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> It used to be a good newsgroup, but is almost a complete waste of time these
> days if you have anything relating to metalworking.
It was the first newsgroup I got involved in 7 years ago and the main one I
used to enjoy participating in. We used to have some really good debates
about both metalworking and engines. Then 911 happened and some of the
people started to show their true colours. Calls for all the 'ragheads' to
be bombed into oblivion regardless of where they were, who they were or
whether they'd actually had anything to do with 911. The sentiment displayed
was so vile and abhorrent I couldn't participate anymore and deleted the
group from my list. I looked back in briefly a couple of years ago and also
recently but half the bandwidth is still squabbling between the pro and anti
Bush and the pro and anti Gulf war brigade.
America has always been a very paranoid and jingoistic country. McCarthyism,
the cold war, reds under the bed, you some kinda pinko commie lovin sumbitch
then boy? etc etc. Either you're for them or against them. Very little
middle ground and a tendency to just lash out at anything that doesn't agree
with their world view. I find it fascinating though but also disturbing. On
the more cosmopolitan east and west coasts the attitudes, and the voting, is
much more liberal and enlightened. Unfortunately there's a big swath of
insular, isolated right wing republicans running down the centre of the
country who think that America is god's own country, the only country in the
world worth a damn and probably have very little idea of where any other
country actually is on a map.
I've often wondered whether the internet will gradually erode this insular
behaviour but if so it isn't happening fast enough.
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Dave Baker
www.pumaracing.co.uk
Adrian Godwin - 28 Feb 2006 09:09 GMT
> I've often wondered whether the internet will gradually erode this insular
> behaviour but if so it isn't happening fast enough.
I suspect that, for some people, exposure to other views simply
reinforces their prejudices.
Along the lines of 'nothing narrows the mind like travel'.
-adrian
John Stevenson - 28 Feb 2006 09:42 GMT
>It was the first newsgroup I got involved in 7 years ago and the main one I
>used to enjoy participating in. We used to have some really good debates
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>I've often wondered whether the internet will gradually erode this insular
>behaviour but if so it isn't happening fast enough.
I very rarely agree with Ower Gert without an argument but I do in
this case when she says America is a young country and has a lot of
growing up to do.
One thing they can't grasp is the ability to take the piss out of
themselves and get away with it.
Brit's and Ozzies have had much experience of this and are wiser for
it.
You only have to look at US humour to appreciate this and the
Simpson's about describe it all.
It's called dumbing down of the masses.
At the height of the Vietnam war ABC, CNN or someone went into Times
Square, not the outback, and had a large map of the world with no
names on it and asked people to point out Vietnam.
90% pointed to Australia as it was the largest country in that area.
They had no idea of foreign affairs and couldn't grasp that the great
US of A was fighting in some tinpot swamp.
As Dave says RCM was a good group but they can't keep on topic for
more than 20 seconds, the Simpson's memory span, and then it all falls
apart into guns and religion.
I have no interest in guns despite being a sub contractor to Heckler
and Kosh at one point but they couldn't see why we are no all revved
up over guns.
One guy even posted "Why if you are an engineer can't you appreciate
the work that goes into a gun?"
I replied "there is a damn sight more skill , design and work goes
into a typewriter but I don't see you guys getting revved up over
typewriters and sewing machines"
There was no reply to that one.
The funniest post I saw was one where Gunners wife had pissed off and
left him for the local milkman.
All the regulars were posting in telling him to move his gun
collection to a safe place, with someone he could trust, so he
wouldn't be tempted to go blast someone.
They were more worried over his guns than anything else.
I don't know what the outcome was but thank Christ he didn't let Dick
Cheney hold them for him <g>
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Regards,
John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.
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Prepair Ltd - 28 Feb 2006 11:31 GMT
>The funniest post I saw was one where Gunners wife had pissed off and
>left him for the local milkman.
Gunner, Dave Albrecht and a few others had the 'following' (for want of a better
expression) on the newsgroup to make it better, but they didn't and let things
ramble on to the point where it is just a shadow of what it was when 'teenut'
was alive, he was generally respected and an Englishman to boot....
Peter
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Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK
prepair@easynet.co.uk
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John Stevenson - 28 Feb 2006 13:17 GMT
>>The funniest post I saw was one where Gunners wife had pissed off and
>>left him for the local milkman.
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>Peter
Very true Peter.
The main problem is that Usenet isn't moderated and so is open to
abuse.
I spend most of my computer time on Yahoo subject specific groups,
most of which are moderated and about 3 BBS's, again where there is
some moderation.
The only Usenet groups I now look at are this one and the Stationary
engine group.
I must admit I did do a search on Dave Bakers post on RCM and thought
it was well put.
Why the cousins had to get in such a state given that most elected
party's are for themselves first, country second says a lot.
If the same had been said about Gordon Brown and Tony Blair there
would have been a rush for tickets..................
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Regards,
John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.
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