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Bob Minchin - 26 Feb 2010 17:49 GMT
I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've
lost the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to
time. They will still let me go in and use it but I have to call in
favours and so would rather save those for the bigger jobs.

Most of the time I possibly only need 12" capacity and fold up to 16swg
steel/14swg aluminium alloy.
I'm assuming the offerings from Clarke/Sealey and RDG are made from high
tensile licorice(copyright 2010 Stevenson)and best avoided.
I have a lathe, mill and Mig welder so should be able to make something.

Has anyone any recommendations for plans/books on the subject?

Is the Dave Gingery book any good?

All inputs welcome.

TIA

Bob
mark - 26 Feb 2010 18:00 GMT
On 26 Feb, 17:49, Bob Minchin <bob.minchinREM...@YOURHATntlworld.com>
wrote:
> I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've
> lost the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to
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> Bob

No plans ..but here is one i bought NEW a few years ago for £25

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/press1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/press2.jpg

from the pictures you should get some idea how its constructed and
works.

does evverything I ask of it .

all the best.markj
Bob Minchin - 26 Feb 2010 19:24 GMT
> On 26 Feb, 17:49, Bob Minchin<bob.minchinREM...@YOURHATntlworld.com>
> wrote:
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> all the best.markj

Thanks Mark,

It certainly looks solidly made with that bracing to the angle.

I assume there is a third length of angle behind the pivot plates to
form the lower fixed jaw.

Interested to note that there is no adjustment for metal thickness
(apart from the clamp). How well does it cope with thinner material? Do
you still get a tight fold?

Bob
mark - 26 Feb 2010 20:44 GMT
On 26 Feb, 19:24, Bob Minchin <bob.minchinREM...@YOURHATntlworld.com>
wrote:
> > On 26 Feb, 17:49, Bob Minchin<bob.minchinREM...@YOURHATntlworld.com>
> > wrote:
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there is 1-5 mm radius on most folds

there is nothing stopping you putting an extra adjustble nose peice on
it

i prefer the radius rather than a razor sharp 90 degree bend

it will bend 1/8 thick x 1 wide bar ok as well....any wider and you
would need two people on it

thinner stuff is great as well

yep 3rd angle  behind ..

all the best.markj
David Littlewood - 26 Feb 2010 18:12 GMT
>I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've
>lost the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to
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>All inputs welcome.

Would one of these suit?

http://www.warco.co.uk/Metal-Forming-Folders-72B4216ECE.aspx

The only one which is specced to do 12" x 16 swg is, strangely, the
mini-bender, but the others might suit. Warco have a pretty good
reputation.

David
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Bob Minchin - 26 Feb 2010 20:00 GMT
>> I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've
>> lost the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to
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> David
Thanks David,
Yes Warco are a class above the Clarkes of this world. Maybe I'll seek
them out at a show to have a look.
The Mini Bender is the only one I have seen using that principle.
I'm a little concerned that the way the blade is operated means that it
does cannot move vertically and that might make it difficult to get the
fold exactly where it is wanted.
I've used a blade and vee block type before fitted to a fly press and
even with the extra visibility that offers it is still quite ticklish to
get it right (for me anyway!)

Cheers

Bob
David Littlewood - 27 Feb 2010 00:15 GMT
>> Would one of these suit?
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>even with the extra visibility that offers it is still quite ticklish
>to get it right (for me anyway!)

I must say I like the look of the Magnum bender - though it only does 6"
wide, it works up to 3mm steel. Saw a review of it somewhere in the last
year or two which was extremely positive. I would have bought one, but I
don't really do enough metal bending to justify it.

David
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Dirk - 26 Feb 2010 18:39 GMT
Op 26-2-2010, heeft Bob Minchin verondersteld :
> I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've lost
> the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to time. They
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>
> Bob

The Gingery book has plans for a 15 - 30" brake that can do ordinaire
ducting and seaming work (which is explained also). Very detailed.
Looks sturdy, using standard channels and angles, quick release clamps
on top. Have not built it yet as my home fumbled one still works.
Dirk
campingstoveman - 26 Feb 2010 19:35 GMT
Bob,

I bought a Clarke bender and have no reason not to knock it, it does all I
want at a cost not worth making one.

Martin P

>I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've lost
>the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to time. They
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> Bob
Bob Minchin - 26 Feb 2010 20:14 GMT
> Bob,
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>> Bob

Hi Martin,
The only Clarke one I can find is only specified to 22swg online (22mm
in the catalogue!!)
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cmf24-sheet-metal-folder
Is this the one you have? model no CMF24B.

Bob
campingstoveman - 26 Feb 2010 21:04 GMT
yes it is but with care will do 1 mm
>> Bob,
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> Bob
Alan Dawes - 26 Feb 2010 20:58 GMT
> I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've
> lost the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to
> time. They will still let me go in and use it but I have to call in
> favours and so would rather save those for the bigger jobs.

> Most of the time I possibly only need 12" capacity and fold up to 16swg
> steel/14swg aluminium alloy.
> I'm assuming the offerings from Clarke/Sealey and RDG are made from high
> tensile licorice(copyright 2010 Stevenson)and best avoided.
> I have a lathe, mill and Mig welder so should be able to make something.

> Has anyone any recommendations for plans/books on the subject?

> Is the Dave Gingery book any good?

> All inputs welcome.

MachineMart do a simple up to 600mm (24") wide / 22swg metal folder for
£46.98 incl VAT which fits into a bench vice see:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cmf24-sheet-metal-folder

It wouldn't be too difficult to make something similar.

According to their catalogue, Warco do a vice mounted "mini Bender" which
will take up to 12" x 22 swg mild steel it's part no.7073. However their
website says up to 16swg see
http://www.warco.co.uk/Mini-Bender-E8F46859EC.aspx

For smaller widths they also do cheap "vice brakes" which are held by
strong magnets between the jaws of a chuck part no.s 8986.4 .5 and .6. See
http://www.warco.co.uk/finder.aspx and search for vice brake in the
product finder box.

Alan

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Kevin(Bluey) - 27 Feb 2010 11:04 GMT
> I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've
> lost the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to
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> Bob

Bob ,
follow this link to the Aussie woodwork forums , it has a metal working
section and drawings for a panbrake folder with adjustable fingers.

Kev

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"I'm not young enough to know everything."

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Bob Minchin - 27 Feb 2010 17:56 GMT
>> I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've
>> lost the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to
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>
> Kev

Thanks Kev,

I think I passed the intelligence test and found the thread here
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/making-pan-brake-folder-fingers-home-45792/

Absolutely first class and will be easy to adapt to my needs.

Bob
Kevin(Bluey) - 28 Feb 2010 09:32 GMT
>>> I could do with a small sheet metal folder as since leaving work I've
>>> lost the ability to pop into their workshop and use one from time to
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>
> Bob

Bob
My apologies for not including the link ,must have had an "old timers
attack."
Quite a few have built it and report that it's a very sturdy and useful
piece of kit .

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"I'm not young enough to know everything."

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