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Stephen Woolhead - 11 Sep 2006 17:54 GMT
Hi all, I need to cut a long (~500mm) taper on my lathe that is longer than
the travel on the top slide.  Are there any gadgets/ideas that will let me
do this in a single pass?

I have a Colchester Triumph 2000 BTW.

Cheers,

Stephen.
Wayne Weedon - 11 Sep 2006 18:01 GMT
> Hi all, I need to cut a long (~500mm) taper on my lathe that is longer than
> the travel on the top slide.  Are there any gadgets/ideas that will let me
> do this in a single pass?
>
> I have a Colchester Triumph 2000 BTW.

Is the taper shallow enough to setover the tailstock and do it between
centres?

Or there's always the boring head in the tailstock as per John S's
pictures.   Did you originate that John?

Other than that it's CNC or taper turning attachments..

Wayne....
Stephen Woolhead - 11 Sep 2006 18:16 GMT
>> Hi all, I need to cut a long (~500mm) taper on my lathe that is longer
>> than the travel on the top slide.  Are there any gadgets/ideas that will
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> Is the taper shallow enough to setover the tailstock and do it between
> centres?

Can't do that unfortunately.

> Or there's always the boring head in the tailstock as per John S's
> pictures.   Did you originate that John?

Thanks for the reply, does he keep these pics online anywhere?

Guess I'll have to go looking for a taper turning attachment for it.

Stephen.
Wayne Weedon - 11 Sep 2006 19:36 GMT
> Can't do that unfortunately.

Too steep an angle?   What is the angle you are looking for?

>> Or there's always the boring head in the tailstock as per John S's
>> pictures.   Did you originate that John?
>
> Thanks for the reply, does he keep these pics online anywhere?

Somewhere!   Hopefully he'll chime in.   But basically it's a pretty
stock milling boring head mounted in the tailstock, with a centre in one
of the boring bar sockets.   You can then dial in your taper by
offsetting the centre.

> Guess I'll have to go looking for a taper turning attachment for it.

They are a pain in the a.s as far as I'm concerned.  I've got one on the
M300 clone I have.   I disabled it.   But then I have CNC lathes at hand
so it's no big deal.

Wayne...
Stephen Woolhead - 12 Sep 2006 00:43 GMT
"Wayne Weedon" <wayne@fdos-design.com> wrote in message

>> Can't do that unfortunately.
>
> Too steep an angle?   What is the angle you are looking for?

Have a look here
http://www.perfectphase.com/Mousse/Pages/CategorySelect.aspx?CatID=149

I need to build a larger lighter version of this, to replace this damaged
prototype :)

It's built in sections that are interferenced fitted together (you can see
where the first joint I tried didn't go so well on this one :) then I just
need to skim down the outside to give it a smooth finish.

I'd have to offset the tailstock end over 3" plus the base would have to
have a plug made and the part mounted via that.

> They are a pain in the a.s as far as I'm concerned.  I've got one on the
> M300 clone I have.   I disabled it.   But then I have CNC lathes at hand
> so it's no big deal.

I've been meaning to bodge some CNC onto this lathe at some point, nothing
to accurate, just something to help with compound curves, must get round to
that one day, well the winter build season is coming :)

Stephen.
Tim Leech - 12 Sep 2006 09:22 GMT
>"Wayne Weedon" <wayne@fdos-design.com> wrote in message
>>
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>to accurate, just something to help with compound curves, must get round to
>that one day, well the winter build season is coming :)

Compound curves?
You really *do* need a hydraulic copier <VBG>

Cheers
Tim

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Stephen Woolhead - 12 Sep 2006 12:53 GMT
> Compound curves?
> You really *do* need a hydraulic copier <VBG>

I am tempted :)  But it needs a 3 phase power supply correct?

What sort of money are you looking for it?

Stephen.
Tim Leech - 12 Sep 2006 21:04 GMT
>> Compound curves?
>> You really *do* need a hydraulic copier <VBG>
>
>I am tempted :)  But it needs a 3 phase power supply correct?

Yes, it does have a 3-phase motor. I'll check whether it's dual
voltage (suitable for VFD) or not.

>What sort of money are you looking for it?

Can't remember what I paid for it. Got it off ebay last year, then
decided to swap the lathe instead (I wanted it for doing tapers). May
have paid a bit over the odds, but it's a late model, very tidy, with
all the bits while most seem to have lost stuff, usually rails or rail
fittings, on the way. I'll track it down, then think of a number &
contact you off-list.

Cheers
Tim

Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service
Tim Leech - 28 Sep 2006 22:06 GMT
>> Compound curves?
>> You really *do* need a hydraulic copier <VBG>
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>
>Stephen.

Sorry I haven't got back sooner.
It is a dual voltage motor, 370Watt (1/2 hp) so would run from a small
inverter/VFD.
I'm looking for 200 quid.
They do go for less sometimes, but often with important bits missing,
& as I noted earlier this is a very late model.

email me off list if interested.

Tim

Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service
willowkevin - 11 Sep 2006 20:31 GMT
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527876&highlight=taper+turning+b
oring+hea

its a clever fix !

--
willowkevi
Wayne Weedon - 11 Sep 2006 23:36 GMT
> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527876&highlight=taper+turning+b
oring+head

> its a clever fix !!

Well thats the pic I was thinking of.   So the original poster doesn't
have to look too hard here's the direct link to Johns pic.

"http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/hidden/taperset.jpg"

Wayne....
Tim Leech - 11 Sep 2006 21:07 GMT
>Hi all, I need to cut a long (~500mm) taper on my lathe that is longer than
>the travel on the top slide.  Are there any gadgets/ideas that will let me
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Stephen.

A hydraulic copier <g>

Of course the fact that I have one that I no longer need, which IIRC
came off a Triumph 2000, has nothing to do with that suggestion <VBG>

Tim

Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service
 
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