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Bill - 20 Jul 2010 20:19 GMT
A member in our club as made a 0-6-0 tack loco and is going to paint it blue
with
a Number 1 on and a Thomas face he has made. Now another member as told him
that he could be heading for trouble as some clubs have been told you can
not do
this because of copyright. Can anyone help on this so I can inform the
member.
Mark Rand - 20 Jul 2010 22:10 GMT
>A member in our club as made a 0-6-0 tack loco and is going to paint it blue
>with
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>this because of copyright. Can anyone help on this so I can inform the
>member.

Tricky one that, I've seen two separate 12"/1ft examples and I very much doubt
that they paid anything to the estate of Reverend Awdry.

OTOH, it's a bit tacky!

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Alan Dawes - 21 Jul 2010 12:01 GMT
> >A member in our club as made a 0-6-0 tack loco and is going to paint it
> >blue with a Number 1 on and a Thomas face he has made. Now another
> >member as told him that he could be heading for trouble as some clubs
> >have been told you can not do this because of copyright. Can anyone
> >help on this so I can inform the member.

> Tricky one that, I've seen two separate 12"/1ft examples and I very much
> doubt that they paid anything to the estate of Reverend Awdry.

Why would they pay them - the Audry family sold off all the rights to
Thomas the Tank Engine to the highest bidder years ago? I think that in
the UK it is a company called Gullane (Thomas) Ltd that hold the licenses.

Alan

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steamer - 21 Jul 2010 00:13 GMT
    --IMNSHO and speaking strictly as a 'colonist' if that's the state
of affairs across the pond it's time for another revolution...

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Steve R. - 21 Jul 2010 03:10 GMT
> --IMNSHO and speaking strictly as a 'colonist' if that's the state
> of affairs across the pond it's time for another revolution...

You need to look closer to home Ed. Just try to open an independent
motorcycle repair shop with the word "Hog" in the name.  Haley Davidson
lawyers will be on you're case in no time!

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Tony Jeffree - 21 Jul 2010 12:35 GMT
>You need to look closer to home Ed. Just try to open an independent
>motorcycle repair shop with the word "Hog" in the name.  Haley Davidson
>lawyers will be on you're case in no time!

...and not to mention the attempts Budweisser made to prevent the
original Czech brewery (that makes decent beer, not pi$$) from using
their own name.

And of course the fact that mysteriously, the number of years that
copyright lasts in the USA seems to increase at any time that the
copyright on M. Mouse gets anywhere near timing out...

To name but a couple of examples.

Regards,
Tony
steamer - 21 Jul 2010 18:34 GMT
    --Agreed we're screwed. Suggest you lot nip it in the bud! :-)

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Tony Jeffree - 21 Jul 2010 22:50 GMT
>--Agreed we're screwed. Suggest you lot nip it in the bud! :-)

Fair point, but the rot has set in already...

Regards,
Tony
Alan Dawes - 22 Jul 2010 10:42 GMT
> >--Agreed we're screwed. Suggest you lot nip it in the bud! :-)

> Fair point, but the rot has set in already...

If only the copyrignt laws hadn't been bastardised by big business. The
original "Queen Anne's Statute" of 1709 was "An Act for the Encouragement
of Learning" by giving the copyright holder legal protection for 14 years.

Alan

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Alan Dawes - 21 Jul 2010 12:09 GMT
>     --IMNSHO and speaking strictly as a 'colonist' if that's the state
> of affairs across the pond it's time for another revolution...

Commercialism is world wide so it will be the same where ever you are in
the world, the Audrey family sold off the world wide rights to Thomas
years ago. It just depends on whether it is profitable, for the company
holding the license for your country, to actively seek out individuals and
organisations breaking their license.

Alan

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puffernutter - 21 Jul 2010 21:59 GMT
>>     --IMNSHO and speaking strictly as a 'colonist' if that's the state
>> of affairs across the pond it's time for another revolution...
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>
> Alan

If any railway uses a Thomas face in the UK, if I remember correctly
they have to pay 10% of ALL their takings (cafe, souvenirs, tickets
etc.) to the licence holder.  The only railway that is exempt is the
Tallylyn as the Rev Audrey used to work as a volunteer and they have a
letter giving them permission in perpetuity.

Cheers

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Mark Rand - 21 Jul 2010 22:44 GMT
>If any railway uses a Thomas face in the UK, if I remember correctly
>they have to pay 10% of ALL their takings (cafe, souvenirs, tickets
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>
>Peter

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