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SERT Gone?

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Jim Guthrie - 30 Oct 2007 08:47 GMT
I hadn't been to the shop for a while,  but popped down on Saturday to
look for a small Jacobs chuck on a 2MT shank,  to find that the Sert
Precision shop in Farnham, near Slough is no more.  It seems to have
become a coffee shop.   That's going to be quite a big loss for me -
my workshop has got a fair few second hand bits and pieces from that
source.

Jim.
Guy Griffin - 30 Oct 2007 12:40 GMT
> I hadn't been to the shop for a while,  but popped down on Saturday to
> look for a small Jacobs chuck on a 2MT shank,  to find that the Sert
> Precision shop in Farnham, near Slough is no more.  It seems to have
> become a coffee shop.   That's going to be quite a big loss for me -
> my workshop has got a fair few second hand bits and pieces from that
> source.

Yep, he closed a while ago (a year?) after selling off all stock, I
believe to look after his wife full-time.  A real shame, as it was a
fantastic source for second-hand tools; must have spent hours there
searching through bins of engineering oddments. I doubt there are any
shops like that left.

Guy
Alan Bain - 30 Oct 2007 21:43 GMT
>> I hadn't been to the shop for a while,  but popped down on Saturday to
>> look for a small Jacobs chuck on a 2MT shank,  to find that the Sert
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>searching through bins of engineering oddments. I doubt there are any
>shops like that left.

That explains why I've been unable to find the mysterious shop in
Farnham about which I had heard good things on several occasions.

Alan
Dave Baker - 30 Oct 2007 13:21 GMT
>I hadn't been to the shop for a while,  but popped down on Saturday to
> look for a small Jacobs chuck on a 2MT shank,  to find that the Sert
> Precision shop in Farnham, near Slough is no more.  It seems to have
> become a coffee shop.   That's going to be quite a big loss for me -
> my workshop has got a fair few second hand bits and pieces from that
> source.

Drat! I'm 5 miles from Farnham and most of my taps, dies, reamers and drills
came from Sert. I was thinking about another trip in the near future to
replenish supplies so that's a major pain if he's gone tits up. I always did
wonder how they managed to keep going though based on the miniscule number
of customers I ever saw in the shop. It's really something you could run
better from home than from a high street shop with the consequent rent and
other overheads. I wonder what happened to the stock?
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Guy Griffin - 30 Oct 2007 14:41 GMT
> Drat! I'm 5 miles from Farnham and most of my taps, dies, reamers and drills
> came from Sert. I was thinking about another trip in the near future to
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> better from home than from a high street shop with the consequent rent and
> other overheads. I wonder what happened to the stock?

He sold it off over a few days - think the local model eng. society
turned up in force and snapped up everything. I wandered in on the last
day and there was little left except arbours & junk, the former of which
I bought (but eyed the junk, just in case :)

He made no secret of the fact the shop was a hobby to get him out of the
house; it made a loss which I presume he could afford. Which is probably
why it was so unique!

Guy
Tony Jeffree - 30 Oct 2007 13:42 GMT
>I hadn't been to the shop for a while,  but popped down on Saturday to
>look for a small Jacobs chuck on a 2MT shank,  to find that the Sert
>Precision shop in Farnham, near Slough is no more.

Does that make it a dead Sert then? <G>

Regards,
Tony
John Stevenson - 30 Oct 2007 14:18 GMT
>>I hadn't been to the shop for a while,  but popped down on Saturday to
>>look for a small Jacobs chuck on a 2MT shank,  to find that the Sert
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>Regards,
>Tony

Hardly surprising he's gone, poor bugger got fed up waiting for the
Herbert's who popped in every 5 years to spend about 3 quid and waste
his time for an hour.

.
Regards,

John Stevenson
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Jim Guthrie - 30 Oct 2007 17:30 GMT
>Hardly surprising he's gone, poor bugger got fed up waiting for the
>Herbert's who popped in every 5 years to spend about 3 quid and waste
>his time for an hour.

