 GMT
> Hi
>
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> Regards
> KGB

not the ultimate but I am a fixed wing pilot of a few years experience
and here's my 2 cents worth, don't bother with the honeybee type of
craft they are hard to fly even when you can, a T-Rex or similar sized
is a lot more stable and a 30 powered glow are even easier go for the
biggest you can afford even if it means flying a glow down your field
then downsizing once you have mastered the beast
Ron van Sommeren - 09 Nov 2006 16:29 GMT
Brace yourselves ;-)
http://indoorpylon.de/videos/mamo3mlipoheli.wmv (14MByte)

Vriendelijke groeten ;-) Ron van Sommeren
near Nijmegen, the Netherlands
14th.int. Electric fly-in, Aug.26. http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/
Humpty Dumpty - 09 Nov 2006 16:58 GMT
> Brace yourselves ;-)
> http://indoorpylon.de/videos/mamo3mlipoheli.wmv (14MByte)

that thing is HUGE!

I saw this one yesterday, flabbergasting, what more can you say!
http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1d1c21bd1635f59edae0
KGB - 10 Nov 2006 15:51 GMT
Hi Folks

>> Brace yourselves ;-)
>> http://indoorpylon.de/videos/mamo3mlipoheli.wmv (14MByte)
>
>that thing is HUGE!
Unfortunately my garden and wallet are not big enough.

>I saw this one yesterday, flabbergasting, what more can you say!
>http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1d1c21bd1635f59edae0
In my original post I stated: "reasonable performance whilst still
being controllable".  I was thinking of something possibly a shade
more boring and staid than the heli in the video!!      8^)

Regards  
KGB
Dave Lane - 10 Nov 2006 16:37 GMT
> being controllable".  I was thinking of something possibly a shade
> more boring and staid than the heli in the video!!      8^)

 if you're watching the pennies, take a look at the £30 Hughes-alike
being offered by Maplin... but only 2 channel.  Still looks like fun -
but set me looking around - here is a 4 channel Hughes going for $80 on
ebay;
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HUGHES-300-RC-4CH-RC-RTF-HELICOPTER_W0QQitemZ16004711385
7QQihZ006QQcategoryZ2563QQcmdZViewItem


 interesting video here, although I found that I had to save it out
first to get it to work...

 and, afaik, the same one from a Japanese store:

http://www.hobbyjapan2000.com/store/proddetail.php?prod=EHH-4-EASTHOBBY

 total cost inc shipping, about $110 - and this for a RTF 4 channel
helicopter...amazing.

cheers

Dave
Porridgewog SV1k - 10 Nov 2006 18:52 GMT
> Hi
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> about the washing machine needing replacing - that's all part of
> having an "expensive" hobby!!!!         8^)

I have a Trex 450XL and I would recommend it highly.  I have gone through
several small electics including the Piccolo Pro, Hornet, Zoom (or Shogun)
and the Eolo (which is a bit bigger).  I was about to give up on small helis
until I bought the Trex.  I started on glow helis and fly a Raptor 50 and
IMO, there is no other small heli that flys as close to a large model as the
Trex.  A key to getting the Trex to fly well is getting all the ball joints
to move with no binding whatsoever.  The looser the setup the better but not
so there's slop.  Another key to a great flying Trex is good servos - I use
Hitec HS-56 which are very good as are the HS-65.  Obviously no good heli is
complete without a decent giro and I use & reccoment the Futaba GY-401.  I
have tried others (Telebee, GWS micro, Futaba G190, GWS PG-03) and none of
these comes anywhere close to the GY-401. Yes it's in a different class but
worth every penny IMO.

So to sum up, I'd get the following if I were you;

Trex 450XL CDE
4 off Hitec HS65 servos
Futaba GY-401 Giro
Align 430L & 35a ESC
Flightpower EVO20 2150 3s battery

Though not exactly cheap, you will not be dissapointed with this setup.

HTH.
KGB - 10 Nov 2006 22:49 GMT
<SNIP>
>I have a Trex 450XL and I would recommend it highly.  
<SNIP>

Hi

Thanks for that.  I have been considering the Trex 450 so you may just
have persuaded me.

Regards
KGB
Porridgewog SV1k - 11 Nov 2006 14:51 GMT
"KGB (KGB)" <FedUpWithSpam@NoEmailAddre.ss> wrote in message

> Thanks for that.  I have been considering the Trex 450 so you may just
> have persuaded me.

YKIMS ;-)
 
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