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Broken Anilam DRO

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Dave Baker - 27 Feb 2006 16:01 GMT
My old mill has an Anilam DRO on both axes, fitted by persons unknown long
before I bought it. The fore and aft one is a bit too short for the travel
of the table so said persons unknown screwed a 3" steel bar into the back of
the saddle which hits the column and limits the travel to just under the
length of the DRO. This broke off years ago but I know how far I can take
the table back without smashing the DRO out of the end of its housing. I
explained this in great detail to my gormless ex assistant, now thankfully
departed, but the first time he used the mill he promptly forgot, wound the
table right back against the column and broke the DRO.

Basically the travelling bit of the DRO broke the end cap off the aluminium
slide tube, burst out into the world for the first time to have a look round
and in the process cracked the little mirrored thingy that runs up and down
the glass slide. This 'thingy' was sprung loaded into a little circuit board
type affair. It's not completely smashed but is cracked in several places. I
cleaned everything up, figured how things went back together and
re-assembled it and lo and beyold it worked for a time. However last week it
had failed again. Sometimes it would register for a bit and then the readout
would freeze again. Maybe it's the damp weather and perhaps another clean
would affect a temporary cure but it really needs a new thingy.

What are my chances of finding a new or s/h thingy without it costing a
fortune and what's the thingy's proper name? Is the thingy likely to be the
same one for many models of DRO or do I need to find a model number for my
DRO to make sure I get the right one?
--
Dave Baker
www.pumaracing.co.uk
Tim Leech - 27 Feb 2006 16:32 GMT
>My old mill has an Anilam DRO on both axes, fitted by persons unknown long
>before I bought it. The fore and aft one is a bit too short for the travel
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>same one for many models of DRO or do I need to find a model number for my
>DRO to make sure I get the right one?

Is the scale a great chunky thing, or fairly 'slimline' & modern
looking? If the former, I might have some old bits you could play with
in an attempt to revive yours.

Cheers
Tim

Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service
Dave Baker - 27 Feb 2006 17:21 GMT
> Is the scale a great chunky thing, or fairly 'slimline' & modern
> looking? If the former, I might have some old bits you could play with
> in an attempt to revive yours.

Hi Tim,

From memory the aluminium tube the scale is housed in is about 1" wide by
1.75" high. Whether that makes it chunky or slimline I wouldn't know. I've
had the mill nearly 15 years and the DRO was fitted several years before
that so it's at least 20 years old if that helps. I'll measure properly next
time I'm in the workshop though and also see if any model number is marked
on it. I'll also remove the 'thingy' and measure and photograph it. Many
thanks for the offer :)
--
Dave Baker
www.pumaracing.co.uk
Dave Baker - 27 Feb 2006 20:17 GMT
> Is the scale a great chunky thing, or fairly 'slimline' & modern
> looking? If the former, I might have some old bits you could play with
> in an attempt to revive yours.

Found out what it is thanks to this very helpful website

http://www.auto-met.com/anilam/anilam/ReaderHead%20Guide/70000339.htm

My scale has System A on the label and the reader head has System A-10 on it
which makes it an A-10 Quantum Scale made between 1983 and 1989. The box
dimensions (22mm x 37mm) agree with the drawing.

According to the drawing on this page.

http://www.auto-met.com/anilam/linear_encoders.htm

the name of the bit I'm after is the 'Index Plate' inside the reader head.

Whether I'll ever find one is another matter but at least I now know what
I'm looking for.
--
Dave Baker
www.pumaracing.co.uk
Charles Ping - 27 Feb 2006 22:25 GMT
>the name of the bit I'm after is the 'Index Plate' inside the reader head.
>
>Whether I'll ever find one is another matter but at least I now know what
>I'm looking for.

A fair amount of older Anilam stuff turns up on the US version of
Ebay. It is, after all, a US company.
I would suggest asking on RCM but you might be a bit short of
mates.....

Regards

Charles
Dave Baker - 27 Feb 2006 23:13 GMT
> >the name of the bit I'm after is the 'Index Plate' inside the reader head.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I would suggest asking on RCM but you might be a bit short of
> mates.....

Lol. Well amongst the Republicans maybe. Odds are that half of them are
Democrats though.
--
Dave Baker
www.pumaracing.co.uk
Charles Ping - 28 Feb 2006 06:44 GMT
>> mates.....
>
>Lol. Well amongst the Republicans maybe. Odds are that half of them are
>Democrats though.

Somehow I figure that RCM isn't that balanced.
Anyway the democrats keep their heads down in case the NRA faction
catch them in the cross hairs.

Charles
Peter A Forbes - 28 Feb 2006 07:41 GMT
>>> mates.....
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Charles

It used to be a good newsgroup, but is almost a complete waste of time these
days if you have anything relating to metalworking.

Peter
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Dave Baker - 28 Feb 2006 08:29 GMT
> >>> mates.....
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> It used to be a good newsgroup, but is almost a complete waste of time these
> days if you have anything relating to metalworking.

It was the first newsgroup I got involved in 7 years ago and the main one I
used to enjoy participating in. We used to have some really good debates
about both metalworking and engines. Then 911 happened and some of the
people started to show their true colours. Calls for all the 'ragheads' to
be bombed into oblivion regardless of where they were, who they were or
whether they'd actually had anything to do with 911. The sentiment displayed
was so vile and abhorrent I couldn't participate anymore and deleted the
group from my list. I looked back in briefly a couple of years ago and also
recently but half the bandwidth is still squabbling between the pro and anti
Bush and the pro and anti Gulf war brigade.

