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Emimec - 26 Mar 2007 22:14 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has lying around a 5 step pulley to fit an old
Pacera drill.

In an ideal world, I would also like to find the broached bearing sleeve
that the pulley fits on.

Meddings no longer have spares for this old drill other than return springs.
Bob
Mark Rand - 27 Mar 2007 13:30 GMT
>Just wondering if anyone has lying around a 5 step pulley to fit an old
>Pacera drill.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Meddings no longer have spares for this old drill other than return springs.
>Bob

Any other bits as well?

I've got a Pacera drill that has only been used for driving a 5" diamond core
drill through the workshop floor in the last 4 years and is only likely to be
used for similar duty in the future.

Mark Rand
RTFM
bigegg - 27 Mar 2007 16:16 GMT
> I've got a Pacera drill that has only been used for driving a 5" diamond core
> drill through the workshop floor in the last 4 years

!

how deep is the hole?!!!?

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Mark Rand - 27 Mar 2007 17:40 GMT
>> I've got a Pacera drill that has only been used for driving a 5" diamond core
>> drill through the workshop floor in the last 4 years
>
>!
>
>how deep is the hole?!!!?

Four foot! Although, to be fair, only the last 9" was through concrete :-)

'Twas for making the sump that the pit drainage pump sits in larger.

Mark Rand (you did ask)
RTFM
Emimec - 27 Mar 2007 18:25 GMT
>>Just wondering if anyone has lying around a 5 step pulley to fit an old
>>Pacera drill.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Not sure the meaning here, you want to get rid of it?
Bob
Mark Rand - 27 Mar 2007 19:39 GMT
>> Any other bits as well?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Not sure the meaning here, you want to get rid of it?
>Bob

Basically, I've got more pillar drills than I need and the Pacera is only ever
going to be used for jobs that you wouldn't want to use your best drill for.

So if you've got a drill that could benefit from the bits, they're yours.

Was it only the pulley and quill that you needed or should I remove anything
else from it?

I've forgotten where you are, I'm in Rugby.

regards
Mark Rand
RTFM
Emimec - 27 Mar 2007 20:25 GMT
>>> Any other bits as well?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Many thanks
I need the 5 step (I think it was a 5 step, not 6 ) pulley at the quill end,
and the bit it fits to. This being  the bearing carrier set into the head
casting, ( which was a b'strd to get out!! ) with the broached hole that
accepts the spindle drive. I would be happy to recompense and feel free to
"Chat" via my private email.
As you rightly say, "Pacera" is not for "best" but I have several drills
permanently set to do a specific job. This one only taps a 4mm thread, but
the saving of time setting up is worthwhile.
This would then leave you with a part drill? if not acceptable please
advise.
I'm in Enfield, North London
Regards
Bob
Emimec - 30 Mar 2007 16:08 GMT
>>> Any other bits as well?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Hi Mark
Please advise if and when these parts may be available. I'm worried you may
have replied on my private email and it got chewed up by mistake in the spam
thingy.
Bob
Mark Rand - 30 Mar 2007 18:32 GMT
>Hi Mark
>Please advise if and when these parts may be available. I'm worried you may
>have replied on my private email and it got chewed up by mistake in the spam
>thingy.
>Bob

No, I hadn't emailed you. Another chap did email asking for the belt cover.
Trouble is that I dropped that some years back and it snapped in two. I
volunteered to weld the halves back together if I could find them, but I'm
worried that they might have been thrown out.

The parts should be available when I can get them off the drill. The drill
itself is available now if you wanted to get the bits off it!

regards
Mark Rand
RTFM
Emimec - 30 Mar 2007 20:23 GMT
>>Hi Mark
>>Please advise if and when these parts may be available. I'm worried you
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Many thanks, not sure now what's best. If I were round the corner I'd take
the drill complete. Shipping a whole drill is messy to post. I will contact
my son who may be able to get one of his courier guys to collect, if not,
looks like plan B, go for the bits.
Regards
Bob
Emimec - 31 Mar 2007 08:06 GMT
>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:08:43 +0100, "Emimec"
>> <emimec@NOSPAMbtinternet.com>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Regards
> Bob

Mark
Oooops !!
I didnt read your last post properly. Thought it said take the whole thing,
sorry, realise now it says take the parts off.
This will have to be plan B then,  I will await postage and compensation
amounts from your good self.
Regards
Bob
Mark Rand - 31 Mar 2007 12:29 GMT
>>> No, I hadn't emailed you. Another chap did email asking for the belt
>>> cover.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>Regards
>Bob

Since I haven't actually found the belt guard, you are quite welcome to the
entire thing apart from that If one of your sons couriers was passing by soon
enough for you. Otherwise, unless you needed the other bits, then posting the
pulley and broached bit is going to be seriously cheaper.

I'll have a go at getting the bits off this evening after I've finished
gardening tasks (if I am not a quadriplegic cripple due to too much digging by
then).

Regards
Mark Rand
RTFM
Emimec - 02 Apr 2007 21:51 GMT
> I'll have a go at getting the bits off this evening after I've finished
> gardening tasks (if I am not a quadriplegic cripple due to too much
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Hi Mark
Any joy ?
Bob
Mark Rand - 03 Apr 2007 19:37 GMT
>> I'll have a go at getting the bits off this evening after I've finished
>> gardening tasks (if I am not a quadriplegic cripple due to too much
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Any joy ?
>Bob

At present, I am open to suggestions for removing the pulley without
destroying  it... The grubscrew has been removed. penetrating oil (actually,
ether, kerosene and a drop of oil) has been applied and the pulley has been
heated as hot as I would want to take zinc (about 150 C).

