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Ideas for powering my Minicraft Javelin S 90

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Me - 19 Feb 2007 16:04 GMT
Just ready to install an engine in a Minicraft Javelin 90.
A review model in a magazine used an ASP120 - in my view heavy. I wonderd
what any one thought of an ASP91 or SC91 which is a good deal lighter and
not that much less in power.
Alternatives are a Saito FA91S and a Saito FA-100 and in the OS range a OS
FS91 Surpass and the OS FS91P (pumped). I considered the one with the
electronic injection but couldnt, for the life of me, work out where the
unit would have to be situated on the plane as I guess it need access. Not
sure though and if it is worth the money either!
I guess the O.S. 120 engines would be on the heavy side too.
Obviously all my choices are four strokes but the Saito seems lighter (which
is what I want with this model) but has more vibration (from reading
reviews) and needs more running in than the O.S. On the other hand O.S.
engines are heavier and less powerfull but will nearly run straight out the
box with little running in time required.
Can anyone help with this dilema.
Oh yes. the purpose of the model is to practice the F3a sportsman and
standard schedules, a consideration not to be missed.

The other thing is: what props would you recomend with any suggested engine?
Pattern planes allways seem to have high pitches but I always think thins is
contrary to what is required. (IE a steady speed in up and downlines) Not
overall speed.
chris-s@mailcity.com - 19 Feb 2007 16:53 GMT
Ultimate performance it's got to be a YS.

Chris

> Just ready to install an engine in a Minicraft Javelin 90.
> A review model in a magazine used an ASP120 - in my view heavy. I wonderd
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> contrary to what is required. (IE a steady speed in up and downlines) Not
> overall speed.
Humpty Dumpty - 19 Feb 2007 17:15 GMT
Yes YS 110!!

http://www.probuild-uk.co.uk/products/index.php?catID=11&subCatID=19

very smooth and powerfull, but the drawback is it needs fuel with 20% nitro,
something like Magnum YS 20%

Stew

> Ultimate performance it's got to be a YS.
>
> Chris
Me - 19 Feb 2007 22:14 GMT
For practise I dont wanna fork out on 20. Its gotta run on 15% max, and I
guess that means OS as Saito are saying 20% too
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Allan - 19 Feb 2007 23:22 GMT
My Magnum 120 runs very happily on 5%. The instructions say up to 20% can be
used but practice shows this is completely unnecessary

Unless you are a real engine freak any of the ASP, Magnum or other Chinese
engines will serve you perfectly well

As for power, if this is important simply go up a size or two and then you
don't need to flog it to death. And for weight, build the plane with the
battery and or servos sensibly located, whether this is right at the front
or under the tailplane they works just as well!

Allan
Humpty Dumpty - 20 Feb 2007 11:03 GMT
Another idea is the modified Magnum engines sold by West, They have a
modified head and upgraded carb to give 20% more power, Id think they would
run on 5% fuel http://www.westonuk.co.uk/index_008.htm

> My Magnum 120 runs very happily on 5%. The instructions say up to 20% can
> be used but practice shows this is completely unnecessary
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>
> Allan
Boo - 20 Feb 2007 17:31 GMT
> Another idea is the modified Magnum engines sold by West, They have a
> modified head and upgraded carb to give 20% more power, Id think they would
> run on 5% fuel http://www.westonuk.co.uk/index_008.htm

I wouldn't want to run one of those engines in an inverted installation owing to
the fact that the carb is right down at the bottom of the model - makes it hard
to site the fuel tank.  Same goes for Lasers.

Just my opinion, not looking to start ww3.

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Me - 20 Feb 2007 22:01 GMT
Well I have settle for a bog standard SC91FS. Had them in the past with tons
of power and easy to start.
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