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Bridgeport series 1 with Heidenhain DRO

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Emimec - 10 Dec 2006 07:30 GMT
When switching from metric to imperial, all that happens is the decimal
point moves over 1. Movement of a slide is still metric? To clarify... move
handle on table so dial moves between divisions, .020 mm I think. DRO gives
the same in metric, but 0.20 in imperial?
Am I going mad ???
Bob
Tim Leech - 10 Dec 2006 08:21 GMT
>When switching from metric to imperial, all that happens is the decimal
>point moves over 1. Movement of a slide is still metric? To clarify... move
>handle on table so dial moves between divisions, .020 mm I think. DRO gives
>the same in metric, but 0.20 in imperial?
>Am I going mad ???
>Bob

The older Heidenhain DROs, the ones with the VCR-shaped box, don't
convert a metric reading to an Imperial, or vice versa. Any reading on
the screen will remain, just with the decimal point moved, Any fresh
table movement will be in the new standard.

Cheers
Tim

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Bob Minchin - 10 Dec 2006 10:57 GMT
> >When switching from metric to imperial, all that happens is the decimal
> >point moves over 1. Movement of a slide is still metric? To clarify... move
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> Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
> Vintage diesel engine service

Even the slightly newer ones that are squarer don't do the conversion
either - model 731 (?) from memory
Emimec - 10 Dec 2006 17:12 GMT
>>When switching from metric to imperial, all that happens is the decimal
>>point moves over 1. Movement of a slide is still metric? To clarify...
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> Cheers
> Tim

Thanks all
I must admit I don't recall seeing a new standard when moving the dial more,
will study this on Monday.
On the subject of the MDI, anyone got a spare Heidenhain power board, or
knowledge to fault find?
Bob
Wayne Weedon - 10 Dec 2006 19:24 GMT
> On the subject of the MDI, anyone got a spare Heidenhain power board, or
> knowledge to fault find?
> Bob

Bob.   The first thing to look at might be the electrolytic capacitors.
    After all this time they could be getting pretty dodgy.

I have a tnc145 power board here, but it's a non working unit.   Never
did have time to look at it.

Wayne....
Emimec - 10 Dec 2006 20:01 GMT
>> On the subject of the MDI, anyone got a spare Heidenhain power board, or
>> knowledge to fault find?
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>
> Wayne....

If you get time to sort it, or want to sell it in its present state, let me
know, I'm very interested. I can live with not switching the machine off for
a while, but would prefer the board to be "right", experience has proved to
me that when a last minute job is in the machine, that's when they act up !!
Bob
Emimec - 10 Dec 2006 20:10 GMT
>>> On the subject of the MDI, anyone got a spare Heidenhain power board, or
>>> knowledge to fault find?
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>>
>> Wayne....

Didnt realise electrolytic capaciters can degrade with age ? I have to add
I'm no electronic bod.
Bob
Andrew Bishop - 10 Dec 2006 20:19 GMT
>>>> On the subject of the MDI, anyone got a spare Heidenhain power board,
>>>> or knowledge to fault find?
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> I'm no electronic bod.
> Bob

It's common on  switch mode power supplies  the can dry out in hot equipment
and are fine while running but after being turned of and cooling down the
switch mode power supply will fail to start up again I have a SLR meter some
where that checks them in circuit
for the cost its worth replacing them to see if the fault is cured
Andrew
Emimec - 10 Dec 2006 20:32 GMT
> It's common on  switch mode power supplies  the can dry out in hot
> equipment
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> for the cost its worth replacing them to see if the fault is cured
> Andrew

Very interesting, and thank you, My ignorance is starting to show now, I
have no idea what a switch mode power supply is, or a SLR ?
Bob
Andrew Bishop - 12 Dec 2006 21:49 GMT
>> It's common on  switch mode power supplies  the can dry out in hot
>> equipment
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> have no idea what a switch mode power supply is, or a SLR ?
> Bob

