I want a display base for my Congreve (rolling ball) clock to sit on.
It will then have a perspex cover over it to protect it from dust and
the environment. I would like to use a british hard wood of some type,
oak would be my first choice, but I have heard that the high
concentration of tannin (?) in the wood will cause corrosion of the
unlaquered brass and steel components of the clock. Does anyone have
experience of this, or can anyone recommend alternative woods - beech,
ash, sycamore etc., Does varnish or wax on this type of base cause any
problems? . .
MikeD
Stephen Howard - 28 Aug 2007 18:33 GMT
>I want a display base for my Congreve (rolling ball) clock to sit on.
>It will then have a perspex cover over it to protect it from dust and
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>ash, sycamore etc., Does varnish or wax on this type of base cause any
>problems? . .
Have you considered Walnut or Cherry?
Can't comment as to whether Oak would affect the metal merely by being
in contact with it, or whether a there might be a build-up of
corrosive gas under the cover - but a wax or varnish finish would
probably solve that problem.
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Cliff Coggin - 28 Aug 2007 18:38 GMT
> I want a display base for my Congreve (rolling ball) clock to sit on.
> It will then have a perspex cover over it to protect it from dust and
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>
> MikeD
It's true that the tannic acid in oak will cause a blue stain when in
contact with steel, which is why brass screws should always be used, but I
have never heard of corrosion of either brass or steel solely by vapour
action.
Cliff Coggin
Richard - 28 Aug 2007 19:23 GMT
I'd be very surprised if there were enough tanin in any vapour to
cause a problem and I can't imagine it wouldn't be sorted by
varnishing or waxing the oak. Make sure you do that before fixing
anything metal to the oak, especially anything ferrous which will
create a blue/black stain. I don't recall any staining problems with
steamed oak (boat ribs) in contact with copper (rivets) so I expect
brass will be fine.
Ash is a pretty close alternative to oak from an aesthetic
perspective, much more white and less pink than beech. Another close
visual match to oak is chesnut a little browner than the ash and a far
inferior wood to either from most structural perspectives. I'm
assuming you're not going to stain the wood, one of my own personal
hates - if you're going to dawb it black you may as well use a bit of
deal.
Richard
>I want a display base for my Congreve (rolling ball) clock to sit on.
>It will then have a perspex cover over it to protect it from dust and
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>
>MikeD
Charles Lamont - 29 Aug 2007 00:48 GMT
>>I want a display base for my Congreve (rolling ball) clock to sit on.
>> I would like to use a british hard wood of some type,
>>oak would be my first choice, but
I don't think oak would cause any problem but it would not be my choice
for a display base because of the open grain. Cherry & sycamore will
easily take a fine finish, and both are good to work with. Beech is a
bit dull, and prone to rather a lot of movement in service. Walnut?
I suggest you do not want a showy figure as you want people to look at
the clock, not the base. Try to get a piece that is quarter-sawn, it
will be more stable and the grain will be quieter (unless you do go for
oak).

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Allan Waterfall - 29 Aug 2007 05:18 GMT
You could use a piece of oak faced chipboard for the base and hide th
edges with some oak beading to match. I did something similar i
mahogany for a beam engine I made.One advantage is that the chipboar
is fairly stable.
Alla
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Tim Leech - 29 Aug 2007 09:44 GMT
>>>I want a display base for my Congreve (rolling ball) clock to sit on.
>
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>for a display base because of the open grain. Cherry & sycamore will
>easily take a fine finish, and both are good to work with.
My one experience of sycamore was building our staircase from it, I
found it blunted tools much faster than any of the 'harder' timbers I
had been used to!
Tim
Trevor Jones - 29 Aug 2007 13:55 GMT
> I want a display base for my Congreve (rolling ball) clock to sit on.
> It will then have a perspex cover over it to protect it from dust and
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>
> MikeD
Well, look at the timeframe that this clock would have been current to.
Think "The sun never sets on the Empire!"
Pick what looks best to your eye and have at. A coat of finish is
going to seal off any vapours that may come off the wood anyway, so I
would suggest that that is one of the things lower on the priorities to
consider.
Cheers
Trevor Jones
Mike D - 30 Aug 2007 17:29 GMT
> > I want a display base for my Congreve (rolling ball) clock to sit on.
> > It will then have a perspex cover over it to protect it from dust and
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> Cheers
> Trevor Jones
Well, thanks to all of you who replied. It sounds as though there will
be less of a problem than I feared. Off now to look at some samples of
Cherry and Walnut before I make my mind up. Thanks again.
Mike D