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MaidsMoreton - 04 May 2008 22:36 GMT
Hello,
I am in the process of doing up a CVA lathe. I noticed while doing a test
turn (about 24 inches long) that the result was not regular. Having removed
the apron I found that the saddle could be twisted slightly and that it does
not rest correctly on the raised vee. I used a marker pen  to put lines on
the bedways then slid the saddle by hand to find high spots. It seems to me
that there is some wear to the saddle where it rests on the vee, especially
at the ends.Also, the next slideway (ie the flat one 2 inches from the vee)
is holding the vee slightly apart.
Has anyone encounted this or do you have any advice? I am considering
removing some metal under the saddle where it contacts the flat slideway. Is
this a good idea?
Many thanks.
A CVA appreciater,
Tim Leech - 04 May 2008 23:14 GMT
>Hello,
>I am in the process of doing up a CVA lathe. I noticed while doing a test
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Many thanks.
>A CVA appreciater,

Obviously not a good thing if the flat way is holding the Vee apart,
so it seems like the right thing in theory. How would you propose to
doit? Scraping? Big surface grinder? anything else might be a bit too
brutal.
Have you checked that the ball bearing 'gibs' are adjusted up?

Tim
Charles Ping - 05 May 2008 09:34 GMT
>>Hello,
>>I am in the process of doing up a CVA lathe. I noticed while doing a test
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>Tim

You may want to ask in the Monarch forum on Practical Machinist.
Since the CVA is basically a developed Monarch 10ee copy there is
probably some experience worth tapping in there.
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/index.php

Also on the Yahoo Monarch group there's a document detailing someones
rebuild that might be inspirational.
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Monarchlathe/?v=1&t=directory&ch=web&pub=g
roups&sec=dir&slk=17


Charles
MaidsMoreton - 06 May 2008 00:06 GMT
Thank you for the replies,
I have carefully attacked the underneath of the saddle with a file. The metal
seemed quite soft and I just kept removihg the high spots. I have not had it
running yet as I am doing some other work on it but it now feels rock solid
so I am hopeful. Thanks Tim for the encouragment and the advice on the
rollers, I will check them also.
I found some interesting stuff on Monarch lathes as suggested -especially
the guy with the "Wreck" who was totally rescraping all the ways but it
sounded a bit out of my league.
Lastly, for Mark, I have had my CVAs (a 1954 and a 1957) for about six years,
having bought them from a chap in the village.  It has taken me until now to
make a converter and give them a proper try.
I think I was watching the same lathe on Ebay -all the bids were removed back
to its £9.99 starting price and then it vanished - strange!
Once again many thanks, and I hope you all find this as I'm not totally sure
how to reply -my first time.

>>>Hello,
>>>I am in the process of doing up a CVA lathe. I noticed while doing a test
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Charles
Charles Ping - 06 May 2008 07:09 GMT
>Thank you for the replies,
>I have carefully attacked the underneath of the saddle with a file. The metal
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Once again many thanks, and I hope you all find this as I'm not totally sure
>how to reply -my first time.

Did you really use a file on the underside of the saddle?
Seems a tadge brutal.

Charles
mark@ems-fife.co.uk - 06 May 2008 08:13 GMT
> Thank you for the replies,
> I have carefully attacked the underneath of the saddle with a file. The metal
> seemed quite soft and I just kept removihg the high spots.

Sounds a bit savage,but everyone to their own.
I would have stripped the saddle,including removing the rollers at the
back,wipers etc.Wash down bed and underside of saddle.Lay the saddle
back on the shears at the chuck end,blue the bed at the tailstock end
and slide the saddle carefully along to the tailstock end.Lift the
saddle of and all the high spots should be marked.
It`s strange that the saddle is sitting on the flat and not touching
the vee as,even with wear it should all go down together and it would
be impossible for the vee to wear if the flat didn`t.
I`m wondering if it`s the original saddle or if the bed has been
reground,badly.
However what you`re doing won`t cause you problems from the point of
view that the metal has to come off to get the saddle back on the
vee.It`s just that most people do it with a scraper. :-)
The thing to watch is not to lose the squareness of the cross slide to
the spindle,and that shouldn`t happen if you don`t touch the vees,a
drop in height is not going to cause problems.
The other thing to check after you`re happy with the fitting of the
saddle is the alignment of the half nuts on the leadscrew.
Mark.
Tim Leech - 06 May 2008 08:56 GMT
>It`s strange that the saddle is sitting on the flat and not touching
>the vee as,even with wear it should all go down together and it would
>be impossible for the vee to wear if the flat didn`t.
>I`m wondering if it`s the original saddle or if the bed has been
>reground,badly.

There'll tend to me more wear on the rear face of the vee, I can
visualise that taking the brunt of any wear & especially so if the
flat way is well lubed & the vee is a bit dry. Is oil getting freely
to all intended points?

>However what you`re doing won`t cause you problems from the point of
>view that the metal has to come off to get the saddle back on the
>vee.It`s just that most people do it with a scraper. :-)

Think of a file as hundreds of tiny scrapers <g>

Tim
Richard - 08 May 2008 21:20 GMT
>I think I was watching the same lathe on Ebay -all the bids were removed back
>to its £9.99 starting price and then it vanished - strange!
>Once again many thanks, and I hope you all find this as I'm not totally sure
>how to reply -my first time.
I was watching it too, but rather wilted at the thought of trying to
explain yet another chunk of cast iron to SWMBO having only just last
week acquired an imacculate Smart & Brown 1024. I was a bit relieved
when it disappeared ;-}

Richard
mark@ems-fife.co.uk - 05 May 2008 16:22 GMT
> Hello,
> I am in the process of doing up a CVA lathe. I noticed while doing a test
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Many thanks.
> A CVA appreciater,

Is this the machine that was on Ebay recently but got pulled before
the end of the auction?
Mark.
 
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