Should of read ESR see this linkhttp://xtronics.com/reference/esr.htm
Emimec - 12 Dec 2006 22:01 GMT
>>> It's common on  switch mode power supplies  the can dry out in hot
>>> equipment
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>
> Should of read ESR see this linkhttp://xtronics.com/reference/esr.htm

Thanks, as clear as mud now !!! I think thats one for someone with far more
knowledge than me. I'm sure somewhere in there, was an answer or reasoning.
Hopefully one of my college bods may decypher it for me.
Kind Regards
Bob
Nick Mueller - 11 Dec 2006 08:58 GMT
> for the cost its worth replacing them to see if the fault is cured

... and it is important, that the new caps have at least the same max.
temperature.

Nick
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Wayne Weedon - 12 Dec 2006 15:12 GMT
>> for the cost its worth replacing them to see if the fault is cured
>
> .... and it is important, that the new caps have at least the same max.
> temperature.

Also voltage rating and last and not least that they are soldered in the
correct way around!

Wayne...
Emimec - 12 Dec 2006 18:53 GMT
>>> for the cost its worth replacing them to see if the fault is cured
>>
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>
> Wayne...

Wayne
Would you consider selling the faulty board you mentioned earlier in this
thread?
Bob
Andrew Mawson - 12 Dec 2006 19:20 GMT
> >>> for the cost its worth replacing them to see if the fault is cured
> >>
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> thread?
> Bob

Bob,

A Bridgeport MDI has just popped up on eBay - £750 at the moment -
might get you out of trouble.

AWEM
Emimec - 12 Dec 2006 20:22 GMT
>> >>> for the cost its worth replacing them to see if the fault is
> cured
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>
> AWEM

The one on Ebay looks awful compared to my machine. My one works ok at the
moment, I will change the capacitors on the main board over the xmas period.
I was only asking about the faulty board as I have a machine that can take
it, and it could be worth my while getting it repaired ready for a quick
swop over, thus keeping the machine in production. I am also open to a
"service exchange". It is no real problem for me to leave it on and dim the
screen and hit the cut out button while I'm not using it. To be honest, it
does fire up sometimes straight away, but when you really need it, it
doesnt, and I have to switch it on and off countless times. Makes me think
the capacitors are gradually reaching a peak before working?
Bob
Nick Mueller - 13 Dec 2006 10:49 GMT
> and I have to switch it on and off countless times. Makes me think
> the capacitors are gradually reaching a peak before working?

That, or the switch nearing his end of life. The switch is easily checked.

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Emimec - 14 Dec 2006 20:55 GMT
>> and I have to switch it on and off countless times. Makes me think
>> the capacitors are gradually reaching a peak before working?
>
> That, or the switch nearing his end of life. The switch is easily checked.
>
> Nick
Switch was checked, and its ok
Bob
Wayne Weedon - 12 Dec 2006 20:41 GMT
> Wayne
> Would you consider selling the faulty board you mentioned earlier in this
> thread?
> Bob

Bob

Take a look at

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/fdosdesign/temp/Copy%20of%20tnc_psu_front.jpg

and

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/fdosdesign/temp/Copy%20of%20tnc_psu_back.jpg

Tell me if it's the correct type for your control.

Have no idea whats wrong with it, it came with another control, and was
probably the original PSU.

I can let you know what other boards I still have if you like.

Wayne....
Emimec - 12 Dec 2006 21:19 GMT
>> Wayne
>> Would you consider selling the faulty board you mentioned earlier in this
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>
> Wayne....

Yes, that's my one..... I would be interested also in your other boards,
many thanks.
If you prefer to contact me privately, please do so.
Bob
Emimec - 14 Dec 2006 20:56 GMT
>> Wayne
>> Would you consider selling the faulty board you mentioned earlier in this
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>
> Wayne....

Wayne
Would you let me know if you are willing to sell this board please
Bob
 
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