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Q&S Hacksaw available

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Bob Minchin - 02 May 2008 20:14 GMT
Anyone after a Quilters & Smith 6 hacksawing machine?

Almost certainly 3 phase.
Ex school machine available for a sensible donation to school funds.
To be collected from Southampton area
Photo on request.
bobdotminchinatntlworlddotcom

Regards

Bob
Christopher Tidy - 05 May 2008 01:14 GMT
> Anyone after a Quilters & Smith 6 hacksawing machine?
>
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> Photo on request.
> bobdotminchinatntlworlddotcom

I have the 8" Qualters & Smith hacksaw. They made two versions: the
"light duty saw" with serial numbers beginning "LDS" and the "heavy duty
saw" with serial numbers beginning "HDS". The following digit of the
serial number is the cutting capacity in inches. For example, my saw
carries the number HDS 8 2505.

The light duty saw is really nothing of the sort. It's still a big and
heavy machine. I believe the light duty saw had a cutting capacity of 6"
round stock, and the two heavy duty saws 8" and 10". There were also a
few minor variations over the years. My 8" saw weighs somewhere between
400 and 500 kg. Qualters & Smith are now owned by Birkett Cutmaster. As
of a few years ago, they still kept a few parts and manuals for the
hacksaws.

These are good machines. Much less troublesome than used bandsaws. Buy
one and you won't need to buy another.

Best wishes,

Chris
Bob Minchin - 05 May 2008 19:58 GMT
>> Anyone after a Quilters & Smith 6 hacksawing machine?
>>
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>
> Chris

Thanks for helping with the sales pitch!! LOL

Sorry there is no sales commission I can split with you, I'm just
passing on the info.

So far no one has put their hand up to say they want this saw.
Do you want a second one?

Bob
Christopher Tidy - 07 May 2008 11:21 GMT
> Thanks for helping with the sales pitch!! LOL
>
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> So far no one has put their hand up to say they want this saw.
> Do you want a second one?

I'm tempted, but I think I'm going to have to refuse. With some regret.
Money is a bit tight at the moment and I have no way of collecting it.
And as I have an 8" single phase machine, a 6" three phase machine is of
limited use.

The only problem these machines ever have is with the hydraulic relief
cylinder. Like I say, they last forever.

Hope someone claims it. You could try eBay if you don't get any interest
on this group. There is a some demand for them on eBay.

Is this one of the grey machines, or the later green "Bulldog"?

Best wishes,

Chris
Bob Minchin - 07 May 2008 18:39 GMT
>> Thanks for helping with the sales pitch!! LOL
>>
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>
> Chris

I know what you mean Chris, I'm getting to the point where I don't
need/can't fit in much more stuff.
I've posted a picture here
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bob.minchin/SAW%20Q&S%20No6IMG_1117.JPG
I think I have someone interested who is just starting on the nursery
slopes of machine collecting! LoL

Bob
Mark Rand - 07 May 2008 18:51 GMT
>I know what you mean Chris, I'm getting to the point where I don't
>need/can't fit in much more stuff.
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>
>Bob

Thank heavens for that. Now I can stop having to resist the temptation to
respond.

Has the vice screw handle got asbestos, botulism or something???

Mark Rand
RTFM
Bob Minchin - 07 May 2008 20:02 GMT
> Thank heavens for that. Now I can stop having to resist the temptation to
> respond.
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> Mark Rand
> RTFM

LOL!!
The machines are in a school which has had an attack of elfinsafety.
The lathes have had the power feed and screwcutting disabled. backgear
selectors screwed down etc.
The saw vice has been marked because it is at shin level. The power is
padlocked off.
It is being disposed of as if it jams they say it can throw the job
across the room. The replacement - a band saw just stalls and breaks the
blade which is safer according to the head of dept.

Regards

Bob
Christopher Tidy - 07 May 2008 22:12 GMT
>> Thank heavens for that. Now I can stop having to resist the temptation to
>> respond.
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> across the room. The replacement - a band saw just stalls and breaks the
> blade which is safer according to the head of dept.

I cannot see how a bandsaw is safer than a power hacksaw. Those vices
have deep jaws and grip very firmly. Usually the hacksaw blade will
break before anything jumps out of the vice. Some bandsaws are also
enormous and clumsy, but then I've never been a fan of bandsaws. And if
a hacksaw is dangerous because a piece of work can jump out of the vice,
surely a lathe is dangerous for the same reason?

The only hazard I can see with that machine is that it doesn't have the
finger guard at the rear end of the bowslide which was fitted to later
machines. This isn't a problem when the machine is mounted with its rear
against a wall, but it could pose a threat if the rear of the machine is
accessible. I wouldn't regard this as a major threat, but it's something
that it's worth being aware of.

That machine is the little brother to mine. Possibly a slightly earlier
model. Mine has a more angular base. That one is certainly 1960s or
earlier. It looks like it has been well looked after. Should provide
many years of trouble-free service in a home workshop.

If the new owner needs any help, feel free to pass on my details.

Best wishes,

Chris
Austin Shackles - 08 May 2008 13:00 GMT
>> Thank heavens for that. Now I can stop having to resist the temptation to
>> respond.
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>across the room. The replacement - a band saw just stalls and breaks the
>blade which is safer according to the head of dept.

I'd love it but the logistics and cost are against it.

it's one of those that sits there going "gronch,gronch,gronch" and chewing
through unfeasibly big lumps of steel, isn't it.

and IME, it's bits of blade that fly all over the shop when you get it
wrong, not the job itself.

Broken blades, suitably ground and fitted with handles, make vicious kinves
for piscatorial types.
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