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Model Forum / General / Models / October 2008Disposing of used coolant
I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's out. I had thought of trying to separate out the oil so that I only have a small volume to dispose of but can't think of anything off hand that I could use to do this (short of boiling off the water). Anyone care to share how they dispose of this or how to separate the oil from the water? Martin  Signaturemartin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com >I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need to >dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's out. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >from the water? >Martin Put it in an open container (I use a plastic 45 gallon water but, but anything open will do). Leave it, sheltered from the rain for a few months. Decant what's left and tell the council that it's used engine oil. If you are in a hurry, then rig up an aquarium pump and a airstone in the bottom of the container. The water will evaporate surprisingly fast and the anaerobic bacteria won't get too bad. Last lot was 12 gallons that took four months to get rid of in spring weather without additional assistance. Next lot will have a bleed off the air pump that keeps it fresh in the grinder's coolant tank. Mark Rand RTFM >I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need >to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > from the water? > Martin Pour it down the drain like eveyone else does. Ben > >I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need > >to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > - Show quoted text - By pure accident, I left a can of lager in the deep freeze( once) Very interesting way of making almost 100% alcohol. So why not freeze the cutting fluid and pour off the unfrozen oil as a small amount? Hint- do your alcohol separation- AFTER the cutting oil lark, please. Hic Norm >So why not freeze the cutting fluid ... Because it would stink out the freezer? Not sure that it would be any good for keeping edible substances after that...but if you are into drinking the "distillate" from frozen beer, then anything is possible <G> Regards, Tony >Very interesting way of making almost 100% alcohol. The unfortunate part of the technique is that it also concentrates the flavourings, colourings, other hydrocarbons, etc. etc. in with the alcohol, so while it is high in alcohol it is also very high in all the other things that conspire to fry your brain. So my guess is that it would be not so much "hic" as "sick"... Regards, Tony .Now Tony tells me. But I was in Villa Nova de Gaia which is rather like Gateshead to Newcastle and what I recall of the port process was that they were doing something similar to my suggestion with freezing. As there was sampling involved, I am still somewhat hazy of what happened later. I merely suggested all this in the interest of science being of an absinthian(Sp?) nature. Ah well? > ..Now Tony tells me. But I was in Villa Nova de Gaia which is rather > like Gateshead to Newcastle and what I recall of the port process was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ah The freezing technique is apparently in widespread use in Alaska, where freezing is cheap, and to a lesser extent in some other parts of the Northern US and Canada as well. However if you really want a killer headache, try putting scrumpy in a freezer. No, I didn't say that, -- Peter Fairbrother >...and what I recall of the port process was >that they were doing something similar to my suggestion with freezing. Er...not even close...Port is a wine, fermented in the usual way, that is then fortified by adding "grape spirit" or sometimes brandy - around 70% alcohol distileld from fermented grapes in the conventional way (heat it up, pass the vapour through some kind of fractionating column, select the fraction that you want to keep). If the distiller knows his job, the fraction that is retained is pretty much pure Ethanol. Regards, Tony >> Very interesting way of making almost 100% alcohol. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the other things that conspire to fry your brain. So my guess is that > it would be not so much "hic" as "sick"... Indeed, but - you get the same amount of flavourings, colourings, other hydrocarbons, etc. etc. if you drink it straight. >>> Very interesting way of making almost 100% alcohol. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Indeed, but - you get the same amount of flavourings, colourings, other > hydrocarbons, etc. etc. if you drink it straight. Apropos nothing much, I'm a single malt Scotch man, blended malt if ever I can afford it. Lived in Ireland for a bit, and appreciate the poteen as well, some of which is hoarded and matured and lovely, but ... There is a tale that the Irish are, well to put it bluntly, thick (or perhaps stoned) because of the peat smoke from the open fires. This may apply to a lesser extent to the Scots as well (I am a Scot). However, the magic smoke from the peat, when distilled into fine Scotch whisky, seems to have a slightly different effect - the inexperienced may want to fight, but the experienced grow. Or glow. I have wondered whether this might be why Ireland is called the land of ire (anger), but I don't know the chemistry and don't get me talking about salads, the opioids in them, and the English rich -- Peter Fairbrother .. Just been watching a repeat( oh yes) of Have I got News For You on Dave and John Prescott's reports on Hydrocardigans. Another case of pulling the wool over the rest of us? On 25 Sep, 21:54, ravensworth2674 <nor...@n-atkinson.