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Elliott Milmor or Omnimil1250 manual?

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Tim L - 18 Feb 2009 20:27 GMT
We got the turret/overarm/head onto my machine this afternoon, I'd cut
the cable when separating the machine for loading so I was playing
about with the controls with no power, found that I'd brought down the
quill & it wouldn't return.
For one reason or another (I've rewired it & tried it under power now)
there seems to be some sort of conflict of interest within the head.
I've no idea whether it's an existing fault or something that's been
brought on by my actions, but one way or another it needs sorting, I'm
going to have to take the thing apart.
Does anyone reading this have any experience of these heads, or access
to a manual which covers the head, or know someone who has one which
can be bought, begged, stolen, copied etc?
The head seems to be the same as used on some models of the Milmor,
which seems to be more common than the Omnimil (as at
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ELLIOTT-MILMOR-MILLING-MACHINE-BRIDGEPORT-TYPE-MILLER_W0QQ
itemZ260359382299

)

Note for Martin:-
email me your snail mail address ( my email works if you remove the
obvious).
I've established that the knee is quite stiff, I'll have to check the
gib adjustments, & the knee rapid does work if you pull hard enough on
the handle. Seriously hard, something not as it should be.

TIA

Tim
Richard Edwards - 18 Feb 2009 20:50 GMT
>We got the turret/overarm/head onto my machine this afternoon, I'd cut
>the cable when separating the machine for loading so I was playing
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>brought on by my actions, but one way or another it needs sorting, I'm
>going to have to take the thing apart.

Are you sure that you have not inadvertently engaged the quill auto
feed?  Worked a colleagues TOS once and spent 10 minutes pulling and
pressing before I got it disengaged.

Richard
Tim L - 18 Feb 2009 21:56 GMT
>>We got the turret/overarm/head onto my machine this afternoon, I'd cut
>>the cable when separating the machine for loading so I was playing
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Richard

I'm not *sure*, but get the feeling there's more to it than that. A
book of words & pictures giving some indication of what's supposed to
happen would be a great help.

Cheers
Tim
Tim L - 19 Feb 2009 19:23 GMT
>>We got the turret/overarm/head onto my machine this afternoon, I'd cut
>>the cable when separating the machine for loading so I was playing
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>feed?  Worked a colleagues TOS once and spent 10 minutes pulling and
>pressing before I got it disengaged.

Mystery/problem solved.

We had inverted the head as part of the process of getting the top
assembly back into place. The drawbar was supplied loose from the
machine, but would have fallen out anyway at this stage. There is a
washer which sits under the drawbar nut, inside the splined tube which
drives the backgear. It had remained in place when the drawbar was
removed. At some stage in the moving process this washer became
dislodged and jammed between the top of the quill and the backgear
drive tube which it was supposed to sit inside, thereby messing up the
operation of the backgear and preventing the return of the quill.

Luckily it could be resolved by putting the head on its side, removing
the motor and belt housing, then access to the backgearing was fairly
straightforward without having to delve further into the mysteries of
the auto quill feed or disturbing the quill bearings etc.

I'd still very much like to find a manual for the head, though.

Tim
 
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