> I was going to say that insulting people probably isn't the best way to
> start when you require ANYTHING from them....
>
> but I think david said this in less words :P
>
> Andy
"Jokers" is a term of endearment in the colonies. Much like "bastards",
in the sentence "Which one of you bastards called this bastard a
bastard?" it has a variable meaning. In the contect in which it was used,
it was not an insult.
Nind you, if he says "You jokers are be a bunch of bastards", neither
jokers or bastards in that sentence would be nice.
Remember he's foreign, and can't speak English as it was intended. I,
too, am foreign, originating from the colonies myself, but 20 years in
Britain has taught me to interpret. I can even speak Yorkshire, which
is probably more than many of you ;-)
Still, he does carry strine to irritating and absurd lengths, so I
can see why you were narked. Most people in Australia don't speak
like that, and almost noone ever writes like that. I think he does
it for dramatic effect. Ho hum.
Trev
>> Jokers? We get a good deal for our insurance with the BMFA, our national
>> body. So f.ck off.
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>> > Martin Luther King: "Our lives begin to end when we become silent about
>> > things that matter."
DN - 28 Feb 2004 01:16 GMT
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> Still, he does carry strine to irritating and absurd lengths, so I
> can see why you were narked. Most people in Australia don't speak
> like that, and almost noone ever writes like that. I think he does
> it for dramatic effect. Ho hum.
>
> Trev
You are quite right Trev - I'm suitably chastised ;-)
Most Oz folk I mix with are well travelled, educated and have a bob or two.
Among them are those who like to speak 'proper' English and those, like me,
who don't give a bugger and talk the way we feel for the occasion. If, when
I appear professionally, I speak 'proper' you understand, but on those
frequent occasions (now I'm retired, or trying to be) I mix with 'real'
people in the Bush, who have more humanity in their little fingers than all
the others put together. Their expressive language, like the Cockneys or the
Geordies (?) is fun to listen to and to engage in, round a BBQ or camp fire.
They, my bush mates, by and large, own very little (although I know several
multi millionaires among this mob) but own decency, gratitude, humour,
honesty and generosity in big measure. That's where I'm coming from. Sorry
to those who find my gibes and language 'over the top' ; but on reflection,
go and bite your bum LOL
DN
The Natural Philosopher - 28 Feb 2004 07:52 GMT
> <SNIP>
>
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> to those who find my gibes and language 'over the top' ; but on reflection,
> go and bite your bum LOL
DN, I know where your coming from, and one of me best mates ever came
from there to. Taught me plenty about all what you just said, even tho
he was a Sydney slicker.
You just keep right on with it mate.
> DN
DN - 29 Feb 2004 04:42 GMT
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; but on reflection,
> > go and bite your bum LOL
> DN, I know where your coming from, and one of me best mates ever came
> from there to. Taught me plenty about all what you just said, even tho
> he was a Sydney slicker.
>
> You just keep right on with it mate.
It must be because it's Sunday ! Everone is so kind :-) (I'll get round to
answering those e-mails soon)
Glad you rubbed shoulders with and made friends with a Sydney ite TNP.
Despite what many say about Sydney folk, they are mostly friendly and frank
people. Why, even my ol Lady is a Sydney Shelia and my first born in one to.
Both tough as a buffalo's hide, but will give you their last shilling if
they had too. Best memories of Sydney (a looooong time ago) was going to a
pub near the wharves one Friday lunch time to find a raffle in full swing.
On the counter was a chook and a 'bird'. You guessed it - if you won the
raffle you had a choice... Sydney is more sophisticated now and not quite as
much fun.
DN