I spent a good bit more than three quid on several visits over three
years.  I only found out about him about three years ago. :-).  

But the proprietor seemed to welcome long chats with any person who
came into the shop and it was sometimes difficult to get out without
being impolite :-)

Jim.
DR_G - 30 Oct 2007 21:44 GMT
Coincidentally I went into a m/c tool supply type shop today. It is
BIG, old shop. I've been in before and it is an incredible place. Ther
are drawers upon drawers of brand new and used drills, millers, taps
dies, reamers, bits of machine tools, verniers, hand tools etc etc etc
I saw an old twist drill on a shelf that was about 6" diameter by abou
2' long. There are literally thousands upon thousands of boxed too
insets in dozens of drawers. There is absolutely no order to the place
and anyone could walk around putting things in their pockets and the gu
would never know.

The guy sits behind a counter near the door, and whatever you ask for
he seems to insist on suggesting something from his immediate vicinit
(invariably of crappy Chinese origin) even though you can find SKF
Presto or Dormer alternatives by just looking in random drawers.

I went in today to ask for a set of Dormer slot drills. He produced
manky box of 6 unbranded tools and said £70 please! I asked if I coul
by 6 individual Dormer branded drills from around the shop and he sai
'yes, but it will be far more expensive that way'. Cromwell tools u
the road do a set of 7 decent quality slot drills for £26. Brand new
The same with twist drills - I was looking for Dormer, 6-10mm in 0.
increments. He said that was a very odd range, and tried to sell me
craptastic set of 1-10mm in 0.5 increments. I left empty handed (fo
the third visit in a row).

A few facts:

1) I have never bought anything from him.

2) I have never seen anyone else in his shop.

3) His prices are as stupid as Myford prices.

4) Trust me - he cannot POSSIBLY know what he has in stock, and ha
confirmed this on three occasions by denying he has stuff which I hav
found for myself in random drawers.

5) When I do find it, he prices himself out of any possible deal.

6) I would estimate that at least 75% of his stock (the gigantic use
drill for example) is totally useless to anyone and will NEVER sell.

7) It is obvious that he buys job lots of stuff from businesse
probably like his own that have gone out of business. The stuff wil
have cost peanuts as a job lot.

8) I am wondering if me wearing a 'Boeing' work shirt and Jacke
influences his pricing structure.

It's a popular misconception that supporting local businesses is bette
for everyone because you get good advice and the convenience of having
local supplier. Well, I am certainly not paying massively over the odd
for the 'convenience' of having an overpriced, disorganised shambles o
a shop tell me that I have to pay for quality, especally when I can ge
decent stuff at a fraction of the cost locally from Cromwells up th
road (still local don't forget) or via the internet.

There are other used tool shops up here and invariably it is a simila
story wherever I have been. I sometimes get the feeling that if the
think they can make some cash, they try to screw you to make up for th
hopeless turnover they must have. Sorry guys, but I ain't having it! Ge
in to the 21st century, price things realistically and see how it goes
then start complaining if nobody buys anything!

Cheers,

Garth

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DR_
Steve Larner - 30 Oct 2007 21:49 GMT
He sold the contents of the shop over 4 weeks. I used to pop in mos
fridays on the way from work in Slough to home in Banbury.

He sold the shop off over about 5 - 6 weeks.

As some have said a sad loss, he ran the shop as a hobby as some hav
noted.

some interesing facts  he told me over the years.

He set up Mountfield the lawnmower and garden machinery people afte
the war.

He designed some lawnmowers for racing that his daughters raced.

He was a Director of Arsenell in the days of Charlie George.

He did quite a few long distance car rallies to Moscow etc

He had a host of good yarns if you had time to listen.

Along with John Stevenson he noticed the improvement in the engineerin
tools from China, He took great delight in showing how a Chinese ma
base of the same size had more holding power than an eclipse one.

Steve Larne

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