Hi,
Does anyone here have any information on how to choose a suitable size for a
driveshaft?
I've Googled it but can't seem to find anything suitable.....
Cheers,
Michal
moray - 29 May 2007 12:42 GMT
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone here have any information on how to choose a suitable size for
> a driveshaft?
>
> I've Googled it but can't seem to find anything suitable.....
You need to look at the specs for whatever material you're using, and then
do some calculations.
Try googling for Module of Elasticity (Youngs Modulus? - it's been a while
since I used it), which is a measurement of how much a material will deform,
before becoming permanently deformed. Then with a few calculations, decide
on a safety factor, and you can then look at sizes/different materials
But I'm sure some of the more experienced posters here will probably be able
to quote the relevant details better than I can.
moray - 29 May 2007 13:39 GMT
>> Hi,
>>
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> But I'm sure some of the more experienced posters here will probably be
> able to quote the relevant details better than I can.
And having just checked, Hooke's Law is the more relevant one, along with
yield strength.
I'm currently trying to find the link to a website that lists the specs for
near enough every metal you can think off, but can't seem to find it just
now. Anybody got any ideas?
Mark Rand - 29 May 2007 13:47 GMT
>I'm currently trying to find the link to a website that lists the specs for
>near enough every metal you can think off, but can't seem to find it just
>now. Anybody got any ideas?
http://www.matweb.com
Mark Rand
RTFM
Michael - 29 May 2007 22:16 GMT
>>> Hi,
>>>
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> for near enough every metal you can think off, but can't seem to find it
> just now. Anybody got any ideas?
Hi,
I'm familar with both but must admit I've never thought they could be
applied to radial loads.....
I'll 'go back to school' and see if I can work it out,
Cheers,
Michael
mark - 29 May 2007 15:57 GMT
On 29 May, 12:21, "Michael"
<mQiQcQhQaQeQlQhQiQm...@QbQlQuQeQyQoQnQdQeQrQ.QcQoQ.QuQkQ> wrote:
> Hi,
>
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>
> Michal
Seen on a few cars ...the longest drive shaft has pillbox shaped lump
of steel bolted to it about half way along ...
this means drive shafts twisting action is stopped or lessened/
damped ...and you can get away with smaller diameters.
all the best.mark
Tom - 29 May 2007 19:53 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Michal
For what? A model? An implement? A truck? Possibly a car?
If it's for a car, output and input flanges dictate universal sizes,
span of flanges dictates diameter of tube for stiffness...
Tom

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Michael - 29 May 2007 22:02 GMT
>> Hi,
>>
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>
> Tom
Submarine pumpjet - they're 1.8kW motors so they need some consideration.
I'm trying to work out the smallest size I can get away with as they'll have
to be Stainless and so $$$ (My keyboard is set to US)
Michael
Newshound - 29 May 2007 22:11 GMT
> Submarine pumpjet - they're 1.8kW motors so they need some consideration.
>
> I'm trying to work out the smallest size I can get away with as they'll
> have to be Stainless and so $$$ (My keyboard is set to US)
>
> Michael
You still have to provide more information. Beyond the critical speed
(depends on material, geometry) you'll get synchronous whirl, for example.
Nick Mueller - 29 May 2007 22:15 GMT
> Submarine pumpjet - they're 1.8kW motors so they need some consideration.
You need to give the length and the RPM (or torque).
Nick
Michael - 29 May 2007 22:33 GMT
>> Submarine pumpjet - they're 1.8kW motors so they need some consideration.
>
> You need to give the length and the RPM (or torque).
>
> Nick
Oh sorry - I wasn't looking for someone to give me a figure I was curious as
to the formula/rule of thumb.
No load RPM: 3350
Imperial
Torque: 37.6 lbft
Length: 19.6"
Metric:
Torque: 4.248 Nm
Length 500mm
Michael
mark@ems-fife.co.uk - 29 May 2007 23:49 GMT
On 29 May, 22:33, "Michael"
<mQiQcQhQaQeQlQhQiQm...@QbQlQuQeQyQoQnQdQeQrQ.QcQoQ.QuQkQ> wrote:
> >> Submarine pumpjet - they're 1.8kW motors so they need some consideration.
>
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>
> Michael
Afraid you will need to calculate again.37.6 lbft do not equal 4.248
Nm`s
Michael - 30 May 2007 12:06 GMT
> On 29 May, 22:33, "Michael"
> <mQiQcQhQaQeQlQhQiQm...@QbQlQuQeQyQoQnQdQeQrQ.QcQoQ.QuQkQ> wrote:
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> Afraid you will need to calculate again.37.6 lbft do not equal 4.248
> Nm`s
Sorry I meant lb in
Michael
Nick Mueller - 30 May 2007 11:44 GMT
> Oh sorry - I wasn't looking for someone to give me a figure I was curious
> as to the formula/rule of thumb.
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> Torque: 4.248 Nm
> Length 500mm
4 Nm? Do you have a max OD? I mean, 4Nm is nearly nothing. In terms of "I
pick this 20mm tube and it will work".
Nick
Michael - 30 May 2007 12:10 GMT
>> Oh sorry - I wasn't looking for someone to give me a figure I was curious
>> as to the formula/rule of thumb.
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>
> Nick
I'm trying to find the smallest OD I can get away with.
Thanks I'll look at that page. Every search I did with Google had
'driveshaft' in it somewhere.
Michael
Nick Mueller - 30 May 2007 12:47 GMT
> I'm trying to find the smallest OD I can get away with.
Weight should not be an issue in a sub, so you can use a solid
(cheaper). :-)
Nick
Nick Mueller - 30 May 2007 11:55 GMT
> I've Googled it but can't seem to find anything suitable.....
I have googled for "torsional +stress +formula" and found this:
<http://www.ae.msstate.edu/~masoud/Teaching/SA2/chA6.2_text.html>
It looks quite complete after a quick browsing through.
If you google for "critical +RMP -linux" you should be able to solve the
other problem.
Nick