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David - 15 May 2008 18:53 GMT
Hi all,

Towards the bottom of this page
http://homemetalshopclub.org/news/aug04/aug04.html is an article on grinding
chuch jaws. The method seems to make some sort of sense.

I have a Toledo TCT 15 Combimachine grinder (struggling to find any decent
images, but look here http://www.wowowo.co.uk/top_products/5292/5292-30.htm 
about a 1/3rd way down).

I need to somehow mount the grinder to my lathe in order to grind the jaws.
My lathe is a boxford cud (4.5" center height). If I were to stick the
grinder direct onto my compound slide (replace the toolpost), it will be
about center height, but as the case is plastic and no flats on it, I am not
sure how I would mount it.

Looking for ideas (or if anyone has done something similar, perhaps some
photos).

On another note, when I can get it mounted, no doubt I could do cylindrical
grinding... (I used to be a trained grinder before I joined the airforce). I
would prefer to dress the wheel prior to grinding. I have a diamond dresser,
any ideas how I would mount it in order to dress my wheel parallel?

Thanks.

Best regards,
Dave Colliver.
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dave sanderson - 15 May 2008 19:04 GMT
> Hi all,
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> Dave Colliver.http://www.AshfieldFOCUS.com
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If its a dremel clone, which from the piture it looks like then a
couple of big hose clamps
round the body securing a bar which can be clamped in the toolpost
would do it
As for dressing a wheel magnetic stand on lathe ways with dresser
clamper to post, move
carriage back and forward, use cross slide to alter DOC?

Dave
Richard Edwards - 15 May 2008 19:24 GMT
>> Hi all,
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>Dave

Some "Milliput" or something similar can be moulded onto your grinder
body to hold the bar steadier. Some clingfilm will stop it sticking.
All clamped as above.

--

Richard

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David - 15 May 2008 19:25 GMT
It is like a dremel, but much bigger. (I used to have a smaller one, but it
somehow disappeared. It did have flats on that one that I could have clamped
to).

Good idea re the hose clamps. Never thought of that. I was thinking of
somehow making like a bridge type of clamp, but I think that would have been
unstable. Hose clamps sounds like a much better idea and quicker to
implement as well.

Also, good idea re the mag mounting of the diamond dresser.

Best regards,
Dave Colliver.
http://www.AshfieldFOCUS.com
~~
http://www.FOCUSPortals.com - Local franchises available

>> Hi all,
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>
> Dave
Charles Lamont - 15 May 2008 21:43 GMT
> I have a Toledo TCT 15 Combimachine grinder (struggling to find any decent
> images, but look here http://www.wowowo.co.uk/top_products/5292/5292-30.htm 
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> about center height, but as the case is plastic and no flats on it, I am not
> sure how I would mount it.

Here is my die-grinder toolholder, which I made initially for the
purpose of de-bellmouthing some chuck jaws, its prolly a bit OTT, as is
my usual way. Light alloy was what I had to hand at the time:

    http://www.gateho.nildram.co.uk/images/iqc_grinder_holder.jpg

Incidentally, the chuck is a lot better for it.
Signature

Charles Lamont

David - 15 May 2008 21:48 GMT
Yes, I was thinking I may have had to make something like that, but I
thought for all I am doing, it probably is a bit OTT. I just wanted
something quick (and efficient) just so that I can get on with building my
engine...

Perhaps when I eventually turn my lathe into a pseudo cylindrical grinder, I
will go to a bit more length for something like this. However, it may be
worth me getting an air grinder.

Thanks.

Best regards,
Dave Colliver.
http://www.AshfieldFOCUS.com
~~
http://www.FOCUSPortals.com - Local franchises available

>> I have a Toledo TCT 15 Combimachine grinder (struggling to find any
>> decent images, but look here
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>
> Incidentally, the chuck is a lot better for it.
Peter Fairbrother - 16 May 2008 01:39 GMT
> Hi all,
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> Looking for ideas (or if anyone has done something similar, perhaps some
> photos).

Is that the Ferm combi-tool thingy?

If so then the plastic bit next to the chuck unscrews, and you can mount
the tool in something vertical with (I think, but check) an 18 x 1.5 mm
threaded hole.

The 18 x 1.5 mm thread seems common to many such tools, including
Dremels and most dremeloids.

-- Peter Fairbrother
David - 16 May 2008 07:53 GMT
Hi Peter,

Yes, it is like that ferm combi tool. (Mine has Toledo tct15 on it, which is
what I wrote, but it looks like they are the same). Yes, I did notice the
nose has a thread on it (didn't know what it was... thanks for clarifying).
I would have thought though that just supporting on the nose wouldn't be
enough as there is all the weight of the body the other side.

However, if I combine that idea with Charles' idea when I come to make a
more permanent mounting for it, it could be a good method for location.

Best regards,
Dave Colliver.
http://www.AshfieldFOCUS.com
~~
http://www.FOCUSPortals.com - Local franchises available

>> Hi all,
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> -- Peter Fairbrother
Peter Fairbrother - 16 May 2008 17:31 GMT
> Hi Peter,
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> However, if I combine that idea with Charles' idea when I come to make a
> more permanent mounting for it, it could be a good method for location.

The threaded nose is intended for mounting the drill in a vertical
stand, which it does quite well - but a horizontal mounting may well
need some extra support at the back end.

Also the m18 x 1.5 thread was originally chosen for a Dremel, which is
smaller and lighter.

-- Peter Fairbrother
David - 16 May 2008 21:11 GMT
Ah, right. I wasn't aware of that... Makes sense. For a horizontal mount, it
would not have been suitable.

Best regards,
Dave Colliver.
http://www.AshfieldFOCUS.com
~~
http://www.FOCUSPortals.com - Local franchises available

>> Hi Peter,
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>
> -- Peter Fairbrother
David - 16 May 2008 21:21 GMT
Well, I have gone and done it now. Ground them up.

I was surprised as to how much I had to take off to clean them up
thoroughly.

I marked each jaw with black marker then ground them. The first strikes were
at the rear of the jaw and I set my dial index. By the time I had cleaned
all 3 jaws, I had taken about 0.28mm off (radius).

No wonder my bars were never round and I also had probs with small bar
riding over the tool. (I know, a bad workman never blames his tools, I
wasn't blaming them, I just never took account of this problem...)

Anyhow, all done. Just have to do it again on my other lathe when I have
that up and running.

I fastened my grinder to a bar with some hose (jubilee) clips. This bar I
mounted in my toolpost. I had problems with the grinder moving when I
switched it on initially. However, when it was stable, I was then able to
work with it. I think I will make a proper clamping arrangement for it.

Best regards,
Dave Colliver.
http://www.AshfieldFOCUS.com
~~
http://www.FOCUSPortals.com - Local franchises available

> Hi all,
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