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Clarkson Collets

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mark - 18 Dec 2006 14:32 GMT
I have a Clarkson autolock collet chuck with my mill, and it has a set
of imperial collets with it. However, I need to use a cutter with a
metric (16mm) shank - and the 5/8 collet is _just_ too small!

Anyway, my problem is that I cannot seem to find clarkson collets like
mine. They are very similar to this one on eBlag
(http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3A
IT&viewitem=&item=160063663290&rd=1&rd=1
)
but mine are fully round at the top (ie don't have the flats) and have
two uprights on the top which locate in the chuck boday (and server the
same purpose as the flats).

Do I need to look for a different sort of collet? If so, do they have a
name? Or are mine some kind of home hybrid bodged version?

Thanks
Mark
Emimec - 18 Dec 2006 15:49 GMT
>I have a Clarkson autolock collet chuck with my mill, and it has a set
> of imperial collets with it. However, I need to use a cutter with a
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> Thanks
> Mark

Mark
You have the old style of collet, with two uprights, which fits the old
style holder. The newer ones, are with 2 flats as in the picture on the link
provided.
Bob
Emimec - 18 Dec 2006 17:13 GMT
>I have a Clarkson autolock collet chuck with my mill, and it has a set
> of imperial collets with it. However, I need to use a cutter with a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Thanks
> Mark

I forgot to add that the newer type are classed as the "S" type
Bob
mark - 18 Dec 2006 19:02 GMT
> I forgot to add that the newer type are classed as the "S" type
> Bob

Thanks for the info, but do the older ones have a similar kind of name?

Thanks
Mark
Martin Whybrow - 18 Dec 2006 20:42 GMT
> > I forgot to add that the newer type are classed as the "S" type
> > Bob
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> Thanks
> Mark

Mark, I believe the type you have are C type; they often turn up on  the
'bay but aren't as popular as the S type so can be cheaper.
Martin
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Emimec - 18 Dec 2006 21:48 GMT
>> I forgot to add that the newer type are classed as the "S" type
>> Bob
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> Thanks
> Mark

Mark
If you get trouble finding these, I might have a chuck and a couple of
collets lying around..
You should note that the older type that you have use a tapered closing
sleeve between the collet and the body of the chuck. The newer type "S" does
not.
Bob
mark - 18 Dec 2006 22:16 GMT
I had heard of C and S-Type collets, but never really knew what that
meant - I had thought it may be to with the size....

Mine does indeed have the tapered outer sleeve, so I guess it must
indeed be c-Type.

Thanks very much for the information. If you do happen to have any
collets lying around I would be more than interested.

Thanks
Mark
Steve Larner - 19 Dec 2006 20:18 GMT
[QUOTE=mark]I had heard of C and S-Type collets, but neve
really knew what that
meant - I had thought it may be to with the size....

Mine does indeed have the tapered outer sleeve, so I guess it must
indeed be c-Type.

Thanks very much for the information. If you do happen to have any
collets lying around I would be more than interested.

Thanks
Mark

Try contacting RDG at there shop.

http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/

They have loads of collets in the shop.

Steve Larne

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mark - 20 Dec 2006 21:30 GMT
Thanks for the suggestion of RDG, I have used them before, and they
have been very helpful.

I tried G&M Tools today as they are just down the road, only to be told
that the older, C type collets were never made in imperial sizes... Is
this true? Am I going to have to modify a 5/8" one to accommodate a
16mm shank?

Thanks
Mark
John Stevenson - 20 Dec 2006 21:55 GMT
>Thanks for the suggestion of RDG, I have used them before, and they
>have been very helpful.
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>Thanks
>Mark

Bollocks.
If anything they would never have been made in metric.
When the C type was relevant Clarkson and Herbert's ruled the known
world.
France was still smarting from Wellington giving stumpy a good hiding.

If you can hang on till after Xmas I think I may have some blanks
turned up out off silver steel, unfinished on bore and drive pins from
when i had one of these chucks.
Can't check before as the big silver bird beckons, if the fog clears.
Just hope that bloke with the scrambled egg on his jacket knows where
the end of the runway is ...................................

.
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Regards,

John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.

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mark - 20 Dec 2006 22:45 GMT
Err, I just re-read what I wrote. I was told they were never made in
Metric, ie were only made in imperial... think I got confused halfway
through my sentence...

Anyway, John, unhardened blanks would be very much appreciated.

Does anyone know what the thread will be at the end of the collet?

Thanks
Mark
John Stevenson - 20 Dec 2006 23:36 GMT
>Err, I just re-read what I wrote. I was told they were never made in
>Metric, ie were only made in imperial... think I got confused halfway
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Thanks
>Mark

OK, I'll have a look when I get back.
Thread is always  shank diameter x 20 even if it's metric so 6mm x 20
but 1/4 x 20 whit is fine. 16mm will manage with 5/8" x 20
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Regards,

John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.

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Steve Larner - 20 Dec 2006 23:16 GMT
[QUOTE=mark]Thanks for the suggestion of RDG, I have used the
before, and they
have been very helpful.

I tried G&M Tools today as they are just down the road, only to b
told
that the older, C type collets were never made in imperial sizes... Is
this true? Am I going to have to modify a 5/8" one to accommodate a
16mm shank?

Thanks
Mark

Must have been one of there off days.

These pages from there web site list metric and imperial C type collets.

http://www.gandmtools.com/cat_leaf.php?id=2432

http://www.gandmtools.com/cat_leaf.php?id=2809

http://www.gandmtools.com/cat_leaf.php?id=815

Steve Larne

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