America has always been a very paranoid and jingoistic country. McCarthyism,
the cold war, reds under the bed, you some kinda pinko commie lovin sumbitch
then boy? etc etc. Either you're for them or against them. Very little
middle ground and a tendency to just lash out at anything that doesn't agree
with their world view. I find it fascinating though but also disturbing. On
the more cosmopolitan east and west coasts the attitudes, and the voting, is
much more liberal and enlightened. Unfortunately there's a big swath of
insular, isolated right wing republicans running down the centre of the
country who think that America is god's own country, the only country in the
world worth a damn and probably have very little idea of where any other
country actually is on a map.

I've often wondered whether the internet will gradually erode this insular
behaviour but if so it isn't happening fast enough.
--
Dave Baker
www.pumaracing.co.uk
Adrian Godwin - 28 Feb 2006 09:09 GMT
> I've often wondered whether the internet will gradually erode this insular
> behaviour but if so it isn't happening fast enough.

I suspect that, for some people, exposure to other views simply
reinforces their prejudices.

Along the lines of 'nothing narrows the mind like travel'.

-adrian
John Stevenson - 28 Feb 2006 09:42 GMT
>It was the first newsgroup I got involved in 7 years ago and the main one I
>used to enjoy participating in. We used to have some really good debates
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>I've often wondered whether the internet will gradually erode this insular
>behaviour but if so it isn't happening fast enough.

I very rarely agree with Ower Gert without an argument but I do in
this case when she says America is a young country and has a lot of
growing up to do.

One thing they can't grasp is the ability to take the piss out of
themselves and get away with it.
Brit's and Ozzies have had much experience of this and are wiser for
it.

You only have to look at US humour to appreciate this and the
Simpson's about describe it all.

It's called dumbing down of the masses.

At the height of the Vietnam war ABC, CNN or someone went into Times
Square, not the outback, and  had a large map of the world with no
names on it and asked people to point out Vietnam.
90% pointed to Australia as it was the largest country in that area.
They had no idea of foreign affairs and couldn't grasp that the great
US of A was fighting in some tinpot swamp.

As Dave says RCM was a good group but they can't keep on topic for
more than 20 seconds, the Simpson's memory span, and then it all falls
apart into guns and religion.
I have no interest in guns despite being a sub contractor to Heckler
and Kosh at one point but they couldn't see why we are no all revved
up over guns.
One guy even posted "Why if you are an engineer can't you appreciate
the work that goes into a gun?"

I replied "there is a damn sight more skill , design and work goes
into a typewriter but I don't see you guys getting revved up over
typewriters and sewing machines"
There was no reply to that one.

The funniest post I saw was one where Gunners wife had pissed off and
left him for the local milkman.
All the regulars were posting in telling him to move his gun
collection to a safe place, with someone he could trust, so he
wouldn't be tempted to go blast someone.
They were more worried over his guns than anything else.
I don't know what the outcome was but thank Christ he didn't let Dick
Cheney hold them for him  <g>

--
Regards,

John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.

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Prepair Ltd - 28 Feb 2006 11:31 GMT
>The funniest post I saw was one where Gunners wife had pissed off and
>left him for the local milkman.

Gunner, Dave Albrecht and a few others had the 'following' (for want of a better
expression) on the newsgroup to make it better, but they didn't and let things
ramble on to the point where it is just a shadow of what it was when 'teenut'
was alive, he was generally respected and an Englishman to boot....

Peter
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Peter A Forbes
Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK
prepair@easynet.co.uk
http://www.prepair.co.uk
John Stevenson - 28 Feb 2006 13:17 GMT
>>The funniest post I saw was one where Gunners wife had pissed off and
>>left him for the local milkman.
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>
>Peter

Very true Peter.
The main problem is that Usenet isn't moderated and so is open to
abuse.
I spend most of my computer time on Yahoo subject specific groups,
most of which are moderated and about 3 BBS's, again where there is
some moderation.
The only Usenet groups I now look at are this one and the Stationary
engine group.

I must admit I did do a search on Dave Bakers post on RCM and thought
it was well put.
Why the cousins had to get in such a state given that most elected
party's are  for themselves first, country second says a lot.

If the same had been said about Gordon Brown and Tony Blair there
would have been a rush for tickets..................

--
Regards,

John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.

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Tim Leech - 27 Feb 2006 22:27 GMT
>> Is the scale a great chunky thing, or fairly 'slimline' & modern
>> looking? If the former, I might have some old bits you could play with
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>which makes it an A-10 Quantum Scale made between 1983 and 1989. The box
>dimensions (22mm x 37mm) agree with the drawing.

It looks as though what I have are bits of MBT scales, so probably of
no use to you. I have some later ones, but they have their fate
already planned <g>

Cheers
Tim

Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service
Wayne Weedon - 27 Feb 2006 17:44 GMT
> What are my chances of finding a new or s/h thingy without it costing a
> fortune and what's the thingy's proper name? Is the thingy likely to
be the
> same one for many models of DRO or do I need to find a model number
for my
> DRO to make sure I get the right one?

The "thingy" is a linear scale.   There are several types, and I'm not
sure which type Anilam fitted.  Never did like their stuff personally;-)

Most likely it's quadrature output but some like Heidenhains are
analogue.    I've repaired lots of heidenhains succesfully so you may be
able to do it, if you cant find a s/h one.

Wayne...
 
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