So far, the pulley hasn't, yet, come free. I might have to turn up a clamp
ring to spread the load so that I can use a puller on it without wrecking the
pulley flanges.

It's older than JS, it's got an excuse to be curmudgeonly :-)

Mark Rand
RTFM
Alan Bain - 03 Apr 2007 23:08 GMT
>At present, I am open to suggestions for removing the pulley without
>destroying  it... The grubscrew has been removed. penetrating oil (actually,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>ring to spread the load so that I can use a puller on it without wrecking the
>pulley flanges.

I had a go at a similar job recently and now need a new Picador 5M pulley
(2-3-4-5).  My "solution" was to make a puller out of two pieces of
1/4" steel with M8 studding between and and M8 bolt in the top piece.
All that happened was the top piece of 1/4 steel bent.  I also tried heat
penetrating oil all to availal.  When it came off it was in three pieces!

There was mushrooming on the opposite end of the shaft which I had
to turn down in order to get the bearings off so I guess the clearly
non-original pulley may have been fitted with the aid of the nearest
handy hydraulic press.

As a side effect; if anyone has a spare 5M pulley (Z section belt) I'd
be interested in buying it.  
 
Alan
Trevor Jones - 04 Apr 2007 00:22 GMT
>>>I'll have a go at getting the bits off this evening after I've finished
>>>gardening tasks (if I am not a quadriplegic cripple due to too much
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM
 Check down the hole for a second grub screw.

 BTDT Broke the part learning it.

 Cheers
  Trevor Jones
Emimec - 04 Apr 2007 17:52 GMT
>>> I'll have a go at getting the bits off this evening after I've finished
>>> gardening tasks (if I am not a quadriplegic cripple due to too much
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Interesting, My one was a B'strd to get off as well. Totally destroyed it in
the process, thinking I could just get one ex stock!!
Bob
Mark Rand - 04 Apr 2007 18:08 GMT
>> At present, I am open to suggestions for removing the pulley without
>> destroying  it... The grubscrew has been removed. penetrating oil
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>the process, thinking I could just get one ex stock!!
>Bob

So I'd better be cautious with this one then?

It looks as if the pulley on the motor may well be identical to the one on the
spindle, so at least that's a second option. I'm going to try to get some
decent penetrating oil down between the pulley and the quill for a few days.
When I've got the lathe unburdened, I'll try to turn up an adaptor to spread
the load onto one or two of the pulley flanges and make a puller for it. I
went as far as I felt safe with levers last night... about 50lbs on each of
two levers with 5-10:1 mechanical advantage.

Can always chisel the drill casting off of the quill I suppose :-)

I'll keep working on it unless I hear that your lad is heading up this way.

Regards
Mark Rand
RTFM
Emimec - 04 Apr 2007 20:48 GMT
>>> At present, I am open to suggestions for removing the pulley without
>>> destroying  it... The grubscrew has been removed. penetrating oil
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

I have put an "alert" on this site to see if someone can offer a sensible
delivery price to save the hassle. Never used them, but worth a shot.
http://www.freightalerts.co.uk/
Mark Rand - 25 Jun 2007 21:19 GMT
>Just wondering if anyone has lying around a 5 step pulley to fit an old
>Pacera drill.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Meddings no longer have spares for this old drill other than return springs.
>Bob

The only thing that went well today was that I finally got round to finishing
a split ring to enable the quill pulley to be pulled off without breaking and
a plug to transfer the puller's force to the bearing sleeve. They worked :-)

I have the pulley off, with only slight damage. The bearing pre-load nuts and
the top bearing cover were easy. It'll be a bit more work to get the bearing
sleeve out, but we're well on the way.

Mark Rand
RTFM
Emimec - 25 Jun 2007 21:43 GMT
>>Just wondering if anyone has lying around a 5 step pulley to fit an old
>>Pacera drill.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Mark
Many thanks for all your trouble, I'll wait patiently
Bob
Mark Rand - 01 Jul 2007 23:26 GMT
>Mark
>Many thanks for all your trouble, I'll wait patiently
>Bob

Got the quill and sleeve out this evening whilst waiting for my firewall/web
server to rebuild. Send me a snail mail address to:-

mark dot rand at itc dot alstom dot com

and I'll post the pulley and sleeve to you (any other bits needed?)

<GEEK>
The reason for sending the snail mail address to my work email is that the
firewall/web server is severely toasted... an upgrade went horribly wrong and
I'm having to rebuild it from scratch. I'm currently connected to the interweb
via a hardware VPN connection to work.
</GEEK>

Mark Rand
RTFM
Emimec - 02 Jul 2007 21:40 GMT
>>Mark
>>Many thanks for all your trouble, I'll wait patiently
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> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Replied as directed. Thanks. Bob
Mark Rand - 31 Aug 2007 16:36 GMT
Incoming!

:-)

Mark Rand
RTFM
Emimec - 31 Aug 2007 21:21 GMT
> Incoming!
>
> :-)
>
> Mark Rand
> RTFM

Excellent, Thanks
Bob
 
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