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Charles - 18 Nov 2009 13:31 GMT
Suggestions time.

I'm after a metal bodied round connector to handle 12 volts. Needs to
be 4-6 poles and ideally have a panel mounted socket with the flying
lead mounted plug having a screwed ring to fix the connection.
Looking around the workshop a 6 pole version of what Heidenhain use to
connect scales would be about right but I can't find any note of what
series those connectors are from. The application is to connect
headlamp wiring on a prewar car in such a way that the lights and
wings can be removed with ease.

The usual sources draw a blank. The nearest suggestion has been an XLR
connector but they do look rather modern for this application.

Suggestions please

ta

Charles
Peter A Forbes - 18 Nov 2009 13:37 GMT
>Suggestions time.
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>Charles

LPA-Niphan have a range of connectors that go back to WWII in metal bodies and
rings, but you'd probably struggle to get the number of poles you want in the
smaller sizes.

Cannon do a larger version of the XLR, but that is bulky, and the likes of
Amphenol etc also do such stuff but are expensive in small numbers.

I'll have a poke around, but the old Army Plessey Mk4 connectors are the only
things that come to mind.
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mark - 18 Nov 2009 14:31 GMT
> Suggestions time.
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> Charles

if you don't mind it being a bit bulky a towing hitch electrical
connector I think has 7 poles.

there are various ones out there ..some of them latch some screw on.

all the best.markj
Cliff Ray - 18 Nov 2009 15:52 GMT
>> Suggestions time.
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> all the best.markj

How about using 2x 3 pole plugs? I have a pile of audio XLR connectors
buried somewhere that I can dig out. They are a spring lock fit, but
designed to be yanked about so will be fine inside a car.
Cliff Ray - 18 Nov 2009 15:57 GMT
>>> Suggestions time.
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> buried somewhere that I can dig out. They are a spring lock fit, but
> designed to be yanked about so will be fine inside a car.

Or depending on what you want to connect, you could use one and cable
the shell as earth?
Tony Jeffree - 18 Nov 2009 16:41 GMT
>How about using 2x 3 pole plugs? I have a pile of audio XLR connectors
>buried somewhere that I can dig out. They are a spring lock fit, but
>designed to be yanked about so will be fine inside a car.

There are 6-pin XLR connectors too.

Regards,
Tomu
Charles - 18 Nov 2009 18:09 GMT
> >How about using 2x 3 pole plugs? I have a pile of audio XLR connectors
> >buried somewhere that I can dig out. They are a spring lock fit, but
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> Regards,
> Tomu

The Plessey Mk4  (now know as LMF) looks the best bet so far - either
brass or ali versions would suit. Thanks for the suggestion Peter

Any idea where to get a couple of the things? The sites that I've
found have a form marked RFQ which makes me think that their sales
ambitions aren't in tune with my buying needs

Thanks

Charles
Peter A Forbes - 18 Nov 2009 23:07 GMT
>The Plessey Mk4  (now know as LMF) looks the best bet so far - either
>brass or ali versions would suit. Thanks for the suggestion Peter
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>Charles

They are still used on military stuff, look for the dealers on ebay, Clansman
radios  and all that.

Mike Giacomelli has/had an ebay shop with some in (I was at Mullards as an
apprentice with his father)

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/mtg803&ssPageName=STRK:MEFSX:SELLERID

There also other places such as Green Machine Surplus etc. Do a search for
'CVRT' and you'll get the Land Rover gear as well.

Peter

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Harry Bloomfield - 18 Nov 2009 18:35 GMT
mark brought next idea :
> if you don't mind it being a bit bulky a towing hitch electrical
> connector I think has 7 poles.
>
> there are various ones out there ..some of them latch some screw on.

And they have the current carying capacity you need. The more modern
version, which replaces the twin 12N and 12S sockets, is the 13pin plug
and socket.

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Charles - 18 Nov 2009 19:01 GMT
> mark brought next idea :
> > if you don't mind it being a bit bulky a towing hitch electrical
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>         Harry (M1BYT) (L)
> http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

A modern trailer socket on either side of the radiator would look
somewhat incongrous on a prewar car.

The rubber ones are ok except for the fact that they're inline rather
than having a panel mount socket.

Charles
Russell - 18 Nov 2009 18:23 GMT
> Suggestions time.
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> Charles

How about these - no screw ring though.

http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/44

Russell
puffernutter - 18 Nov 2009 18:59 GMT
For my trains I use these connectors from Maplins, they carry 12v quite
happily.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=997

Cheers

Peter

> Suggestions time.
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> Charles

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Harry Bloomfield - 18 Nov 2009 22:06 GMT
puffernutter explained on 18/11/2009 :
> For my trains I use these connectors from Maplins, they carry 12v quite
> happily.
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>> Charles

Fine for low current 12v, but this is for headlamps which could pull
quite few amps.

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Charles - 18 Nov 2009 22:39 GMT
On Nov 18, 10:06 pm, Harry Bloomfield
<harry.m1...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> puffernutter explained on 18/11/2009 :
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Not a problem on my car.
36 watt headlamp bulbs, 5 watt sidelight

Charles
John - 19 Nov 2009 12:51 GMT
> Not a problem on my car.
> 36 watt headlamp bulbs, 5 watt sidelight
>
> Charles

That's stil 6A if you feed both filaments through the same pin. Then
there's the earth current. That's the sum of all the bulbs, assuming
you use a wired return of course. Have a look at the plugs used to
wire the spotlights on the works rally Minis. I suspect you will need
more than one though.

John
penfold - 19 Nov 2009 23:04 GMT
If you have a friend in the US who will receive and resend parcels,
These chaps are very cheap for Amphenol Mil-C-5015 and other heavy
duty connectors. Unfortunately, they charge a huge amount for
international postage, so getting it sent direct isn't worthwhile.

http://www.galco.com/scripts/cgiip.exe/wa/wcat/webpromox.htm?promo=320AMPHXREF&g
clid=COCdgI-VmJ4CFZ1h4wodGTDLmA#ctop

Peter A Forbes - 20 Nov 2009 08:03 GMT
>If you have a friend in the US who will receive and resend parcels,
>These chaps are very cheap for Amphenol Mil-C-5015 and other heavy
>duty connectors. Unfortunately, they charge a huge amount for
>international postage, so getting it sent direct isn't worthwhile.
>
>http://www.galco.com/scripts/cgiip.exe/wa/wcat/webpromox.htm?promo=320AMPHXREF&g
clid=COCdgI-VmJ4CFZ1h4wodGTDLmA#ctop

Servo & Electronic Sales keep a lot of Amphenol on the shelf, and they are quite
reasonable on pricing, based in Lydd. We buy 97 series from them.

Peter
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Mike - 25 Nov 2009 11:17 GMT
>>> Suggestions time.
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>Fine for low current 12v, but this is for headlamps which could pull
>quite few amps.

It's not a problem.  Decent XLR's can reliably cope with low voltage
high current connections.

http://www.neutrik.com/uk/en/audio/210_622198544/NC3FXX_detailtechnical.aspx?tit
le=NC3FXX


"Rated current per contact 16 A"

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SB11 - 19 Nov 2009 07:45 GMT
> Suggestions time.
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> Charles

Have a browse around the RS website rswww.com.  Search for connectors,
multipole circular and you will find a huge choice. Lots of Mil Spec, Olive
Drab options. Not the cheapest but available in small quantities.

Stuart
 
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