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Austin Shackles - 06 Nov 2008 21:49 GMT

Anyone know a good (=cheap) place to get a 240V single phase alternator?

mate is after one for a Lister TR2 twin cyl generator, direct drive,
10-13KVA

can't see any on ebay at the moment.

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mark - 06 Nov 2008 22:20 GMT

On 6 Nov, 21:49, Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESU...@ddol-
las.net> wrote:

> Anyone know a good (=cheap) place to get a 240V single phase alternator?
>
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> >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them.
> a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!

this any good

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-KVA-generator-3-Phase_W0QQitemZ180304097535QQcmdZViewIt
em?hash=item180304097535&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%
3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

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Andrew Mawson - 06 Nov 2008 22:30 GMT

> Anyone know a good (=cheap) place to get a 240V single phase alternator?
>
> mate is after one for a Lister TR2 twin cyl generator, direct drive,
> 10-13KVA
>
> can't see any on ebay at the moment.

3 phase beefy motor can be configured as a generator using a 'delta'
configuaration of capacitors across the phases. Not sure if a single
phase motor can do the same, but you could use one phase of a three
phase machine perhaps?

AWEM

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Austin Shackles - 08 Nov 2008 13:53 GMT

>Anyone know a good (=cheap) place to get a 240V single phase alternator?
>
>mate is after one for a Lister TR2 twin cyl generator, direct drive,
>10-13KVA
>
>can't see any on ebay at the moment.

good suggestions but not the right answer. He's got the genset, a Lister
start-o-matic, but the alternator is shagged. Mind, dunno in what way:
might be better bet to get the existing one rewound...

but anyway, he's looking for a direct replacement.

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Richard Edwards - 09 Nov 2008 07:12 GMT

>>Anyone know a good (=cheap) place to get a 240V single phase alternator?
>>
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>
>but anywathat willy, he's looking for a direct replacement.

But is the alternator "shagged"? There is a lot in the control box
that will stop generation. Somewhere I have the service and circuit
info for a Start-o-matic if it is of any use.

Richard

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Austin Shackles - 10 Nov 2008 21:40 GMT

>>>Anyone know a good (=cheap) place to get a 240V single phase alternator?
>>>
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>that will stop generation. Somewhere I have the service and circuit
>info for a Start-o-matic if it is of any use.

dunno, and yes it would. I've not tested it myself, dunno if he has or has
had it tested by anyone who knows. Nor do I know if there are visible signs
of shaggedness. I shall enquire, meantime, if you can find the info, it'll
be very handy - I've never had to investigate a start-o-matic before.

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mark@ems-fife.co.uk - 12 Nov 2008 09:24 GMT

> >But is the alternator "shagged"? There is a lot in the control box
> >that will stop generation. Somewhere I have the service and circuit
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of shaggedness. I shall enquire, meantime, if you can find the info, it'll
> be very handy - I've never had to investigate a start-o-matic before.

The auto start/charge relay can be a pain to set up on
these,especially if someone has been busy bending contacts about.
Seem to remember the last one I done I replaced it for quickness (old
uncle in the middle of nowhere with no lights).
Think it cost about £120 twenty years back.

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Peter A Forbes - 12 Nov 2008 12:04 GMT

>dunno, and yes it would. I've not tested it myself, dunno if he has or has
>had it tested by anyone who knows. Nor do I know if there are visible signs
>of shaggedness. I shall enquire, meantime, if you can find the info, it'll
>be very handy - I've never had to investigate a start-o-matic before.

There's a Start-O-Matic manual on our websites at:

http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/ListerData/SOMMenu1.htm

or at:

http://www.stationary-engine.co.uk/ListerData/SOMMenu1.htm

Peter
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Austin Shackles - 24 Nov 2008 13:03 GMT

>>dunno, and yes it would. I've not tested it myself, dunno if he has or has
>>had it tested by anyone who knows. Nor do I know if there are visible signs
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>
>Peter

More info: this one is the kind with a separate starter motor, not the sort
with start windings in the alternator. The alternator is burnt black inside
so it seems pretty likely the windings are shot.

However, he's located a FOAF who's involved in fettling alternators.

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Richard Edwards - 25 Nov 2008 19:10 GMT

>>>dunno, and yes it would. I've not tested it myself, dunno if he has or has
>>>had it tested by anyone who knows. Nor do I know if there are visible signs
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>More info: this one is the kind with a separate starter motor, not the sort
>with start windings in the alternator.

Far too modern for me then!

>The alternator is burnt black inside
>so it seems pretty likely the windings are shot.

Black is good! Or so I am told!

>However, he's located a FOAF who's involved in fettling alternators.

Sorry, but whats a FOAF? Ah maybe Friend of a Friend?
Too many Vodkas Run out of Scotch!

Richard

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