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: > .. > Just been watching a repeat( oh yes) of Have I got News For You on > Dave and John Prescott's reports on Hydrocardigans. > Another case of pulling the wool over the rest of us? Oddly, Tony you missed the pint -point. It was found that leaving port in freezing conditions in Sweden improved the stuff. Well, that was what the Portugeyers claimed. Frankly, I cannot imagine how any booze would be left unconsumed in Sweden. Again, they bring the booze down the Douro in boats and the boatmen are allowed to drink as much as they wish but!!!!! The quantity at the end ie in Villa Nova de whatsit is exactly the same as when they started! Funny, eh? So onto sherry- the unfortified stuff. Oh, yes- it is still sold. I am a Spanish Don and I have escrituras- but I am getting better slowly! I also live in a place which was once occupied by a one eyed deaf Arab who abducted a local Spanish maiden and they lived quite happily on a sea cliff until it snowed.But that is another story! Surprisingly, they are now growing grapes again quite near to where Lord Nelson bought a villa after he lost an arm and an eye in the Battle of the Nile. The purchase was on the proceeds of his holiday insurance claim.And apparently when the Brits buried him he was still pickled. Life in Peninsular is never quite what the Brits with their Kiss Me Quick hats and furry plastic donkeys under their tatooed arms imagine. Buenos noches >Oddly, Tony you missed the pint -point. >It was found that leaving port in freezing conditions in Sweden >improved the stuff. Not surprising, as that point was not in your message, either to get or to miss. If you want someone to "get" something in a message it often helps to write it down, I find, rather than trusting their psychic ability. Perhaps if you wrote just a little more obscurely we could recognize it was just random scribbling and not try to make sense of your posts at all... Regards, Tony > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:44:32 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674 > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Regards, > Tony Don't be a spoil sport Tony, how else could we go from getting rid of 4 gallons of smelly coolant to "drinking frozen stuff". Such mad adventures are rare in today's boring H&S PC world - thankfully. Regards Keith .To be boring, the first cup of coffee should have suggested one possible answer. In all probability it came from something called AFD or Accelerated freeze drying. Hence the oblique references to Alaska and Sweden. I avoided reference to Antarctica as we all know that it is the driest desert in the World. We do, don't we? Oh, well never mind. So, I know that oil and water do not mix. I hoped that it was all so patently obviously that a good romp could be had by all Ah, well? >> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:44:32 -0700 (PDT), ravensworth2674 >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >4 gallons of smelly coolant to "drinking frozen stuff". Such mad >adventures are rare in today's boring H&S PC world - thankfully. Its a fair point <G> Regards, Tony >>I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need >>to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Pour it down the drain like eveyone else does. I have an infinite capacity ash tray in the van for such jobs. Park in the Town Hall car park on a cold, dark, wet, winter's night. If they won't take a few 25l drums of what is obviously domestic waste produced in my workshop then the buggers can do it the hard way. Regards, David P. >>>I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need >>>to dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >David P. On a very serious note:- fines for businesses polluting waterways with oil run at £25,000 per event DAMHIKT! (The oil didn't get as far as the cooling ponds, but got far too close for comfort) Mark Rand RTFM Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings and dispose of it bagged at your local skips. >Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings >and dispose of it bagged at your local skips. Cat litter would do the trick. Regards, Tony >>Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings >>and dispose of it bagged at your local skips. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Regards, > Tony I'll have a play and see how much a bag of Tesco's el-cheapo cat litter absorbs. Thanks for the suggestion. Martin Signaturemartin<dot here>whybrow<at here>ntlworld<dot here>com > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501 > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Regards, > Tony But make sure the cat litter is unused. >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501 >> >> <brian.oldf...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> Perhaps its possible to absorb it into something like wood shavings >>> and dispose of it bagged at your local skips. >> Cat litter would do the trick. >> >> Regards, >> Tony > > But make sure the cat litter is unused. Why so? Does catpiss and old coolant somehow form perhaps an especially dangerous, explosive or toxic mixture, more so than the sum of its already-noxious parts? If so, how do we make the extra dangerous stuff?? We want to know. -- Peter Fairbrother >>> Cat litter would do the trick. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >We want to know. Taking the piss by any chance? Regards, Tony > >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501 > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > -- Peter Fairbrother Number one or even number two mixed with stale coolant is going to be a pretty nasty combination either way. > >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT), 1501 > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > -- Peter Fairbrother It's probably more toxic if the cat litter contains some number 2s as well. >> > But make sure the cat litter is unused. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >It's probably more toxic if the cat litter contains some number 2s as >well. Crap. Regards, Tony >I have about 4 gallons of old coolant (soluble oil and water) that I need to >dispose of; the local council tip only accepts used motor oil so that's out. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >from the water? >Martin My lathe manages to dispose of it all by itself, damned if I know where though - it doesn't, for example, sit in a puddle of the stuff. 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